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Your picture was removed by an IP on the county list, with this note. Thought you should know. --Ebyabe talk - State of the Union ‖ 04:14, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up. Looks like s/he was right. Magic♪piano 13:59, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

Help finding a source

Hi Magicpiano,

In a couple of articles about José Pablo Moncayo, I have seen references to "Tello 1987".

I have not been able to find a publication by a Tello from 1987. Apparently, there is a biography by a Tello from a decade later (1997) but I have not been successful at verifying that reference either. Would you have some advice for me?

By the way, what I *actually* want to establish is whether Moncayo actually played at a theater named Teatro Orientación in 1936 or not.

Looks like you have some experience editing Wikipedia and doing this kind of research. Hope you can give me some tips or guidance.

Regards, ˜˜˜˜ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Roberto.jimeno (talkcontribs) 19:52, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

When you see short citations (like "Tello 1987"), you should look for a bibliography at the end of the article. If you look at the bottom of the article on José Pablo Moncayo, you will find the Tello source listed in the section headed "Selected Sources Consulted", including its title and ISBN. Magic♪piano 21:01, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

William Russell

I'm glad you messaged me about the GA review for William Russell. I'm still getting my feet wet at this level of involvement, and I thought my involvement was over with my review. I believe I have now backed up my review with a reclassification to "GA". I still don't see how to remove the GA nomination from the portal page, but I'm not going to lose sleep over that matter. I'll fix that as required. Bill McKenna (talk) 23:31, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

You need to follow the instructions for passing reviews at WP:GAREV. Magic♪piano 01:37, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Drafts

Just a quick note on the subject of Drafts.

I was just going through a few drafts I created over the last couple years. Last December I had created a draft for Draft:Ram Point when it was added to the NRHP. I didn't move it to the mainspace because I don't like creating articles based on just one or two refs. As I was going through the drafts today, I figured I might as well move it despite my reservations. To my surprise, one had already been created -- nearly the same article, the day after I created the draft. (I say "nearly the same" not to insinuate anything, of course -- just to distinguish from those cases when someone starts an article from scratch because the available draft is so poor or inadequate that it would just be scrapped rather than built upon).

Please click the box pointing to a draft when creating a new article :/ — Rhododendrites talk \\ 04:07, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

Map

Hello. I want to remake a map in my book American Colonies by Alan Taylor, which shows North American European settlements in 1700. It's a great map, as it shows actual settlement areas shaded, and not "claims" or "charters" (later states). I have very little experience in this, and I have seen you make good maps, so I wonder if you could aid? :) Have a good day!--Simen113 (talk) 07:15, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

Congratulations, it's a...
...Wikipedia Good Article!! Shearonink (talk) 08:03, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

The Anchorage

Why do you keep reverting my edits on this page... I am the original author and am making corrections... ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anchorage24 (talkcontribs) 14:11, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

Because, as I indicated in both the edit summaries and on your talk page, your edits were badly breaking the formatting of the page. When you do wholesale damage to the page, I'm not going to try to rescue your modifications. You need to learn how to integrate your changes into the existing page without breaking wikilinks and other formatting. You may find parts of this page useful in guiding your editing. See also Help:Editing and WP:MOS. Magic♪piano 14:35, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

Bot help

Dudemanfellabra tells me that you and TheCatalyst31 (ping link, so she knows I asked you as well) have been doing oversight for NationalRegisterBot. Do you have experience with bot programming, and if so, could you try to help with something? WP:BOTR#Copy_coordinates_from_lists_to_articles; I'll run it by WT:NRHP if someone thinks they can help, but I'm not bothering with a project discussion unless I know that someone is willing to try, since it would be annoying to have project approval and then find that nobody's interested in helping. Nyttend (talk) 02:06, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Replying here to keep the discussion in one place. While I'd be willing to help out some, I wouldn't be comfortable taking on all or most of a project like this; I learned Javascript pretty recently, and I'd rather not take on bot projects until I have more experience with using it for smaller stuff with a higher tolerance for mistakes. Also, since I'm sure this will come up in a BRFA if we find a volunteer and the project approves; how do we know there aren't any sites with correct coordinates in the article but incorrect coordinates in the list, rather than the other way around? If nobody's gone through the list but someone who just saw the article fixed the coordinates based on that, the bot would be overwriting good coordinates with bad ones. TheCatalyst31 ReactionCreation 04:51, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
I've carefully noted the items that I have not fixed (typically because no nomination is available), and those places I'll include in the list of items to ignore. Only places that I know I've checked are going to be submitted; the only ways we can have errors is if I've actively made a mistake, whether finding the wrong place or making a typo. Nyttend (talk) 12:32, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
I am (as of this writing) not particularly conversant in the MediaWiki API, and am limiting work on improving some aspects of NationalRegisterBot until I've had a chance to study it further. I do not feel comfortable contributing to this effort at this time, although there is a good idea at its center. A bot run that can flag discrepant coordinates (between list, article, NRIS (if applicable) and Wikidata (if applicable)) is a good idea; deciding how to resolve the discrepancies is a more nuanced problem. The basic data gather might be doable within the NationalRegisterBot framework (for all lists), or within the framework of Dudeman's NRHPstats script (for a single list). Magic♪piano 13:16, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
Understood, and thanks for considering it. However, merely flagging them would be useless — the large majority of Virginia NR sites have discrepancies, because I've modified the large majority of coords. Most weren't exactly errors (e.g. off by one second or one-half second of latitude or longitude), but of course a bot can't distinguish between a slight improvement and a big fix. What's needed is a bot to replace the old with the new, except for pages with not-verified coords or pages with multiple list coords, e.g. multi-county sites. Nyttend (talk) 15:36, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Foster Furcolo

