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Save Indian Family

Hello Otolemur crassicaudatus,
It looks like you feel very passionately about the Indian Men's Rights movement. Good! However, one of the core policies of Wikipedia is that articles should always be written from neutral point of view, and some of your edits have been in contravention of this policy, for example on Save Indian Family and Men's movement in India It would be a good idea to read up on the core policies of Wikipedia before editing further. Thanks! --Slp1 19:09, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

I think that removing the adjective 'alleged' before 'misuses' (regarding misuses of laws) in some sentences in the articles Save Indian Family and Men's rights movement in India, placing the adjective 'gender-biased' before Section 498a of the Indian Penal Code, creating the article Men's rights movement in India, and some other edits regarding men's issues lead the user Slp1 to comment I am not writing from neutral point of view. But according to Section 498a of the Indian Penal Code, the husband can never be a victim of domestic violence, but the victim is always the wife. So the Section 498a of the Indian Penal Code can be labelled as 'gender-biased'. And the misuse of Section 498a of the Indian Penal Code by dishonest wives to harrass innocent husbands is a well-known fact and has been discussed by various organizations. So it is unnecessary to put 'alleged' while pointing the misuse of Section 498a of Indian Penal Code. Otolemur crassicaudatus 11:13, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

The issue with 'alleged' and 'gender-biased' are only part of the edits which I find problematic, but let's deal with them. I am afraid that the reasonings you are proposing are Original Research unless you can find reliable sources confirming your statements.--Slp1 12:14, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Independence Day

You have been severly clogging up the page history of Independence Day (film). Please stop. It makes it more difficult to keep up with constructive edits. A large number of you edits could have been done in 5 larger edits, and you don't even mark you edits as minor edits. I hope you learn in due time how annoying, and unhelpful this can be. THROUGH FIRE JUSTICE IS SERVED! 09:55, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

I apologize for not marking the minor edits. But I am disagree with you regarding linking of the 'Awards' section. The awards 'Independence Day' was awarded should be linked. Otolemur crassicaudatus 13:18, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

You are still clogging the history. You dont use the "Show preview" button do you? Here is the first paragraph; you really need to read this, and I've bolded a few things:

"Below the edit box is a Show preview button. Pressing this will show you what the article will look like without actually saving it. It is strongly recommended that you use this prior to saving. This allows you to check what the page will look like first and to check that you haven't made any errors. It also prevents the need for multiple saves. Saving the same article a large number of times in quick succession makes it harder for people to check what changed, and clogs up the page history." THROUGH FIRE JUSTICE IS SERVED! 21:29, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Prostitution in Kolkata

Hi Otolemur,

I just wanted to stop by and let you know that I merged the content of your newly-created page Call girls in Kolkata into the existing page Prostitution in Kolkata. No text was lost during the process, and the merge was not done because I felt your work was inadequate or lacking in any way. Rather, the fact that the content in the new page was more or less a copy of what was on the existing page combined with the rather limited nature of the existing content suggested that the topic would simply be served better by having that information in one place.

I apologize if you feel this edit was unwelcome, but given the reasons above I decided to be bold and go ahead with the change. I urge you to continue expanding the section on the existing page--if at some time in the future the content becomes too expansive and unwieldy to fit in a single article, I would recommend you split it off into a new article at that time.

Naturally it is up to you whether or not to accept my changes, but I feel that what I did was in line with the manual of style and will have an overall positive impact on this topic. In addition, having everything in one place should help you keep up the excellent quality of your work. Thanks, and happy editing! --jonny-mt(t)(c)Tell me what you think! 13:51, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Re: Renaming Categories

Hello. The process to rename a category is detailed here; if it is an uncontroversial one, the process may be quick. If it is disputed, you may have to debate the issue with other editors. As for your second question, relating to a "scientific inaccuracies" section in the ID4 article, that would be a good idea, as long as you source all additions, and do not use original research (i.e. information you have discovered or observed yourself; it must all come from a good secondary source which has analysed the film). I hope this has been a help to you. Best regards, Liquidfinale (Ţ) (Ç) (Ŵ) 13:41, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Your NPWatcher application

Dear Otolemur crassicaudatus,

Thank you for applying for NPWatcher! You've been approved to use it. Before you run the program, please check the changelog on the application page to see if there is a newer release (or just add the main page (here) to your watchlist). Report any bugs or feature suggestion here. If you need help, feel free to contact me or join NPWatcher.

Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 14:49, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Pitbull discography

Hi Otolemur,

I just wanted to let you know that the article you tagged for deletion, Pitbull discography, was actually deleted per an AfD discussion, and as such I've changed the criteria to G4 to reflect this.

Of course, I was helped by the fact that the author removed the tag themselves, but that's another issue.... --jonny-mt 07:16, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for the welcome tools on my page, I appreciate it.--Friedricer (talk) 05:21, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Cowl (oast)

I'm in the process of creating this page, which you tagged for references and cleanup almost as soon as it was loaded. Give me a few hours and Cowl (oast) will be fully compliant with wiki standards. Mjroots (talk) 10:11, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Tags - I disagree with 3 of the 4 tags you placed on the article. I do not wish to get into an edit war, so I have put forward my reasons why I disagree on the talk page. You are welcome to say why they should stay, and what needs doing to enable their removal, as is any other Wikipedian. Mjroots (talk) 08:48, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Do not be too hasty to tag for deletion

Hi there Otolemur crassicaudatus. Here is something to 'chew on'. One can NOT copyright what is BASIC and irrefutable data on someone's wartime service. I could have obtained the data from any number of sources just because I don't need to retype something already typed. The data is accompanied by almost no other service information, never mind the rest of the biography like dates of birth and death, place of birth, a bit more information of service, etc. So while you may feel great about the delete, I am NOT going to create another seed article again, and the general will remain highlighted in red as he has been for a while I suspect because no one is going to do research on one of the less prominent and known German generals. Feeling good about your speedy delete tag? You have exercised you right to bureaucracy and wasted my 5 minutes in creating the article. Be more like a human being and not a bot, and think before you do.--Mrg3105 (talk) 10:06, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Italian Violinmakers

Hi, just to let you know that this article is not eligible for speedy deletion per CSD:A7 because it is about a book, and not a person, band, group, club, website, organization or company. It's been placed on AFD though. Stifle (talk) 14:59, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Why?

Why did you place a deletion tag on Toadscastle.net? The TC Man (talk) 16:18, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

It was non-notable and nonencyclopedic. Which is why I placed the tag there.Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 16:22, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion

I have added more relevant info and notes to the Dale Threlkeld article. Is there anything specific that still needs to be improved in your opinion? I would like time to add more references if needed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dughlas (talk • contribs) 19:35, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Constance Jeans

According to Wikipedia:Notability (people) Constance Jeans is notabe because she competed at the highest level in amateur sports winning two silver medals at the two Olympic games and finished three times in fourth position and once in seventh. So could you please modify the page again and delete your tag. Thanks! Gh (talk) 11:30, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Possibly a bit obscure

All electrical appliances need not apply?--Electrical Appliances & Supplies Are Your Friends (talk) 19:14, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

?

