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Miranda Pratt at Kansas City Library
Hi sue, hope all is well with you. Just been reading The Kansas City Public Library claims that Miranda Pratt is "the first Wikipedian-In-Residence appointed by a public library in the United States.". Perhaps you can find her user name and we can offer to help her along.--Ipigott (talk) 08:32, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- Ipigott, That's super interesting! I'll see what I can do! I'll reach out to Kansas City. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 23:37, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for your help and discovering it's Chrysanthemum123. Those reading your page may be interested to see she is hosting a virtual editathon on women's basketball tomorrow, August 28.--Ipigott (talk) 06:49, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Megalibrarygirl & Ipigott! I just wanted to thank you both for your help with the History of the WBA: Wiki Edit-a-Thon and for offering to help with various things in the future. I am grateful to be contributing to Wikipedia alongside awesome folks like yourselves. I also wanted to let y'all know that I use they/them pronouns. Looking forward to future collaborations and working on the WIR lists! Chrysanthemum123 (talk) 17:46, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for your help and discovering it's Chrysanthemum123. Those reading your page may be interested to see she is hosting a virtual editathon on women's basketball tomorrow, August 28.--Ipigott (talk) 06:49, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
DYK for Women's suffrage in New Jersey
On 10 September 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Women's suffrage in New Jersey, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that women originally had the right to vote in New Jersey thanks to its constitution until an 1807 act removed that right? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Women's suffrage in New Jersey. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Women's suffrage in New Jersey), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
- Cwmhiraeth, OMG! This made my day!!!! :D Megalibrarygirl (talk) 19:15, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
Phenomenal work, thank you. No Swan So Fine (talk) 08:06, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
- No Swan So Fine, Thank you! That article took so much time. I'm really glad it was appreciated! :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 19:15, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
2021 Women's March
Only if you're interested: 2021 Women's March. Either way, hope you're doing well and happy editing! ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:17, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
- Another Believer, I might pop in! Things have been busy, but I always enjoy working with you. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 22:44, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
New Page Patrol newsletter September 2021
Hello Megalibrarygirl/Archives/2021,
Please join this discussion - there is increase in the abuse of Wikipedia and its processes by POV pushers, Paid Editors, and by holders of various user rights including Autopatrolled. Even our review systems themselves at AfC and NPR have been infiltrated. The good news is that detection is improving, but the downside is that it creates the need for a huge clean up - which of course adds to backlogs.
Copyright violations are also a serious issue. Most non-regular contributors do not understand why, and most of our Reviewers are not experts on copyright law - and can't be expected to be, but there is excellent, easy-to-follow advice on COPYVIO detection here.
At the time of the last newsletter (#25, December 2020) the backlog was only just over 2,000 articles. New Page Review is an official system. It's the only firewall against the inclusion of new, improper pages.
There are currently 706 New Page Reviewers plus a further 1,080 admins, but as much as nearly 90% of the patrolling is still being done by around only the 20 or so most regular patrollers.
If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process or its software.
Various awards are due to be allocated by the end of the year and barnstars are overdue. If you would like to manage this, please let us know. Indeed, if you are interested in coordinating NPR, it does not involve much time and the tasks are described here.
To opt-out of future mailings, please remove yourself here. Sent to 827 users. 04:32, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Draft rewrite of Notability (academics) & Wikipedia:Draft rewrite of Notability (academics)/Side-by-side
Hello, Megalibrarygirl,
I was looking for misplaced Draft pages and stumbled across your proposal. Do you consider it an active discussion or can it be reactivated? It looks like a lot of work has gone into it and I don't think it should be marked as historical but it hasn't been worked on since 2019. What do you think, what should happen next? Liz Read! Talk! 23:46, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Liz! I had totally forgotten about working on that. SusunW was also involved. It's a really tough fight to try to get any notability guidelines changed, though that doesn't mean we shouldn't try. If you're interested in drafts, maybe we can all look at it again. (BTW, my apologies, I'm helping move one library collection to another building and my brain is mush.) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 15:16, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hey Liz yes, we put a lot of work into it, but before we were even finished putting it together, a group of people who monitor the guideline brought it to wider discussion. It seemed very clear from the discussions that we would not be afforded the ability to prepare it for presentation without larger involvement. We weren't trying to keep it a secret, but wanted to adequately prepare the document and arguments for change, but it sort of felt like that was hijacked. It also seemed clear that it would never be brought to the larger community for discussion, because not only were those who responded mostly against making changes (and began infighting), we were doing it in a manner that was different from the usual process. I have quite literally given up on thinking policies and guidelines on en.WP will ever seriously be analyzed and amended, as too many voices are silenced and positions of those who do participate regularly are entrenched. My time is better spent trying to fill the gaps in our presentation of knowledge, thus I rarely even comment unless I am strongly opposed to a proposal. That being said, I think it is safe to toss the proposal in the collective boneyard ;) SusunW (talk) 15:49, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
- Another big problem Liz and SusunW is not even that people's voices are silenced, it's that "consensus" can be made when no one speaks up... but how do you know that something is being changed if you don't spend all your time monitoring everything? It's a frustrating process. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:24, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
- Totally agree, Sue. I don't have time to create and monitor all the policy discussions. That doesn't mean I am uninterested, it means my time is limited. Often consensus is merely reached by small a handful of people who had time and willingness to reply. I too find it frustrating. SusunW (talk) 16:46, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
- One thing I'd be interested in, SusunW is some kind of way you could sign up for changes on certain pages that would ping you via email or text that there's a discussion going on. So if you're interested in Notability for example, you would be notified. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 23:16, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
- You can bookmark it to your watch list by clicking on the star at the top or adding a comment and clicking on "watch this page", but as far as I know, unless someone pings you, you won't get a notification. SusunW (talk) 23:31, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah SusunW, I really want a real world ping. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 19:21, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
- You can bookmark it to your watch list by clicking on the star at the top or adding a comment and clicking on "watch this page", but as far as I know, unless someone pings you, you won't get a notification. SusunW (talk) 23:31, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
- One thing I'd be interested in, SusunW is some kind of way you could sign up for changes on certain pages that would ping you via email or text that there's a discussion going on. So if you're interested in Notability for example, you would be notified. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 23:16, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
- Totally agree, Sue. I don't have time to create and monitor all the policy discussions. That doesn't mean I am uninterested, it means my time is limited. Often consensus is merely reached by small a handful of people who had time and willingness to reply. I too find it frustrating. SusunW (talk) 16:46, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
- Another big problem Liz and SusunW is not even that people's voices are silenced, it's that "consensus" can be made when no one speaks up... but how do you know that something is being changed if you don't spend all your time monitoring everything? It's a frustrating process. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:24, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hey Liz yes, we put a lot of work into it, but before we were even finished putting it together, a group of people who monitor the guideline brought it to wider discussion. It seemed very clear from the discussions that we would not be afforded the ability to prepare it for presentation without larger involvement. We weren't trying to keep it a secret, but wanted to adequately prepare the document and arguments for change, but it sort of felt like that was hijacked. It also seemed clear that it would never be brought to the larger community for discussion, because not only were those who responded mostly against making changes (and began infighting), we were doing it in a manner that was different from the usual process. I have quite literally given up on thinking policies and guidelines on en.WP will ever seriously be analyzed and amended, as too many voices are silenced and positions of those who do participate regularly are entrenched. My time is better spent trying to fill the gaps in our presentation of knowledge, thus I rarely even comment unless I am strongly opposed to a proposal. That being said, I think it is safe to toss the proposal in the collective boneyard ;) SusunW (talk) 15:49, 24 September 2021 (UTC)