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Foster Furcolo you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Sturmvogel 66 -- Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 18:21, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the hint

I guess the best way to post a big revision is to do it all at once, with all the formatting correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bfant (talkcontribs) 18:53, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Harwich split

I saw your edit to the progress table - is there any reason those four articles shouldn't just be merged back into the main Barnstable County list? Splitting four articles from a list of 117 seems fairly pointless, especially since Harwich isn't even close to having the second-most listings in the county. TheCatalyst31 ReactionCreation 01:14, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

Well, I think it's a bit extreme. But I also wanted to use it as an opportunity to test procedures for updating NationalRegisterBot (whose code has a structure mimicking the file structure of listings, which needs to be changed if there are splits or merges). Magic♪piano 12:07, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

Would you know how to find longitude and latitude?

I tried for Fulton–Mock–Blackmer House but it didn't work.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 15:35, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

If you can locate the building in Google Maps, right-click and select "What's here". This will give you a decimalized lat/lon. Magic♪piano 16:01, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
You knew where the building was located when you responded to an earlier question of mine. I'm not familiar with how Google Maps works.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 16:07, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
When I responded to your comment on Dudeman's talk page, you made reference to an edit to the National Register of Historic Places listings in Rowan County, North Carolina, in which you added the West Square Historic District, with an address of Fulton and Innes. I have no idea where the house you mention is located; if it is at Fulton and Innes, then you can navigate Google Maps to that area, and acquire coordinates as I described above. (There are probably similar ways to do the same thing in other online mapping tools.) Magic♪piano 16:15, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
It is at Fulton and Innes. Actually, a bank branch is there but the house is behind the bank. Since I have faster Internet at home now than I once did, maybe I can try this.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 16:22, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

The article Thomas Talbot (Massachusetts) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Thomas Talbot (Massachusetts) for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Ealdgyth -- Ealdgyth (talk) 15:42, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Battle of Brier Creek -- or is it "Briar"?

Hi,

You cite David Wilson's The Southern Strategy. He spells it with "a."

Bill Lastudies (talk) 22:13, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Did you look at all of the historic markers? Those that mention the battle by name use "Brier". Magic♪piano 08:18, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

You moved Charles Armand Tuffin, marquis de la Rouerie, Tadeusz Kościuszko, Casimir Pulaski to Americans in 2010. Would you please quote your sources?Xx236 (talk) 11:34, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

These individuals are no different than other Europeans who fought under the American flag -- Friedrich von Steuben and Marquis de Lafayette, to name two more. Any conventional sources that sufficiently detail Continental Army personnel (or are sufficiently detailed biographies of these individuals) should include mention that they received commissions in the Continental Army; they certainly were not fighting under their own national flags. The articles on Pulaski and Kosciuszko are fully cited, and include sourced information saying this. If you want specific sources that say so here, they will have to wait until I am off my wikibreak. Magic♪piano 13:01, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
Thank you very much, now I understand you.Xx236 (talk) 13:31, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious
Four years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:35, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for today's Battle of the Cedars, "a set of military maneuvers that I found to be somewhat (sadly) comic when viewed from on high (although I had trouble justifying the inclusion of humor in anything beyond one of the place names, which went through some interesting linguistic changes over time). Lack of communication nets a bunch of prisoners for one side, that are soon after returned; the events are overblown in the press and public discussion, resulting in some diplomatic difficulties later on in the war."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:59, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

Five years now! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:52, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

Cherry Valley

[1] Hello, please explain why there is no need for my edit? Are there rules in regard to posting reference-backed edits on Wikipedia? 208.96.66.213 (talk) 20:34, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