There's a lot of topics I dont understand either but I dont demand they get deleted. I was gonna make a lot more pages (I have so many electrical formulas in my head!), but now I better wait, huh?Electrical Appliances & Supplies Are Your Friends (talk) 19:28, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Edward Jones, and many others

I've declined the speedy. He is not merely chairman of a dept at UC Irvine, which is certainly enough of an assertion of notability to pass speedy, but a member of the National Academy of Science, which is unquestionably enough to have notability, per WP:N and subpages. 100% consistence on this at AfD, just as in the case for Jeans.

and then I saw:
  • Leo Scherman is asserted to be the director of two feature films. This is an assertion of notability. I do not myself know about the notability of the films, but it certainly prevents Speedy. Another admin. removed the tag, quite correctly.
  • Denise Main may or may not be notable, but the article asserts multiple peer-review publications and important positions. Again, that is enough to pas speedy.
  • Robin Sutherland is a probably copyvio, as noticed by another editor, but it too asserted notability.
  • Peugeot Speedfight tagged as empty, was judged by another admin as a reasonable stub.
  • Badshah Munir Bukhari was identified as notable on the basis of a simple Google search by another ed, and the tag properly removed.
  • Kai Bracht played in the World Cup, which yet another admin recognized as a clear expression of notability
  • Ron Brewighton was recognized as almost certainly notable by a different admin.

and all of this is during one day, the 23rd.

I notice that perhaps 20% of your speedies have been declined, by many other admins as well as myself. Though the other 80% are excellent, that 20% create a good deal of unnecessary work for us. Perhaps you should slow down a little; having Friendly does not mean you can properly examine articles at the rate of 2 minutes an article. and perhaps you might want to reread WP:Deletion policy. Any assertion of notability however insufficient, is enough to prevent speedy for A7. Please do this before you start again. DGG (talk) 03:59, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Merge proposal

Maybe once the article, or future section, is long enough, we can stub it and split it off to it's own article. That's what I hope what happens. Street children in general gets more attention than any article about street children in a particular area, at least in wikipedia. --Kannie | talk 18:09, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

I agree that Street children in general gets more attention. But as you can see the from the article, that gives a worldwide view, and that can be said the mother article. Just like Poverty, and then comes Poverty in United States, Poverty in Pakistan etc. etc. I am specifically telling it because it is specific of a particular geographic location which would have unique characteristics and different from a general worlwide view. Moreover you can see the new article is quite long enough and have a wide range of issues like Drugs, Health Problems, Legal Action etc. etc. which is too limited to a geographic boundary. How these huge specialised info will stay in the mother article.Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 18:19, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Kindly for your advice. To be honest im not really good at wikipfying, can you offer some guidence on where I can learn more on that and possibly seek further help? Also would appreciate any further guidence on how to improve the articel, kind regards.Susanbryce (talk) 18:14, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Your recent AfDs

Please make sure when nominating articles for AfD that you complete the nomination by listing them on the appropriate articles for deletion log page.

Also many of the pages you are sending to AfD could be dealt with using speedy deletion tags, which are simpler and take less time.

Good luck editing, and if you have any questions feel free to ask them on my talk page. Improbcat (talk) 18:19, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

  • I do all my editing manually, so I can't help you with Twinkle. Sorry. Improbcat (talk) 18:33, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Grouping Article Issues

Not sure if you were aware, but there is an {{articleissues}} template that allows you to group maintene tags together to prevent the article from having too many templates. --Nn123645 (talk) 20:25, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Otaka's Scoop

Go to the talk page of Otaka's Scoop, and see why this page should be kept. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Artemis Potter (talk • contribs) 16:37, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

thanks

thank you for treating me well —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gman555 (talk • contribs) 19:42, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Overtagging

Note that adding tons of tags to a brand new article is not necessary. It may discourage new users and many tags are redundant to each other or unnecessary for stubs. Looking at this:

  • {{cleanup}} is unnecessary when more specific tags are used
  • a stub tag should normally be used in place of {{expand}}
  • {{internallinks}} is redundant to {{wikify}}
  • a 1 sentence article does not need {{copyedit}}
  • a 1 sentence article that has a reference does not need {{refimprove}}
  • a 1 sentence article about a non-technical subject probably does not need {{expert}} attention either. Mr.Z-man 21:57, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Lexical markup framework

hi Otolemur,

I have two questions:

Q1: Could you tell me whether or not the warning "Notability of Lexical markup framework" is still valid?

Q2: It is said that the article "Lexical markup framework" may require cleanup. Could you please tell me a little bit more? The article is a little bit technical: it's about a formal specification. It's not very easy to explain these sorts of things with every day life terms. Do you see what I mean?

Happy new year Francopoulo (talk) 16:14, 29 December 2007 (UTC)


hi Otolemur,

Again, concerning the cleanup, do you think it's enough, now?

Let's note that we have other scientific communications, but they are obsolete because we change our mind concerning the data model, so I don't want to refer to them in order to avoid any confusion.

Thanks, Francopoulo (talk) 17:49, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

hi Otolemur,

I have another question about a subject that I did not find in the help pages.

The problem is as follows: 'lexical markup framework' is sometimes referred to as 'ISO-LMF'.

Is it possible to create a sort of alias such that when the string "ISO-LMF" is typed in the search field, the reader goes to the "lexical markup framework" page?

Is my explanation clear enough.

Thanks, Francopoulo (talk) 18:30, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

AN discussion about new page patrolling

Please take some time to read over the comments at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#New Page Patrolling and WP:BITE. Using too many tags too often may stifle article development instead of encouraging collaboration. ˉˉanetode╦╩ 05:41, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Recent attacks

I wonder why did you ignore the situation in Orissa in the article. --Avinesh Jose (talk) 07:18, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

I did not ignored it, I missed it. This fact will mentioned.Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 07:21, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Many unnecessary edit war happening on the article as you can see in the history, which makes hesitant users. Anyhow, you just carryon, let me join shortly. And one more thing that if you could alter the search keywords in google for more supportive news links. Thanks. --Avinesh Jose (talk) 08:11, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

RE:Wikipedia:WikiProject New page

Sounds like a great idea, and i would be willing to help out with what ever needs to be done. But, be careful about spamming users talk pages as you may find yourself in a bit of trouble. Cheers! Tiptoety talk 08:02, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

User talk:Bardeep2

Just a quickie note - It is up to the user what goes on their page. If they add an insult, just blank it. Infuriating as this editor is, it is their right. However, I suspect it won't be long before he gets himself blosked, not if he carries on the way he is vandalising our pages. Cheers for correcting his edits, BTW :-) StephenBuxton (talk) 18:21, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

your r everts of TestDriver's work on the supercheats page

OK i am meaning no disrespect to your job and what you do . but . the user known as TestDriver was just improving the vocab and grammar of said page and was not i repeat was not vandilising the page . i personally asked him in said site to help us with this article by improving first the grammar . and also help us get independent resources and to help it comply with the standards. the reason i did this is because i fail to have the grammar capabilities do do said task .

respectfully

Neptis (talk) 19:51, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

CPM

It is probably best to ignore the anon IP for the time being. They cannot do anything to the article while it is semi-protected and it appears they are not willing to engage in a civil and reasonable debate. As such, the best policy is probably to ignore them until they have calmed down.--Conjoiner (talk) 15:21, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Excuse me

Hello, I'm Humpty Dumpty secretary. Would you tell me WHy did you remove my edit on Tamil Eelam? I edited only (+ja)link. What's my mistake?--Humpty Dumpty secretary (talk) 10:32, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

