User talk:Naxh

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May 2023

Hello, I'm Doug Weller. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, El Mansouria, Lebanon, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Policy says don’t restore text removed as unsourced without adding sources Doug Weller talk 19:21, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

Also note that some of that text had been marked as unsourced. None of it was sourced. Go ahead and restore the image if you want. Doug Weller talk 19:22, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi Doug,

My sources are from a physical book called: Jidejian, Nina. Beirut, a City ofContrast.Mansourieh: Editions ALEPH, 2008. Naxh (talk) 19:24, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

Ok, although you need a page number. But you also restored the section on families which has no references, so you’ve gone against policy twice. Please remove it. It would almost certainly need multiple reliable sources. Note that I would never protect a page unless there had been a lot of recent vandalism that other editors couldn’t deal with, and certainly not because an editor was enforcing basic policy. I’m tired and am going to sleep soon but hope you will comply. Note that I’m involved so won’t take any action using my Admin privileges. That would be wrong. Doug Weller talk 20:14, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

I did not contribute to the family section, but I find it utterly unconscionable that you are choosing to delete it, especially after someone (another author) invested considerable time and effort into compiling it in written form. Additionally, if you are interested in exploring further, there are two highly informative books that shed light on the histories of Lebanese families: "The Lebanese in the World: A Century of Emigration" by Albert Hourani and "A History of Modern Lebanon" by Fawwaz Traboulsi. If you wish to delve into Lebanese genealogy, I can provide you with a long list of bibliographic references. I appreciate that the references I have align with the content described in the article. However, I fail to comprehend why you would choose to censor or regulate a topic that holds no relevance to you in the United States, the United Kingdom or wherever else you are located. That seems like colonial behavior to me. Best. Naxh (talk) 21:09, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

@Naxh All of that section was written in 2009 by 3 people, at a time when our policies were a bit more lax. It doesn't matter if they spent time and effort if there are no sources. Nor does where I am matter, anyone can write about any subject they want. What is relevant to me is that our articles are all reliably sourced. Your comments about me are utter nonsense and insulting.

"Aligned" is an interesting word choice - it doesn't mean that the text is actually in the sources. I find it hard to believe that one source actually backs all of that family text, and it would be quite a coincidence if three authors all used the same book.

Honestly that's a bad article. It uses Wikimapia as a source, and we don't use wiki based sources. Citation 1 isn't even a reference. No reason for 2 images of the aqueduct, one good one would be enough. No source at all for the large geography section which in some cases is poor anyway - eg "The old road on the other hand, offers a great view on Beirut along with trees and nice houses and buildings." We aren't a tourist guide. And why are we being told it has lots of shops? That's not encyclopedic. But I didn't delete it, I only deleted the family section because of the unreferenced template.

Long story short, that section still isn't properly sourced - can you swear that every bit of it is in your book? Doug Weller talk 07:47, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

While I acknowledge that my comments may come across as critical, I strongly believe that your neocolonial behavior is disrespectful. It's important to recognize the significant effort the authors put into documenting Lebanon's history and genealogy in English even if it was in 2009, especially given the current circumstances in the country. The high immigration rates are cause for concern, especially in eastern Christian communities who are disappearing from the region, and it is crucial that we preserve and make accessible the history of Lebanon in English for all those who have left. If you are genuinely interested, I encourage you to consider purchasing one of the many books available and immersing yourself in Lebanese history and genealogy? There are numerous books published in multiple languages, including in Arabic and French. Most of them are available at the Oriental Library that you can borrow in case you are not willing to spend money on such a purchase. These resources provide valuable insights into the ancestral history of Lebanon and cater to a wider audience. It's worth exploring these publications to gain a comprehensive understanding of Lebanese genealogy from various linguistic perspectives. Additionally, reaching out to reliable sources such as the Municipality of Mansourieh and the Lebanese Ministry of Interior of Lebanon can provide certified proof and further information on these families. While I acknowledge that there is room for improvement on this Wikipedia page, I respectfully disagree with your claim that it is very bad as you suggest. I have seen much worse around here. However, I do recognize the importance of enhancing its quality and accuracy. As a proactive step, I am willing to take responsibility and update the picture and maybe even some of the text to ensure its relevance. Naxh (talk) 17:16, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

WP:NPA and assumption of bad-faith

Your repeated assertions that other editor(s) editing is influenced by "(neo)colonial behavior", and mocking of their intention and knowledge, most recently seen in this re-posting of earlier comments, is not acceptable collaborative conduct. It is especially galling when the editor is correct about the need for reliable sourcing and WP:BURDEN. Your, and other editors', efforts to improve the El Mansouria, Lebanon article by adding sources and content (and removing unsourced material) is appreciated but please drop the condescending posturing. Abecedare (talk) 16:20, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your message. I want to clarify that I never intended to attack or offend anyone with my comments. Initially, I genuinely valued Doug Weller's feedback. However, I became increasingly frustrated by the removing of sections in my back and in the back of the other authors. Despite having a busy day today, I am committed to dedicating time in the coming days to improving this page. Naxh (talk) 21:06, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

No personal attacks

Wikipedia is the encyclopedia that anyone can edit. Don't attack editors from other countries as you have done on Talk:El Mansouria, Lebanon, with statements such as "However, I fail to comprehend why you would choose to censor or regulate a topic that holds no relevance to you in the United States, the United Kingdom, or wherever else you are located. That seems like colonial behavior to me" and "I strongly believe that your neocolonial behavior is disrespectful and "I find it difficult to comprehend Doug Weller's aggressive behavior, particularly considering his apparent lack of knowledge." Have a read of the policies Wikipedia:Civility and Wikipedia:No personal attacks. And Wikipedia:Assume good faith, too. The next attack you make, you will be blocked. Bishonen | tålk 17:32, 20 May 2023 (UTC).

Thank you for your message and links. I want to clarify that I never intended to attack or offend anyone with my comments. Initially, I genuinely valued Doug Weller's feedback. However, I became increasingly frustrated by the removing of sections in my back and in the back of the other authors. Despite having a busy day today, I am committed to dedicating time in the coming days to improving the quality of this page. Naxh (talk) 21:06, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

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