If you read my edit summary, I stated that your observation on diaries was out of place in the article lead (see WP:LEAD for guidance), and has nothing to do with the presence or lack of citation (by the way, you don't have to cite dictionaries for common word definitions). As a rule, material in the lead does not need to be cited at all unless it is likely to be viewed as controversial, and it should be elaborated on in the body of the article. As a further note (why I didn't move the statement somewhere else), it's also not at all clear to me what the point was of the observation, and how it enhances someone's understanding of the events described. Magic♪piano 20:47, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
|From Wikipedia:The lead should stand on its own as a concise overview of the article's topic. It should identify the topic, establish context, explain why the topic is notable, and summarize the most important points, including any prominent controversies.[2] I've asked an admin to help since I'm being more than nice here. If I'm not allowed to edit that's pretty bunk and creates less credibility for Wikipedia.
Anyway, the problem with typical 'privilege-politics' is at some point there is always going to be somebody who doesn't share what you think. To say that a 'native' is a 'native' is a 'native,' but, under special circumstances a 'regiment' consists of both natives and soldiers (not native or Indian auxiliaries as they are often, and I repeat: 'often,' called), is, erroneous. 208.96.66.213 (talk) 20:49, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
I'm not trying to drive you away, but you have to understand that you can't just add anything to any article anywhere. In this case, your contribution had no context -- it had no obvious connection to the preceding material, and was also a broad-based observation that could be made about any 18th-century British North American military journals. It also appeared in the lead, without further elaboration of whatever your point was in the body. You need to figure out how to integrate what you're trying to add into existing material. This is not always as easy it sounds. Tell me: how does your observation on British military journals deepen my understanding of the Cherry Valley massacre? I'm not a dumb guy, but right now you've got me stumped.
As far as regiments are concerned, a regiment is a military organization, and it was called such by the British Army, and is referred to as such in history books. Its members may be either of British origin, or of (say) Seneca. You tell me, how do we describe the composition of this organization? Magic♪piano 21:12, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
  • The IP has raised the issue at WP:AN, but didn't notify you. Dennis Brown - 21:08, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

It just seems that you can better understand other people and their right to contribute. In 'Wikipedia: Intro' it states that any contradictions or controversies should be mentioned in the introduction. If you haven't noticed, Brant was often made out to be a monster but in fact was following 100s of years of tradition or saving non-combatants for adoption. He explicitly called for restraint and if you've noticed another one of my edits on the Minisink page in respect to Tories dressing up as Indians, we can deduce that there is some controversy here. Beyond the diaries, I think we should use precision here on the wording. ie. Regiment. Not only was the massacre of non-combatants in a small radius of the town, but even Brant exclaimed that, "You (B)urned our House and made false accusations what made the Seneca angrey, to which they destroyed men, women, and (C)hildren and cherrevalle."

You tried to delete my edit in the Jane McCrea article saying that natives are natives, and in this article you're saying Regiments are natives. The truth of the matter is, is that Brant's Volunteers (the Seneca) made the pact in late June and linked with Barry St. Leger -- who wasn't near Mrs. McCrea. It eludes me to think that you don't regard my references, writing capabilities, or my right to contribute in general with liberty. I |helped make an article in 2008 on the Norse Colonization of the Americas from the ground up and a lot of it has been erased with only one reference surviving. Some of it survived along 3-4 references but things get revised along the road. Basically, you can't stop from articles from being changed but hopefully its for the better.|Now.

Anyway, here's an article I wrote for my political party: Destined Character: Ineffective Species and Effective Individuals.

Has God or Existence made us ineffective communicators? God doesn't communicate directly or offer the chance of democracy, but where the scars of life are related to happiness it does offer the opportunity to.

When simple theories of leadership arise in the form of scientific experiments associated with proving an existence of God (like the light-slot experiment), delusions like fascism and the rise of Egypt, the centripetal and centrifugal forces that mass ultimately displaces and sacred geometry proves, will never be erased. As water and time on Earth fade from light, life will remain.

The Tripartide Gov. system will succeed or be involved with the succession of leadership here on Earth and obedience to the Law will be liberty. Where people will know bearings in both religious and scientific theories; where proletariat revolutions will not involve the ideology of sacred geometry but will find affection and wade through the currency of righteousness. Understanding the role of police, law, civil disobedience, as neutral forces designed to block those scars that damage our right to freedom is the will of progression and God.

Our teachings from the great Anishinabe'eg Deganawidah are still relevant to democracy, to all people native to our planet and in need of Federal Academia. As the Silver Covenant of the Haudenosaunee League of Nations, we can make change happen.

How does the edit deepen your understanding for cherrevalle? It doesn't. It's part of the rules stating the Intros have controversial content (if there is any): it appears that, that helps 'deepen understanding.' So if a regiment consists of oh, say Seneca, then I really should start referencing the dictionary because you are obviously a highschool student or something. None of you arguments make any sense -- head my advice: 'the best ideas don't always get the best results, and, I'm afraid that with your mentality of "in the know" you're gonna run into problems later in life.' Anyway, the top is like a recruitment poster or financed post on FB; I hope I can be considered a useful member of Wikipedia! 208.96.66.213 (talk) 01:53, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Prior to your edits, the Seneca in this article weren't referred to as a "regiment". It appears that the only people calling them a regiment were British military diarists. As you yourself point out, this is arguably an incorrect usage of the term "regiment". So why are you adding it, and then claiming some great offense? So that I am now enlightened that 18th-century British military diarists misuse terminology? I already knew that, and it's got little to do with this action.
"because you are obviously a highschool student" Trying to be polite, are you?
"head my advice" and you claim great writing skill. Are you sure English is your first language? Magic♪piano 12:09, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