  • Sorry, I'm speaking english so litte. Your question, why I think correct for my edit? or You say, I need explain my edit in edit summmary? I wrote +ja, so Is it inadequateness? why do you think vandalism my edit?--Humpty Dumpty secretary (talk) 11:24, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Ok, thanks a lot. actually, there are same case on my meta wiki edited. Will the my name be bad?（－ω－；）you know, my skill is low level so I didn't mean more edit briefly. only link. It was relieve, becouse no my mistake.Do you mind if I remove your edit on Tamil Eelam?--Humpty Dumpty secretary (talk) 12:05, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
  • (report) I revised and explain in edit summmary. It's solve so User:Humpty Dumpty secretary(talk) revised revision of User:Otolemur crassicaudatus(talk) again. Thank you for everything.--Humpty Dumpty secretary (talk) 16:07, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Please review Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bunscoill Gaelgagh

Hello, please review the AFD for Bunscoill Gaelgagh. It seems likely that you may change your mind on your !vote. Thanks, JERRY talk contribs 01:06, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

User talk:SHOUT357437943

Hi there - just to let you know I reverted your vand4 warning to the above user. They've only vandalised twice, and I've given them vand2 and vand3 respectively. Any further vandalism would warrant a vand4, but I don't think it's warranted just yet. Thanks! Giles Bennett (Talk, Contribs) 15:57, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

ANI

[1]. Care to comment?Ghanadar galpa (talk) 12:12, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

or here [2] Ghanadar galpa (talk) 12:45, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

A new user appears out of thin air

There is a new guy, [3] who has appeared and joined User:Soman and User:Conjoiner in blanking text on CPI(M) critical of them. A well-coordinated team of three CPI(M) edit-cabal will game the WP:3RR system and Disrupt wikipedia to make a point. I will keep out of the talk page for a day or so to calm down. However, I suspect that the Communists will not.Ghanadar galpa (talk) 15:09, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Lemonade day

I have salted the article title, so this should solve the problem. Contact me if the user persists. Caknuck (talk) 17:55, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Burma

Do you have any idea how much is missing? It is more important that the main towns and cities are set up first. There are over 35,000 settlements in the country alone ! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 18:50, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Well they are missing parts of the jigsaw so to speak. Many stubs are expanded into fuller articles on a daily basis and there are editors who go through project categories aiming to expand articles fully but I agree ,ost often it takes time to build. Given that something like 80% of articles on wikipedia are still stubs it just goes to show how much work is needed to develop this fully and evenly. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 18:59, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Las Vegas (TV series)

Your edits were also reverted. I'm bordering on 3RR on that article, could you revert the revert of the revert. Thank you. KellyAna (talk) 18:58, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Wood Street, Cardiff

He's entitled to do that, it says in the small print. (Weary sigh) Hi-ho, hi-ho, it's off to AfD we go. JohnCD (talk) 19:42, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Phil DeLara

Woo, that was fast! You deleted my article on Phil DeLara few seconds after I created it. I understand you need to make sure the subject is notable, but could you put it online again and give me around 30 mins. so that I can add references? Then you can decide if you want to keep it or not. Thanks. Herve661 (talk) 19:44, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

...for the revert on my talk page the other day. Jauerback (talk) 23:51, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Your VandalProof Application

Thank you for your interest in VandalProof, Otolemur crassicaudatus. As you may know, VP is a very powerful program, and in fact the just released 1.3 version has even more power. Because of this we must uphold strict protocols before approving a new applicant. Regretfully, I have chosen to decline your application at this time. Please note it is nothing personal by any means, and we certainly welcome you to apply again soon. Thank again for your interest in VandalProof. βcommand 13:59, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Re:Future Timeline of Earth

Hi. Thank you for your offer. I have already started working on it, and will try to work on it more later. Remember that the events are predicted to take place in the future, and any number of varible factors could cause it to happen earlier or later, to a higher or lower degree, or even not happen at all. So, I've reworded a couple of sentences to make them less crystal ball-like. I think the article still needs a little more work, but when that happens it could make a very valuable article. Remember the future is a very complicated subject: anything can happen, there are many things that can happen, and the predicted events can all influence each other. I may also be able to help on the areas regarding population, global warming, and also add more predicted events to the article. We can also use some of the important events listed in the years' articles that influence Earth greatly. Also see my comment on the talkpage. I'll see what I can do. Thanks. ~AH1(TCU) 18:30, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Re:Your message

Hi there and thanks for your message. I shall take a look at the article and help to ensure a thoroughly neutral approach. Green Giant (talk) 14:39, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Rudget!

Dear Otolemur crassicaudatus, my sincere thanks for your support in my second request for adminship, which ended with 113 supports, 11 opposes, and 4 neutral. I would especially like to thank my admin coach and nominator, Rlevse and Ryan Postlethwaite who in addition to Ioeth all inspired me to run for a second candidacy. I would also like to make a special mention to Phoenix-wiki, Dihyrdogen Monoxide and OhanaUnited who all offered to do co-nominations, but I unfortunately had to decline. I had all these funny ideas that it would fail again, and I was prepared for the worst, but at least it showed that the community really does have something other places don't. Who would have though Gmail would have been so effective? 32 emails in one week! (Even if it does classify some as junk :P) I'm glad that I've been appointed after a nail biting and some might call, decision changing RFA, but if you ever need anything, just get in touch. The very best of luck for 2008 and beyond, Rudget. 16:20, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

user:PrivateSnipers userbox

Hi, I noticed you placed a speedy deletion tag on a userbox created by user:PrivateSniper. I don't think the user intentionaly littered mainspace with the userbox, so I moved it to his userspace. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 19:22, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

AutoWikiBrowser

Hi,

I have approved you for AutoWikiBrowser. You can download it from here. Good luck!   jj137 ♠ 17:51, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

re POV articles

In reply to your note on my talkpage, I agree that Muslim population growth in India is Indeed POV and have voted for its deletion.

Pahari Sahib 06:16, 20 January 2008 (GMT)

User:Fcukmeimhot

Hi You warned this user about WP:V a few weeks ago. The seem to be at it again, albeit with a little more subtlety. I have reverted their edit to Gatwick but I am not very hot on vandalism and stuff. I wonder would you take on the warnings and stuff? I also wondered if the username might not be inappropriate? MurphiaMan (talk) 12:29, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Road

Keeping mind we talking about the article Road not Expressways, talk to me about this edit. You removed referenced text that says there is 6,430,366 km of roads and 90,000 km of expressways in the USA, as well as other hard numbers for other countries to leave a reference that implies that because China has the second most expansive amount of expressways at 45,000 km it also has the second largest network of roadways. This is a logical fallacy, while all expressways are roads, not all roads are expressways. This is evidenced by the fact that is there are 6,430,366 km of roads there are only 90,000 km of expressways in the USA. Please respond on why you reversed my last edit. In my mind your presentation might be appropriate for Expressways but not for Road. Jeepday (talk) 23:56, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Good call on the EU/country thing, I added a couple words to clarify the standing. Jeepday (talk) 15:02, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Help desk question

Hi I have responded to your help desk question. I hope this response helped. If you need further assistance, feel free to respond at the help desk, here, or on my talk page. Best regards! --omtay38 19:05, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Religious violence

Hello Otolemur, I just wanted to cordially remind you that we must ensure our point of views do not cause conflicts on Wikipedia, as appears to be happening. To resolve this matter I want to clearly tell you my grievances as opposed to edit warring and using edit summaries. The portion I do not conform with in your edits is this:

As Hindutva ideology has grown more and more powerful over the years, its strategic use of riots to polarize religious communities has began to transform into a process of fundamentally destroying minority communities.[13] Hindutva ideology, violence is a core aspect of which[13] and which legitimates violence as patriotic response,[14] excludes other religious beliefs and fosters religious intolerance[15] and portrays violence against Muslims and Christians as a form of "self-defense".[13] Over the last decade, religious violence in India has increasingly become organized pogroms to eliminate minority communities.[13] Despite rejection of Hindutva ideology by United Progressive Alliance (UPA) led National Government, Hindutva has influence in government policies.[3] Some state governments in India have been accused of not effectively prosecuting those who attack religious minorities.[3]

First of all, I think the entire problem is about your knowledge or perception of Hindutva ideology itself. I admit there are some Hindutvavaadis who are violent in nature and hot-headed to the point that they murder others, blackening the name of Hindutva in the process. I think to some it is unfortunately these people who are the stereotypical Hindutvavaadi. In the first sentence you imply that the religious violence in modern India is due to the strategic use of riots by a stronger Hindutva group. I would like to remind you that riots were much worse in India before Hindutva was founded. It is labelling one group for the actions of many, which is unfair.

Your second sentence states quite blatantly and offensively that violence is a core aspect of Hindutva. I think this is rubbish and, pardon me, but bleeds of ignorance. Instead of quoting Marxist papers on what Hindutva stands for, there are numerous philosophy documents which you could peruse and take as a primary source of what Hindutva stands for. Hindutva essentially is a Hindu cultural awakening (or jagritri), aiming to define and stand for a Hindu culture. True Hindutvavaadis see everyone who treats India as their matrabhoomi and pitribhoomi as effectively Hindus. Most of the time, this automatically includes most Indians and almost all Hindus, Sikhs, Jains, Zoroastrians and Buddhists in India. This is a quote from a Hindutva RSS philosophy paper:

The RSS entirely agrees with Gandhiji's formulations that "There is in Hinduism room enough for Jesus, as there is for Mohammed, Zoroster and Moses"

The RSS also believes that the fabric of Hindu society was its religious tolerance.

The final part of your edits which concerns me is the second last sentence, alleging that these Hindu extremists hold sway in politics although the UPA government soundly rejects them. Well this is completely ignoring the fact that the BJP was in government for 6 years prior to the current UPA government. It is safe to say that at that time a majority of Indians were in support of the BJP. Now you can't say that all of these Indians were Hindu fanatics!

I think the history section should contain details of pre-partition incidents and an overview of how religious violence occurs in modern India, as opposed to labelling one group and one group only. Nowhere in your paragraph is it mentioned Goan seperatism, Tripuran speratism, Punjabi seperatism and nowhere is terrorism mentioned. No, it is solely based on Hindutva, which despite its darkened past is essentially a cultural movement. I don't deny that Hindus have committed evils, and I will let you mention organizations like the Shiv Sena and Bajrang Dal which seem to be into the violent acts quite a bit, but you should be more rounded.

Hope I have begun a fruitful discussion. Regards.

Darrowen (talk) 23:23, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

I took my precedent from your adding of the Graham Staines incident, surely both are religiously-motivated murders and should be treated equally. Darrowen (talk) 00:08, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
What about notable incidents during the Gujarat violence? Anti-Sikh riots? Darrowen (talk) 23:30, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
I have asked the admin Ragib his opinion. If he disagrees with me then I will cease to edit war. Darrowen (talk) 22:49, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Hello. Let's move this discussion to Talk:Religious violence in India where I am hoping for some third opinions on the issue. Thanks. Darrowen (talk) 21:45, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

The Group (novel)

Hey there. I noticed that I had just saved the first pass at my new article on the American novel with the edit summary "start, needs cats, etc" when you tagged it as unreferenced and uncategorized. (In fact the edit histories have us saving at the same time) I'd like to point out that this sort of aggressive tagging can sometimes be interpreted by new users as unwelcoming. Fortunately, I'm far from a new user and I'm comfortable that my contributions are welcome. But in the future perhaps you could a) wait, maybe a minute or two before tagging someone's new article as uncategorized b)add the missing category which takes about as much time as tagging. I'm removing your tags as I am still working on the article and don't at present, need reminding about things like refs & cats. Cheers. Dina (talk) 15:53, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Reverting

I see that you are engaged in reverting. Advice: please note the 3rr rule. If you violate it you will be blocked. Also, note that you may be blocked even if you don't violate that rule.

The best option in disputes is discuss on talk page. See also Wikipedia:Dispute resolution.Bless sins (talk) 00:42, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

The Original Barnstar

The Original Barnstar
To applaud you on your efforts on various region-based articles and your ability on establishing articles from scratch and making a strong collaboration of knowledge. Darrowen (talk) 22:05, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

I saw some of the articles you have created which are listed on your userpage. You've done a very good job on many of them. Darrowen (talk) 22:05, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Poverty in India

I think its a good thing that the page was protected. This user always wants to have things his way and always seems to have problems with other people on other projects, and nearly 100% of the time the arguments are over images. This seem to happen quite often. I think the image in question was rather moving and suitable for the that article, maybe Nikkul thought that it was degrading for Indian people, I don't think it is, its only portraying poverty. This user has had problems before http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Nikkul . Cheers_Ad@m.J.W.C. (talk) 22:32, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

There voting for the beggar image, you may want to put you name down. Cheers_Ad@m.J.W.C. (talk) 04:55, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Hey have a look at this He (Nikkul) has notified atleast thirty other editors about this beggar image. It must be really important for him to have this removed, this is rather strange indeed. I would would simply move onto something else. "Unbelievable". Cheers_Ad@m.J.W.C. (talk) 05:14, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

User:Nikkul / Poverty in India

Nikkul has placed a comment on my talk page regarding an image dispute on the Poverty in India article. I've had no involvement in Indian articles (other than routine vandalism reversion stuff) nor anything to do with this editor in the past. He seems quite keen that I express an opinion.

Is there anything I should know about this issue and/or user? I'm inclined to have nothing to do with it and leave the matter to those with an interest in Indian articles.

Best regards, Xdenizen (talk) 03:39, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

I think Nikkul wants you to vote for a certain image to be added and another removed from an article, maybe he wants you to side with him. Cheers_Ad@m.J.W.C. (talk) 04:53, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

re:what should I do now

I am not quite sure about this, I just thought this was being taken to far. I think the image looks good in the article and suites it at that. If you think you can get people to side with you, inform them. All I wanted to do was reformat the article a bit and have the image remain. Cheers_Ad@m.J.W.C. (talk) 05:21, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

If he photo is removed, just weight a month or so then re insert it, if it is removed again then do one revert per day after that, I don't think you would be breaking any law by doing so. I could step in as well. Cheers_Ad@m.J.W.C. (talk) 10:18, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Re: Poverty in India

Hi Otolemur. This issue seems to have flared up a fair bit. Anyway, I have no objection to the disabled beggar image being on the page. If this problem isn't resolved soon, a compromise can be made by placing the image lower down in the article, perhaps in a more specific section such as "Beggars in India." You can then add a more general image of poverty at the top, except I admit it is very difficult to find an image representative of all types of poverty in India.