This is to let you know that the Benedict Arnold's expedition to Quebec article has been scheduled as today's featured article for September 11, 2017. Please check the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/September 11, 2017, but note that a coordinator will trim the lead to around 1100 characters anyway, so you aren't obliged to do so. Thanks! Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:08, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

File Rename

I need a favor. Some time back I uploaded the file N.E._Dickerson_Store.JPG, but it's actually the wrong building. The building is actually The Oark General Store, Oark, Arkansas, as someone corrected in the description on the Wikimedia page for the image. I now have a shot of the correct store building, so I'd like to get this one renamed correctly so I can upload the one we need. Thanks! -shane. Valis55 (talk) 01:10, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

I do not have renaming/moving power on Commons. I have added a rename request to that file, something you could also do. Magic♪piano 13:57, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

House

Hi from down under.

Really like the Holland Drew house.

Do you know how I would find out whether it were for sale?

Yours sincereley

Dr Jo Holland

Newcastle Australia

Sorry, no clue. Magic♪piano 12:06, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

About the William Bradford Article

I saw that you changed some of my edits on the dates, not mad, just wanted to inform you that not everybody is familiar with that way of writing. I live in Arkansas in the United States, and how we were taught is to write the month first, followed by the day and year. This site will explain more about it, and it mentions how, "In some countries, the day is listed before the month, which may result in international confusion if writing the date with numbers in place of the month's name". Although I don't know if this is a trusted source, but I know that's what we were taught here, thanks for taking the time to read this. :D

Here's the site: http://classroom.synonym.com/how-to-properly-write-out-the-date-12081939.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Garrison9656 (talkcontribs) 22:29, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia is an international site that does not have to follow United States norms, particularly with respect to non-American subjects (and William Bradford and John Winthrop were both Englishmen). However, your error in the Bradford article is not one of formatting (as were your edits to John Winthrop, which is explicitly tagged to use British dmy date formats), but one of content. You altered the meaning of one sentence, stating the Mayflower was sailing to Plymouth, England, rather than from it. (It wasn't sailing to Plymouth, Massachusetts, either, since it didn't exist.) You also changed the date at which Cape Cod was seen (November 9/19) to the date on which they landed (November 11), without changing the language to reflect the difference.
If you're going to edit articles on subjects that predate British adoption of the Gregorian calendar (i.e. before 1752), you should educate yourself about practices within Wikipedia surrounding the formatting of dates generally (MOS:DATES), and specific issues involving the Gregorian and Julian calendars. See MOS:OSNS and Old Style and New Style dates for more on this. It is not unusual to include both Julian and Gregorian dates ("November 9/19" being an example of such) for dates in the period when both were in use. Magic♪piano 01:44, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
Oh, and you should sign talk page entries. Magic♪piano 01:44, 2 November 2017 (UTC)


Grave of Mildred Sanderson

Hi! I saw that you uploaded File:Waltham MA Mount Feake Cemetery.JPG to commons. I wonder if you (or some of your friends) could look for the grave of Mildred Sanderson (one of the first American women who obtained a mathematics Ph.D. thesis; she died in the following year, at the age of 25), and upload a photo of her grave. According to p.542 in the supplement to Judy Green's and Jeanne LaDuke's book, Mildred Sanderson was buried at Mount Feake Cemetery. Many thanks in advance for your help. Best regards - Jochen Burghardt (talk) 21:17, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do. Magic♪piano 01:32, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

Spelling changes

Actually, I think this one was OK. Some contributors have used Brit spellings, despite the subject being US. I'm not completely au fait with US English -- I guess you are, so I'll leave the checking to you. Best, Haploidavey (talk) 23:16, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Oakland, RI

Hi there, You posted a picture of mill remains to the Oakland, RI page. I'm wondering where this mill site is and how I can visit it in person. Thank you! Yardwheel — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yardwheel (talkcontribs) 01:23, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Somewhat unsurprisingly, it is off the end of Mill Street (Google map indicator). I believe the property is fenced and posted against trespassing, although the fence is a bit, err, gappy. Magic♪piano 02:25, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

new NRHP listings

Hi, I have a question about new-ish NRHP listings. When I see statements like this, is there a way to verify them? I believe you, by the way, I just don't know how to check this myself. The NRIS page, which is linked from the county list, and seems to be the default way to look at listings, is useless. If I want to propagate this claim elsewhere in Wikipedia, I would like to make sure that the listing name, date, and number are correct, but I don't know how to do that. kennethaw88talk 07:35, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Recent listings are found in the Park Service's weekly updates; this one is in the January 5 list. (I usually add a cite if an article exists for the listing, and seems to be otherwise well cited.) Magic♪piano 15:42, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Belated best wishes for a happy 2018

The Fox Hunt (1893) by Winslow Homer, Pennsylvania Academy of the Fine Arts.
Thank you for your contributions toward making Wikipedia a better and more accurate place.

== BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 15:06, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Flathead County, Montana NRHPs

Alexander and Busey Houses

Hi, i have been appreciating your having contributed photos for many sites in National Register of Historic Places listings in Flathead County, Montana, the biggest MT county in NRHP terms. With pics by KLOTZ and others there are 113 illustrated out of 147. And by the way, do you recall anything specifically more about Alexander and Busey Houses, for which your Commons photo description (and perhaps also a comment in the list-article?) states "This is 106 5th Ave. W; the house at 112 has been demolished," but the photo of the house shows "112". Perhaps 112 was demolished then the house number was moved to the house formerly numbered 106? Hmm, i realize maybe I should have searched for any news coverage about this, but I haven't yet. Whether or not you can add any source or more info on this, thanks again for the pics. --Doncram (talk) 23:08, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

Actually from the pic descriptions with the NRHP nomination, it seems clear the surviving house in your photo was always 112, the Alexander House, and it must be the Busey House at 106 was demolished. Could you or I amend the Commons description and so on, if that is the case? In the background of your pic is a house under construction; can it be stated that the house in the background is a new house being built on site of former Busey House? TIA. --Doncram (talk) 23:14, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
I probably borked the address numbers in the notes I took when I was taking the pictures. Feel free to edit the picture description (I do it all the time on other people's mislabeled images). The under-construction house on the right side of the picture is where #106 stood. Magic♪piano 02:10, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
Okay, thanks! Updated at Commons, within list-article, and at article. --Doncram (talk) 02:32, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

re: Carnegie Libraries in Massachusetts

There have been several new libraries built in Southeastern Massachusetts in these past six years. No doubt the extreme age of the Carnegie libraries is causing rapid attrition now. This Wikipedia page therefore probably needs an extensive update.

Thanks for your service. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.230.10.172 (talk) 03:56, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

The legend explains the colors for both columns. (The colors in column one have to do with National Register listings.) Magic♪piano 03:24, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

Battle of the Cedars scheduled for TFA

This is to let you know that Battle of the Cedars has been scheduled as today's featured article for 8 May 2018. Please check that the article needs no polishing or corrections. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/May 8, 2018. Ealdgyth - Talk 15:18, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

North Carolina Mutual Life Insurance Company Building

The current headquarters didn't have an article. It does now. It seems strange to have a hatnote on a building that is no longer the headquarters. I know we don't do disambiguation when there are only two entries, but it seems like the more logical choice here.

Another option would be to change the redirect target and put the hatnote on the current company headquarters. — Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 21:36, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi MagicPiano!

Thank you so much for reverting my removal of the Deweyville Swing Bridge from the listing of that parish (will also add it back in List of bridges on the National Register of Historic Places in Louisiana). I've double checked against State of Louisiana's Division of Historic Preservation pages and it's indeed listed there too ([2]).

I was wondering about your comment this is a type of error in nps database we do not propagate... how did you spot it was an error removing it? Only for it being on a cross-state road? I've found NRHP asset detail ([3]) saying Texas, and checked nps weekly list additions for that period ([4]) which also says Texas. Found original NRHP form on Texas Historic Site Atlas ([5]) and it also says the bridge is part of Historic Bridges of Texas MPS. I'd like to make sure i'm not removing other listings due to similar issues.

Thanks again - ProprioMe OW (talk) 20:24, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

My comment about "not propagating this sort of error" is about the error of missing jurisdictions. As far as I can tell, the only way to know what jurisdictions a listing is really in is to read the nomination form (and if necessary, consult associated maps). Even then, the form's standard fields (which populate NRIS and NPGallery) don't always include all of the obvious jurisdictions, so you have to read the description. I encountered this in many of the bridges between New Hampshire and Vermont, which were typically listed only in New Hampshire, but clearly have elements in Vermont.
I noticed your removal because NationalRegisterBot (which I run periodically) creates lists of duplicate entries, and that popped up as a change. Magic♪piano 20:42, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Battle of Machias

Your coordinates for the Battle of Machias put the battle on dry land. And they were overprecise. How did you come up with those exacting coordinates? Abductive (reasoning) 00:34, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

The coordinates were probably for Machias itself, rather than the actual battle site, which isn't really known beyond general geographic descriptions. The overprecision would be the result of laziness; the coordinates were probably copied from Google Maps, which has six digit precision. Magic♪piano 01:13, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
Please round all coordinates to only d.dddd° or d°m's" precision, and check all coordinates directly against an internet mapping service once they are in an article. Abductive (reasoning) 04:29, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Mount Tenjo Fortifications

Hi, maybe you could address a small nagging question for me about Mount Tenjo Fortifications in Guam, an article which you created but maybe got interrupted or went away from without finishing completely. I visited the article and added the NRHP document as a reference, but am not 100% sure that was your source or your only source when you created it. Some or maybe all of the article's content is supported by stuff in the NRHP document, but I was left wondering whether you knew about the place independently or were using a different source, somehow because how you wrote it. Could be all good, that you did use the NRHP doc and reworded it completely into your own words. But maybe you had a different source which you could add, and I would appreciate if you could take a quick look at it. Thanks in advance. --Doncram (talk) 20:21, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

@Doncram: I used the NRHP nomination. Magic♪piano 14:49, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Kenmore wiki page

Hi there!