My understanding of images on Wikipedia is that they are often examples of particular aspects of the topic being discussed, not necessarily representing the entire topic, especially when there is no image that represents the entire topic. My experience on the main India page showed that Nikkul believes otherwise. There was a huge debate regarding whether an image of the tribal Toda Hut was suitable on the article. User:Fowler&Fowler, and others including myself argued that because there was no other image on Rural India (70% of pop.) or Tribal India (8.1%) and the fact that the Toda Hut image was very beautiful, it was a perfect image to showcase both of these crucial aspects of India and its culture. Others, of which Nikkul was most vocal, claimed that the Todas only represent 0.001% of India's population and so more "mainstream" images that do "represent" Indian culture, should be added, like the Taj Mahal and a portrait of Rabindranath Tagore. At the time, there were images like the peacock, which is only one species out of many birds in India and so doesn't represent the birds of India as well as a Bengali tiger and Dalal Street, which was supposed to "represent" all of the Indian economy.

Would it suprise you that most of those supporting Nikkul's side were from the Metros? Mumbai, Chennai, Bangalore, Delhi etc. This is probably why folk, tribal and rural culture and negative sentences on India are kept to an absolute minimum on the page despite Fowler&fowler's efforts. GizzaDiscuss © 01:10, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes I am all for that, it was my mistake adding the photo to the top of the article, at the time I thought that this may have been appropriate but now realize that I am wrong. I may even look into writing a section about poverty and disability in India and include this photo in it but only with references. The fact that Nikkul has received much support over this is because he notified about thirty or so other editors that he knew would probably side with him over this, when we actually informed no one. I would have no hesitation in adding a picture of the Australian equivalent to an Aussie article but I just can't find the motivation to go out and take the pics. If I am in the city of Sydney with a camera one day and I come across this I'll take a snap. Cheers_Ad@m.J.W.C. (talk) 02:03, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, we also need to create "Poverty in" articles for every country because it is an important topic, for both third-world and first-world nations. I wonder how a homeless man in Hyde Park would react, if a photo was taken of him, uploaded onto Wikipedia, and then he saw it years later. GizzaDiscuss © 23:18, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
With most of the homeless people that I have seen, and I have seen quite a lot in Sydney. I doubt that any of them could even use the internet and even if they did see the photo they wouldn't really know what was going on anyway. A lot of the homeless people that I see in Sydney or Hyde Park, Sydney all walk around like zombies. The guy in the India photo might be disabled but still sane. Cheers_Ad@m.J.W.C. (talk) 23:43, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

(Sorry OC for taking up space on your talk page) Well I know of a couple of homeless alcoholics and drug addicts in Sydney who recovered thanks to help from charities. These were the people who I had in mind when I made that comment. :p GizzaDiscuss © 00:14, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

re:poverty

Hi and thanks for your comments on my talk page. I had a quick look at the poverty article, I think Nikkul may have added one picture, I think. The picture might be okay as long as he doesn't go overboard by removing other images to replace with his own. I think that what is in the article now is fine, we also need to be carefull and not start any edit wars or step on any toes especially after what happened with the Poverty in India article. Be cool and don't stress out. If we cause stress and tension we will only make editors more stubborn and less willing to negotiate. Cheers_Ad@m.J.W.C. (talk) 09:54, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Just got your second message and noticed you changed the photo. If it gets changes back try not to stress out. Sit back for a while and don't be to quick with the revert button either. First you may wish to talk it out. If this doesn't work leave it for a while then change it, or add the other picture of you choice in a different section. Cheers_Ad@m.J.W.C. (talk) 09:58, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Problematic user

The problematic user is back at it again and seems to be the only one that wants that photo removed, could you have a look. You should also put you image back, you know the one that you informed me of yesterday. Cheers_Ad@m.J.W.C. (talk) 06:23, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar award

The Society Barnstar
I award thee Otolemur crassicaudatus with this Full Order Barnstar to commemorate your outstanding commitment to creating and improving many Indian social and political related-articles. Blue Recon Team Out! 20:21, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Grrrlriot (talk) has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

  • I have left some comments on my talk page that you may have an interest in . Cheers_Ad@m.J.W.C. (talk) 04:02, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

re:pov in India

Yes this does seem true, I do think in some cases that he does mean well. It might be a case of lack of judgment or just favoritism in trying to get his photos into articles. I noticed that he deleted a tourism section from Beijing [4], this should probably be looked into as a small section could be added with a link to the main article. He also unarchived the Talk:poverty in India article, which I archived to make further discussions easier to find. This guy is .................... (you will have to guess) and does not work well with other people, he also has a bad history of sock puppetry [5], one of his sock puppets goes by the name of commons:User:Indianhilbilly in which he has the same account on commons and not just this he goes by the name of commons:User:Nikkul on the same project, so he is still using sock puppets over there. He might be disruptive and a pain in the but to some, but he is not a full on vandal so for the time being I don't think there is anything that we can do about him. But we will keep watch, one day he will step out of line and we will be there. Cheers_Ad@m.J.W.C. (talk) 23:32, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you



My RfA
Thank you very much for your support in my RfA which I really appreciate. It closed at 83/0/0. I was surprised by the unanimity and will do my best to live up to the new role. All the best, --ROGER DAVIES talk 16:49, 5 February 2008 (UTC)


The patio at the Partal Palace in the Alhambra, Andalucia.

Gujarat section of HRW crit article

I essentially agree with you completely and have been leaving the section because of other editors' concerns. When I found that Arvin Bahl was an investment banker with a Bacherlor's degree in Business, this became even more clear to me. I was trying to add content to balance the section, but would also favor its deletion. --68.23.10.26 (talk) 14:07, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

I removed the section as we appear to be in agreement, while the editor who made the contributions appears to have been a sockpuppet/sockpuppeteer.. --68.23.10.26 (talk) 14:14, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

RV in India

Thanks for your note. Your rewrite seems useful, though I haven't had a close look yet. The paragraph your particularly mentioned seems OK, though some of the statements were sourced to a report that might be challenged as an unreliable source. I've made some changes in keeping with that concern. Hope to see you back here soon. Relata refero (talk) 11:36, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the recognition, it makes taking and adding photos more worth the effort, when I get a chance I will add the barnster to My user page. I may have a few more pics coming along soon. I am trying to work out how to use the stitching program, I managed to fluke one good pic for the Manly, New South Wales article, check it out, its the wide pic near the bottom. I have also found other uses for the beggar image, shhhhhh. Cheers_Ad@m.J.W.C. (talk) 11:43, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

A few new pics that may be of interest

Thanks

Thanks for your appreciation. I moved this honor to my user page. --Avinesh Jose  T  04:59, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Because...