I am the current owner of the house Kenmore, in Richmond, MA. THe wikipedia page you've created has been a wonderful resource for us, and for many curious people. Since the date of the photo posted, we've executed a massive restoration of the house, and are beginning on the property itself. We would very much like to provide you with an updated photo of the front of the house... or multiple images, to enhance this page.

I can be reached at sec@scottedwardcole.com

Thank you so much, Scott 24.194.88.7 (talk) 19:09, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

Seaside Village Historic District

Could you remove your photo from the Seaside Village Historic District? We are celebrating our Centennial this month and are putting up some historic photos from Harvard’s Historic Collection. Thank you.

Unless you have a specific need for technical assistance (i.e. you don't know how to do something), feel free to edit the article yourself. It's not my image. Magic♪piano 12:04, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

It states that it was uploaded by Magicpiano, which is why I contacted you. I tried to remove it, but Wikipedia would not let me do it.

I may have uploaded the image, but I do not control its use. If you want to remove it from Seaside Village Historic District, you can do so. There's not much point in removing it from Commons. Magic♪piano 21:27, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Hey thanks for creating the above article, I'm working on a bio of the woman herself. In looking for sources, I noticed the NRHP Ref # in the infobox (i.e. 83003576) is not correct. It leads to the info for the John Cook House instead. I tried searching the NPS database and trolling around on NPS.GOV but I can't find the right number. Any ideas? --Krelnik (talk) 01:24, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

I've corrected the refnum; it was right in the New Haven NRHP list. It's a relatively recent listing though, so the nomination (which will probably have a decent bio) won't be online. You might be able to get it emailed from the NPS though. Magic♪piano 01:57, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
Oh cool, thanks for the quick attention. FYI the listing date was also suffering from the same cut/paste error but I fixed it. Do you have advice on where to request an emailed copy of the documents? I dug around in the NRHP wikiproject and I saw people mentioning doing this, but not how they did it. --Krelnik (talk) 02:26, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
oops, wait, I found nr_reference (at) nps.gov, is that it? --Krelnik (talk) 02:27, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
That would be the address, yes. Magic♪piano 02:29, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! I emailed them. BTW, my new article Mary Blair Moody about the namesake of that house, is now live. --Krelnik (talk) 03:59, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

GAR

Hi, I just wanted to let you know that one of your GAs, Turtle (submersible) has large amounts of unreferenced text and a refimprove tag. I don't think it satisfies the criteria anymore, so I'm considering a good article review on that one. Your thought are appreciated. L293D ( • ) 13:40, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

Error on Washington Crossing the Delaware

Hi,

I was catching up on US history around the Battle of Trenton following Washington's Crossing of the Delaware when I came across a reference to "the little ice age". The Little Ice Age refers to a Medeival era global cooling period, well before the American Revolutionary War. You may want to verify and remote that reference on the Crossing the Delaware page.

Thank for keeping the Wikipedia material up to date and we'll referenced.

Nate — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.169.159.119 (talk) 06:40, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

Source

The "source" of the phrase you defend is corrupt, it does not exist.

Check things out well, please. JamesOredan (talk) 22:24, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Really? I've actually seen that book (i.e. a physical copy, in an actual library). Perhaps you should "check things out well, please" beyond just looking to see if the google book link is up-to-date. [6] Magic♪piano 12:08, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

The link was completely out of use. If you are going to defend a phrase at least look at the state of the source.

A greeting. JamesOredan (talk) 13:27, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

I did. The source was fine (i.e. the book exists). Magic♪piano 13:33, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

But make sure the link is clean, but for practical purposes it does not mean anything in Wikipedia.

Thanks for adding source. JamesOredan (talk) 16:15, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Turtle (submersible)

Turtle (submersible), an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. L293D ( • ) 13:49, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

I'm afraid the many (apparently class project) edits to the article since my work on it have brought it to a point beyond my ability to effectively salvage. (I think a number of the uncited contributions are probably worthy, and I am reluctant to just delete them.) Magic♪piano 13:58, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Connecticut over 90 percent, congrats

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
Congratulations on bringing National Register of Historic Places listings in Connecticut over the 90% "quality" hurdle, per this wp:NRHPPROGRESS measurement diff. For the state's 1,590 listings, you've contributed hugely to achieving 95.7% coverage by photos, 94.3% by articles, 82.3% by "start"-level writing, reaching 90.1% by the combo quality measure, just now. Wow, it's been a long process you have been pursuing! With admiration.... Doncram (talk) 22:51, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

Hiya!

   I think you and i had a "[so-called] real-life" discussion abt WP, and I just tripped over your lovely contrib about a common interest, in the course of considering again my previous ambitions for the topic. Tonite, i'm taking a hack at addressing the DAB matter, even if i get a little beyond that aspect. Feedback/reciprocal-collaboration of course (perhaps even more) fully welcome (than that of my previous, cyber-only,) other colleagues. :-)
--05:26, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:199:C202:287E:25A4:7408:7364:6304 (talk) 05:26, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Moved Harbour Square to Central DC from Upper NW

On the NRHP DC lists I moved Harbour Square to Central DC from Upper NW quadrant. It seems to be something like an HD that includes several pre-existing NRHP sites, including Wheat Row. I didn't do the renumbering, since I don't know the semi-automated process.

I'll ping @Farragutful: since he's taken pix of the sites there, and suggest that he choose a photo. There's an extensive category for Harbour Square at Commons, including many HABS photos. I also adjusted the coordinates to Wheat Row's. Please let me know if I'm misunderstanding something here. Smallbones(smalltalk) 14:21, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing. I don't always get these things right... Magic♪piano 17:20, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
When I added a photo for Harbour Square I noticed that a listing for the Bloomingdale Historic District was not added. It was listed on the NRHP the same week. There are plenty of photos to choose from in the neighborhood's category in the Commons. I also uploaded photos yesterday for the Petworth Branch Library and MacFarland Middle (Junior High) School, which were listed last week. Farragutful (talk) 02:05, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

National Register of Historic Places in D.C.

Are you purposely leaving off newly listed properties in Washington, D.C.? In an earlier post, I alerted you to the Bloomingdale Historic District not being added, and I also mentioned the Petworth Branch Library. Neither were put on when you added MacFarland Junior High School and Roosevelt H.S. In the same post I mentioned I had taken a photo of MacFarland, which you did not post, but you did post a photo of Roosevelt, which I never mentioned. What gives here? Farragutful (talk) 00:49, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Well, no (to answer your first question). I do the best I can to add the new listings, but apparently sometimes miss things. I also don't own the process of adding new listings -- feel free to update the DC listings yourself, as others do for geographies of their interest. When the new DC listings appeared, I didn't recall your statement about pictures; the Roosevelt School has an article, so I used its picture. Magic♪piano 02:11, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

You created Coleman-Franklin-Cannon Mill when there was a separate article on the company that was there. Should there really be two separate articles?— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 17:37, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

American Revolution, North Carolina Militia Units

I am interested in writing some pages on North Carolina Militia Units in the American Revolution. I created a page for the Salisbury District Brigade as a starting point. I have a lot of sourcing for the Regiments in this brigade and the officers in these units. Do I need to join a project or contact someone to continue this work? I have used Wikipedia for over a decade but only recently started working on the North Carolina Revolutionary War Units. Do you have any other advice? Talk to GM 18:25, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi @G. Moore:. I don't have any specific guidance, but you might look at some of the more well-written regiment articles, such as the Maryland and Virginia Rifle Regiment. Magic♪piano 13:50, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

Fenn farm

This is my grandparents farm. The picture is not correct. That is the Elmer Farm next door. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.254.66.6 (talk) 22:54, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out. Magic♪piano 15:40, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

A small bug with ReorderNRHPList.js

ReorderNRHPList.js only works on pages that start with "National Register of Historic Places listings in", so the button doesn't show up on National Register of Historic Places listings on the island of Hawaii. Since only you (and the interface admins) can change the script, would you mind fixing it to support that list? TheCatalyst31 ReactionCreation 13:59, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

Strangely, there is logic in the script that ought to take care of it, but it doesn't work. I'll have a look soon. Magic♪piano 19:56, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
I assume it has something to do with the first if statement, which seems to explicitly check for pages that start with "National Register of Historic Places listings in" or "National Historic Landmarks in" (and ensures they're in the article namespace). TheCatalyst31 ReactionCreation 04:38, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
I think I got it fixed. Magic♪piano 15:51, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
Looks fixed to me. Thanks! TheCatalyst31 ReactionCreation 23:21, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

I need someone with an interest in Haywood County, North Carolina historic buildings to comment here.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 15:05, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious
Six years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:17, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Ross Building, other Arkansas NRHPs, NRIS vs. Weekly reference

Hi User:Magicpiano, thank you for creating Ross Building and other Arkansas NRHP articles recently, including finding and using the NRHP documents from the state of Arkansas. I hope you don't mind my noticing and occasionally visiting and editing some of the ones that pop up in my notices or watchlist. Just now I expanded the Ross Building article and Winchester Auto Store and linked between them, and I am creating a related article about a modern architectural firm associated with both of them; I anticipate it is Wikipedia-notable but one will see. I don't know if you check follow-on edits, but one thing i think you know I do occasionally is to expand the NRHP document references to include fuller title, and author(s) and date of preparation. I assume you agree that such changes are a small improvement but I agree they are not crucial, because the sources are directly linked and as volunteers we get to choose what we want to add or not.