[6] - I'm expanding the article, and seeking to avoid spacial conflict and white space. The more important question is why not? Also, as there are no villages in the geocompass, why the revert to reinclude this? Do you think your edit summary was wholly appropriate? -- Jza84 · (talk) 17:08, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

crticism is not anti

So you're saying the Ant-X religion topics more properly belong in something like Category:Opposition to religion. -- Kendrick7talk 18:28, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

I can see your argument that there's a lot of overlap between criticism of, opposition to, and persecution of religion, but they seem to be different enough for a separate category. -- Kendrick7talk 21:15, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
I disagree. You can oppose a religion without persecuting it's members, obviously. -- Kendrick7talk 21:19, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
(sigh) I disagree. You can oppose a religion without discrimiating against its members, obviously. -- Kendrick7talk 21:23, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
In any case, I've made Category:Religious discrimination a redir to Category:Religious persecution. Anyway, if what I'm saying above isn't obvious to you, it should be clear that POVs about religions parallel POVs about political thought. E.g. someone who is anti-capitalist doesn't necessarily discriminate against or persecute capitalists. -- Kendrick7talk 21:38, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Wait -- so you see a difference between persecution and discrimation? Seem like the same thing to me -- Kendrick7talk 05:57, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

OK makes sense. I have no problem splitting hairs here. I hope you are assenting to my argument above regarding a sort of generic opposition? -- Kendrick7talk 06:09, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for participating in my RfA! It was closed as successful with 58 supporting, 0 opposing, and 2 neutral. I hope to demonstrate that your trust in me is rightly placed and am always open to critiques and suggestions. Cheers. MBisanz talk 03:59, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Best pic I've seen

MfDs

Um... what the heck are you doing? -- Ned Scott 08:00, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Stop nominating these for deletion. These are boxes that users keep around for fun. -- Ned Scott 08:03, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Please go read WP:GUS. -- Ned Scott 08:07, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
As long as it's not offensive, and it's in the userspace, then most people don't really care. -- Ned Scott 08:12, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

You seriously need to stop. -- Ned Scott 08:44, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

You just nominated a userbox that over a thousand users use. You clearly don't understand the line of what is acceptable and what isn't acceptable for userboxes, and you really need to become more familiar with this before making more pointless XfDs. -- Ned Scott 08:50, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

re: ?

Other accounts are unknown, but judging from the account's contrib history, it's blatantly obvious. There's no merit to a sockpuppetry case but Twinkle automatically creates the page when filing a sockpuppet report (which I did) to AIV. User:Dorftrottel 16:57, February 16, 2008

Biological warfare

I'm limited in how much I can do, since many of my hard copy references are in storage, and, in some cases, my knowledge comes from personal exposure to the field, which has no ready sourcing.

Kimsoft can have interesting material, but my experience is that it's excellent practice to seek confirmation for anything found there.

Howard C. Berkowitz (talk) 17:11, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

France stubs

Uh... yes. Thats what I mean. Yes. I couldn;t imagine 36,000 french stubs stub sorting was done long ago. France is pretty huge and many of these places have their own large churches etc. Hopefully they will be expanded in the near future. There is a current drive to complete them all and then add an infobox to every one but its quicker this way given the enormous number of places. Regards ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 18:50, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

tags

I often - at least whenever I'm bored and haven't got an article to work on - remove old and/or unnecessary (IMHO) tags from articles because I hate the stupid things and think they are more of an obstacle to improvement than a help. People slap them down and move on instead of editing and think they've done good; without those things, their annoyance might lead them to actually "help" instead of just saying "hey - somebody help do this".

Worse, take the editing role and slap the reader in the face with it, thus interfering with the function of wikipedia as a place where people can come to fine information (without first having to wade through our internal workings). Unless a "nag box" is needed to *warn* readers about an article (NPOV) or inform them of functionality (locked) they are the wrong solution in the wrong place - particularly tags covering minor style ones like how footnotes are set up.

In my opinion, anyway. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 21:56, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

But I believe that certain tags (e.g., the one that says URLs should be turned into footnotes) are inappropriate and should be killed on sight, like bedbugs, regardless of whether the "problem" is solved or not. They are worse than the issue they address. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 22:21, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: User:Dfb9001

Just in case you hadn't seen it, I've replied to your message on my talk page. ~~ [Jam][talk] 05:01, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Disaster differences

OC...we can discuss our differences on the list's talk page for everyone to see. :) I put explanations of my changes there, and you can always comment. I would like to see what you think but would like it to be shared with others who also may find renewed interest. I eagerly wait for your comments. - LA @ 08:14, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: ??

I was deleting old user page redirects of IP addresses under WP:CSD#U2. Cheers. --MZMcBride (talk) 15:01, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/West Midlands Bus Route 302

Mind if I tag this for speedy deletion (G7 -- author request), since you created it in error? Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 18:55, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Tommy Kirkham

I noticed you have tagged this article for an expansion and a clean-up. Could you please add your concerns to the article's talk page or here and I will endeavour to address them. As it is, I'm not sure what the problem is and so can do little about it. Keresaspa (talk) 16:38, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

  • OK, I've given the article the once over. I'll need to research the details of his initial split from the UPRG at another time and I've removed the dodgy sentence. If you have any other issues let me know, although by all means make some changes yourself if there's anything particularly bugging you. Keresaspa (talk) 17:22, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Countries that recognize independent Kosovo

That is correct English. Saying "recognized":

a) Sounds funny.

b) Can be taken to mean that they previously recognized Kosovo, but have now changed their mind and retracted their recognition.

OK? Thanks. --RenniePet (talk) 18:09, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Reversion - thanks

Thank you for removing that particularly charming comment from my talk page - goodness knows what I did to rattle Meggerclaud's cage but he's obviously taken it hard! Thanks again, kind regards, nancy (talk) 15:44, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Suggestions welcome

Any specific suggestions as to why the article needs cleanup and wikification? Best wishes, --RobertG ♬ talk 21:18, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Philippine Star

I removed the advert tag because there are no advertising claims there that aren't sourced. If it needs sources then add a ref tag on it or better yet help me fix the article rather than blindly reverting me.--Lenticel (talk) 22:22, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Then remove it--Lenticel (talk) 22:26, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

FP noms

Hello, I am writing re: your many recent nominations at WP:FPC. Very few of them have significant chances of attaining featured status. I would suggest you hang out at the FP nomination page for a while, but hold off on new nominations for a few days, so that you can get a better sense of what are considered viable images there. For now though, the glut of nominations is taking a lot of people's energy with little yield. Cheers. de Bivort 23:23, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

I second de's opinion. Welcome to the Featured Picture Candidates page, but please familiarize yourself with Wikipedia:Featured picture criteria. 24.174.52.29 (talk) 00:26, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
I third this motion. The FPC process is highly selective, and our notion of photographic excellence is not equivalent to those of the FP reviewers. Please familiarize with the criteria, and I suggest you consult other editors before nominating a picture again. Nishkid64 (talk) 03:46, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Response

I have respoded at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JimWae#Persecution_of_Hindus —Preceding unsigned comment added by JimWae (talk • contribs) 00:48, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Eagerbeaver434 RFCU

I saw this, and I thought I could field this question. Alison declined the CheckUser request because you have not provided enough evidence, demonstrating a similarity in edits between Hkelkar and this user. Alison is an uninvolved editor who has no history with Hkelkar (I presume). You need to explain to her what the editing similarities are between Hkelkar and Eagerbeaver434, and show relevant diffs (you only provided 5 diffs, and an outsider who doesn't know what pro-Hindu POV is wouldn't know what the heck you're talking about). Also, from my experiences, I can tell you that this is definitely a sockpuppet, most probably belonging to Hkelkar. Hope that answers your question. Nishkid64 (talk) 07:35, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Notification

Thank you for the AFD notification, but please note that I did not create the American Identity article! I think that the User you are looking for is in fact a one-off ip address: User:24.116.60.250. In such circumstances you do not need to take it to AFD but simple redirect as was the outcome of the original RFD. --Mais oui! (talk) 09:05, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Casseva Deletion

Hi I am not sure why the Wiki article Casseva is up for deletion, I have tried to adhere to all the guidelines! Could you please tell me exactly what is not right with it?