But hey, both of these articles used a standard NRIS reference which produced odd-appearing displays of a 2009 date, while I am sure your source for NRHP listing was a 2019 "Weekly list" instead (either directly, or through the addition of the items to the corresponding NRHP county list-articles by you or another editor, when they were listed). Don't you think that referencing the appropriate Weekly list is necessary/better, because what displayed was technically incorrect in a minor way? (E.g. see change by me on this, for Ross Building.) Perhaps you could easily copy a version of the Weekly reference in your other new articles? Or do you think it would be more efficient for someone to search on NRIS references and dates of listing and identify cases like this and address them in some bot-assisted way or something, later? Anyhow, either way, thanks again for creating these articles. --Doncram (talk) 22:39, 27 August 2019 (UTC)


placeholder template for NRHP weekly announcements

Hi, i created template:NRHPweekly to accommodate somewhat vague citations to the NPS's weekly listings of NRHPs. It is vague in not linking to any one specific announcement.

Could you please use this in the new pages you create for relatively new listings, instead of using template:NRISref, which is not exactly correct for these?

I assume you are copying in a block of text from somewhere offline, into your new articles. Could you change your model to include: <ref name=NRHPweekly>{{NRHPweekly}}</ref> instead of the NRISref within the NRHP infobox. And cite that as needed elsewhere in the article by <ref name=NRHPweekly/>

I applied this in your recent new article Jonesboro U.S. Post Office and Courthouse. This will facilitate later cleanup, perhaps by linking instead to a specific announcement page, or perhaps to a future version of NRIS which includes this listing.

sincerely, --Doncram (talk) 22:47, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

Good, i see you did this in new Dr. Albert H. Tribble House. I think that these could be modified to link to more specific announcement pages relatively efficiently by someone in the future, doing them all at once, or might be better resolved some other way. Thanks. --Doncram (talk) 20:55, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Delisted Dawson Woman's Club

I saw that Dawson Woman's Club was delisted from the NRHP. Do they give a reason for that? Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 19:36, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

The weekly listings don't give a reason. You'd probably have to ask NPS or the Georgia SHPO for the reason. Given what's stated in the article, it's probably because it was recently moved. Magic♪piano 19:41, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
I can see delisting a building if it is destroyed, but this one was just moved about 2 blocks. It is the same building. Generally why are things delisted? Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 20:25, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
I emailed their historical society, but so far I haven't gotten a reply. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 21:50, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
I believe moving a listed building without NPS permission is grounds for automatic delisting. Moving a building is considered to be a loss of historical context, so moved buildings (moved either before or after listing) have to have their statements of significance justify continued significance despite the move. Buildings that are not demolished can also be delisted because of incompatible alterations that strip them of the characteristics that made them listable. Magic♪piano 22:05, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
The NRHP form does mention landscaping, but the NRHP photos don't show much landscaping. Buildings get destroyed or demolished (probably without NPS permission) and remain on the register. (We went out of our way to get photos of this last year.) Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 23:36, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

You were right. I heard back from the county historical society "Unfortunately it was removed due to the recent relocation of the cabin." Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 03:47, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

editToken

Hello Magicpiano,

Your scripts User:Magicpiano/NRBot/ReorderNRHPlist.js and User:Magicpiano/NRBot/UpdateNRHPProgress.js are no longer functional because they attempt to get an editToken from mw.user.tokens. The scripts should instead get a csrfToken. editTokens were removed from mw.user.tokens on October 3, 2019 at Phabricator during this edit as they were redundant to csrfTokens.BrandonXLF (talk) 00:06, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Framlingham -- Framingham

You are correct in pointing out that I should have double-checked. Having worked near Framingham (Massachusetts) and then reading that it was named for the place of Danforth's birth, I took the L version as a typo.

Colonials seemed to be quite fuzzy on orthography. The town of Killingworth, CT, was supposed to be Kenilworth.

BTW, I was checking the Danforth page (and signature) because he was the "recorder" (yes, that was his title) on the will of my 7th GGfather, Thomas Fox of Concord, in 1657. The signatures match.

PS You have a very interesting set of interests.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by SP Phil (talkcontribs) 06:31, 13 January 2020 (UTC) 

Rogers Milk Plant

Hello, I am new to Wikipedia. My college professor has asked us to find a stub and work on it as a research project. I am interested in the changes in dairy production and processing that have went on in Arkansas. I thought you may have some advice for what I could add to this stub that would be relevant and perhaps point me in some directions to find appropriate content. I would truly appreciate any help you could lend to me. Sincerely,

Paulette Delk — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1000Grumbles (talkcontribs) 15:33, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

@1000Grumbles: Sorry for the delayed response. I have only general ideas that might help you: first, read the National Register nomination (which is linked as one of the sources in the article). It may provide further background on dairy production in the region. Second, I believe there is a historical society in Rogers that might also be able to help you. Thirdly, you might look for dairy-related National Register listings in surrounding counties, or other parts of the state where the dairy industry is substantial. The nomination forms for these types of listings sometimes provide substantial historical background. Good luck! Magic♪piano 18:33, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

New duplicate listing

Longmire Historic District is in both Lewis County, Washington and Pierce County, but it was only included in the Pierce County list until I made some updates today. When you get the chance, could you run NationalRegisterBot to update the duplicates so the counts on the progress page aren't off by one? TheCatalyst31 ReactionCreation 00:50, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

I'll try to get to it in the next few days. Magic♪piano 13:58, 13 May 2020 (UTC)