Regards —Preceding unsigned comment added by Karl Joseph (talk • contribs) 10:18, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Just a pointer....

Hey, I see your doing a grand job on the AFD's, but you may want to think about using speedy deletion tags in certain cases i.e. Beauty Killer would be a classic {{db-repost}}. I'm going to leave it up there now, but I wouldn't be surprised if it gets a speedy close. Looking through some of the others, there are a few {{db-band}}'s there as well. Any questions don't hesitate to give me a shout & keep up the work. All the best Khukri 10:52, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Brynjar Aa

Hi thanks for informing me. I think it was created when I was going through a missing list beginning with aa. There isn't practically any web info on him I agree but that isn't the first time google hasn;t come up with the goods. I've asked Punkmorten if he has any idea of notability and if any of the libraries in Norway would have anything on him. I;m certain alot could be written about him using a Norwegian source but as it is it isn't very useful. I'd hoped it would have been expanded by now but I've noticed most of the Norwegian articles are still stubs sub stubs even because very few people can translate from Norwegian. So if we could wait until he replies. Thanks ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 13:36, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh wait a minute. I;ve found that if you type in Brynjar Å a lot more comes up. This could easily be translated from Norwegian ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 13:38, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Given that there are Norwegian sources available I;ll ask around the Norwegian wiki group see if anybody can expand it ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 13:49, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

I have proposed some kind of Wiki Translation - for the wikimedia project to venture into free translation in tens of languages. As yet Jimbo hasn't responded to me, but for me inability to translate from the less common language sis one of the biggest obstacles to universal information on wikipedia. I;m think ing about making a formal proposal. I strongly think the wiki project needs to do something about developing this as an educational tool —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blofeld of SPECTRE (talk • contribs) 14:47, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

re:UMA

I see that! :) I'll try to merge the nominations. Mr Senseless (talk) 16:41, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Resolved
All merged! Mr Senseless (talk) 16:47, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Fabio Mastrangelo Deletion

To Whom It May Concern: I am obviously a first timer at this. I am not even sure I am posting my question in the right place. However, hoping this is the right place, I would like to enquire as to why the article "Fabio mastrangelo (sic!)" - should be Mastrangelo - despite a severe attempt to make it adhere to wikipedia principles is up for deletion? I would be really interested in finding out what it needs to be considered viable. Thanking you in advance,

Fabio —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fabio mastrangelo (talk • contribs) 10:24, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

New pages

Hi if you are not aware there is a marked this page as patrolled button on new articles. Could you please ensure you hit this to save another editor wasting time going to it thanks. BigDunc (talk) 15:46, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Marika Michalowska

Noticed you patrolled and edited this page. Do you think the subject of this article is truly notable enough for inclusion in Wikipedia? I'd like a second opinion, and your reasoning. Thanks.--h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 17:31, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

there is a ref for her as " "second best DJ in Poland"" which is an assertion of notability. I doubt it would count for muchat AfD, but it does prevent speedy.DGG (talk) 17:36, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Up for AfD. You might want to join the debate.--h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 17:43, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

football players

The Malaysian players you been speedying seem to have played for the highest ranking league in the country -- please check things like this first--because that counts as notability. DGG (talk) 17:35, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

no context

Hi. I just wanted to bring to your attention that Wikipedia:CSD#A1 is for articles that do not give sufficient context for the subject to be identified. While the current article on Olympia High School (Illinois) is probably too brief to stand as a separate article, its context is clear. Also, I see that you tagged the article within the minute it was created. Please note that the WP:CSD policy indicates that "Contributors sometimes create articles over several edits, so try to avoid deleting a page too soon after its creation if it appears incomplete." It's better to give them a few minutes to develop the articles before potentially scaring them off, although maintenance tags may provide useful pointers. :) I've encountered many good tags from you, but did want to note the specifics of this one and to encourage you to leave incomplete articles until the creators have had a little time to do something with them, unless, of course, their problem is not simply related to the quantity of information. Thanks. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 18:58, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Russian crime

Hi. I don't think it matters too much as long as it is consistent. As the article is titled Crime in ... I personally would be entitled to go with the second suggestion and begin them e.g Crime in Russia is present .... ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 12:53, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Reference.

I assure you it is page 408, and there are additional references supporting the statements within the social science related book.KBN (talk) 12:40, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Otolemur crassicaudatus/Recent changes -> User:Otolemur crassicaudatus/Recent changes

I moved the page you created to your userspace; I assume you just forgot to place the User prefix before the page's name. --Kakofonous (talk) 16:30, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

poisonink

Poisonink (talk · contribs) added many of those uncited In other media sections. This is one of many accounts (most of which are now blocked) that are summarily removing notability tags form D&D articles. If he wants that added, he needs to cite it. Cheers, Jack Merridew 09:47, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

<shrugs shoulders, wry grin>

Bexley_North,_New_South_Wales#Notable_Former_Residents. --Shirt58 (talk) 10:43, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

bbsbb

I don't actually do any work on that project do you have an email address in your preferences, this way I could send you private emails. Cheers_Ad@m.J.W.C. (talk) 13:32, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

I have seen the other picture and I thinks its pretty good compared with the original. Cheers_Ad@m.J.W.C. (talk) 13:37, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

A vote "for" your picture

Sorry, I got around to this late, and I do understand that you have lost interest in the Poverty in India discussion, but I thought I'd let you know that I've voted "for" your image. Regards, Fowler&fowler«Talk» 21:38, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Stubs need sources too

WP:V does not contain exceptions for stubs. If you have references for the article, please provide them so the article may be improved. If you do not have references, please leave the tag visible so that people who patrol the relevent cleanup categories may add the references as needed. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 18:33, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Thomas Dunn English

To answer your question: "Why?" According to WikiPolicy, images of people are placed to look into the article (with the typical exception of the main image, which is always in the upper right corner). Check out the portraits line in the manual of style at the Manual of Style (just do a find function for portrait). --Midnightdreary (talk) 18:40, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Interesting article

Hi, I was browsing around on another project and came across this section in one of the articles [7]. You may want to consider using the other image in some of the other articles that you place one of the others in. Cheers . --User:Adam.J.W.C. (talk) 00:19, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Just got your message, with those images you actually have two options first of all there is the original which is two legged and another image that I uploaded separately which is multiple legged. So you can revert the other back to its original format and use that where appropriate and use the other for spidy and India where it currently resides. Cheers. --User:Adam.J.W.C. (talk) 09:25, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Barksdale AFB

Thank you very much for the editing tags you added. I'm not yet finished with the rewriting of the article and I'll address the tags once I get to the point where I go back and add the links, et. al..

Take care and thank you again :))

Bwmoll3 (talk) 16:34, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Indiana citations needed

Are you serious? You need a citation that Evansville is in the southwestern corner of the state, that it's in the tri-state area, that those suburbs are in the Louisville metro, that Vincennes is on the Wabash, etc.? Why on earth would those things need citations? They're simple uncontroversial facts, that can be verified by simply casting ones eye on a map. That sort of thing does not need to be sourced. -- Zsero (talk) 06:50, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

You are wrong - only "material that is challenged or likely to be challenged needs a reliable, published source". And that doesn't mean that someone tendentiously challenges it just to make people go scrambling for a source. The challenger must honestly doubt the truth of the statement. Any statement that you have no doubt is true, you are not entitled to challenge. So please go back and pick out which statements you really need sources for, and remove the other tags you placed. -- Zsero (talk) 07:01, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
On second thought, that shouldn't need a cite either, since it's wikilinked to its own article. If the reader here wants more information about the forest he should go to its article and read about it. If a cite for its size is needed, it should be on that article, not this one. -- Zsero (talk) 07:15, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
We don't need a cite for the area of the whole state, do we? I've checked several countries and states at random (Luxembourg, Germany, Vanuatu, El Salvador, New Jersey), and none give a source for their area. Unless there's some reason to doubt the statement, leave it. If you really really need a cite for it, put the cn-tag in the main article - so long as it's not sourced there (and right now it isn't) it doesn't need to be here. -- Zsero (talk) 07:37, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
PS: I'm off to bed now, so any futher answer will come in the morning. -- Zsero (talk) 07:38, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Austin Ardill

Why did you revert Category:British Army officers from this biography? He was a captain who won an MC in World War II as is stated in the article Kernel Saunters (talk) 11:18, 28 February 2008 (UTC) [look medals] Kernel Saunters (talk) 11:20, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Another one over there

I also wrote this over there using a few http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Unsexopedia. --User:Adam.J.W.C. (talk) (talk) (talk) 11:32, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Look at the racist vandalism that Nikkul did to this users user page http://uncyclopedia.org/index.php?title=User:Beer_Barrals_Should_be_bigger&oldid=2822812

Milton Blain

Hi. I notice that you disagree with me on linking to civil engineer in the Milton Blain article. I don't see why you feel that it is overlinking. Anyone with an interest in Milton Blain will probably want to know what a civil engineer does, if they don't know already. As such, wikilinking his profession, to me, seems much more necessary than wikilinking say, town names in the article. Not to say that these shouldn't be linked, I think they should, but IMO the link to civil engineer would be the most important link in the article. I will not get into an edit war, however, so let's discuss it. If we disagree, we can move the discussion to the article talk page and see if other opinions surface. -Lilac Soul (talk • contribs • count) • I'm watching this page so just reply to me right here! 13:17, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined

Regarding the page Alex McAvoy, which you tagged for speedy deletion on the basis of WP:CSD#A7, I wanted you to know that I have removed the speedy deletion tag. This page does not qualify for speedy deletion because there is sufficient evidence of notability. If you still want the page to be deleted, please use the WP:AFD process. Thanks! —  Tivedshambo  (t|c) 19:20, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Reverting blanking of attack pages.

Re [8]. When someone tries to blank vandalism (even their own), don't revert - remove the parts not allowed, keeping e.g. delete notices. Warning for vandalism is fine, warnings for the trying to delete the vandalism (including incorrectly the speedy deletion notices) is not. -- Jeandré, 2008-02-29t11:50z

Follow up - in the above situation, where the author blanks the page completely and the only other change is adding the csd tag, simply add {{db-blanked}} as an alternative speedy tag. —  Tivedshambo  (t|c) 12:02, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

AFD nomination of The Animeland (pilot)

I had to flag your nomination here as falling under the Arbcom injunction because it appears to be a TV series episode. However a number of your other nominations today appear to be addressing hoax articles. If you feel this is a hoax article, please indicate so on your nomination. If it can be proven that it's a hoax (which shouldn't be too hard) then the injunction doesn't apply. 23skidoo (talk) 22:08, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Know Check the article

Check the article fer bhonkiin, Ok. Know its not copyright violation. It was not copyrighted before OK. It is taken from free source(Kutti dea). Carrom Federation of Sri Lanka —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hpt lucky (talk • contribs) 08:57, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mark Germino

Just letting you know that I rewrote Mark Germino and added a source. The initial version was largely a copyvio of his All Music Guide bio. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 18:05, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

removing image from Troy Douglas

Hi Otolemur crassicaudatus, why ? Any image is better than none in an article. It's the only free licensed one around so it's really the only possible illustration. Pending a reason I've added it back - happy editing - Peripitus (Talk) 08:43, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Marokau - reference stutter

You seem to have a stutter - one reference repeated 3 times the same paragraph ? Perhaps you might want to undo that one - Peripitus (Talk) 10:22, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Ahhh....no..... you would do well to read through some Featured articles to see that this is not the way it's done here. Look at paragraph one of Joseph Priestley#Early life and education (1733–55). 5 sentences, 1 citation because it's all referenced by the one citation. citing per sentence is not necessary and makes the text very hard to read - Peripitus (Talk) 10:34, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
It's your writing and you can go where you wish. Just pointing out that this is not the way most articles, particularly those that get on the front page, are formatted. Please note also on an earlier article you edited today - you marked for citation the note that the atol was circular...There was already a citation for that in the article (ref 1 under the reference section) which I think you missed - Peripitus (Talk) 11:18, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Kızılören

Hi, so far I knew that unnecessary spacings among the templates could have been removed. Was I mistaken? If there are any regulations regarding this, I would rather continue accordingly. Thanks. --Chapultepec (talk) 14:45, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much. --Chapultepec (talk) 14:54, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Eritrea

Ah I noticed your help earlier with Eritrea, Thanks. I created the districts and box earlier and have been adding towns and villages along with Gash-Setit. So underdeveloped!!! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 18:10, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Morrissey

Hi, You asked for a source...Please check the edits..they were copyedits,and removing "peacock" word "successful". I didn't add in new information. Removing "peacock" words ("legendary","successful", "famous") is standard practice in Wikipedia, and follows Manual of Style guidelines. Wikipedia should state the facts and let the reader decide. THere is no need to call singers "successful" or refer to an actor as "the most talented British film actor." If this is true, then the facts (e.g., awards, positions, etc.) should speak for themselves.Nazamo (talk) 18:12, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Cayman Islands Investment Bureau

Hi! There was a small exchange between me and Theymos about this article. See here RIP-Acer (talk) 18:19, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks :) RIP-Acer (talk) 18:26, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Please don't revert my edits

I'm in the middle of making some changes to the pages and citing the sources. I had to ask someone else to get the article for me because their website doesn't work on my computer. Reverting my edits isn't helpful. Enigma msg! 22:58, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Tom Mix

An IP had changed it today from the stable wording noted as having to said to have, but the latter is weasel wording whilst the former asserts cited notability. Gwen Gale (talk) 16:34, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Baraba language

Hi again, I changed the location of the reference section as per general page format. You can have a look at the article British Museum for instance. Thanks. --Chapultepec (talk) 17:20, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply, yeah I'm trying to do my best. --Chapultepec (talk) 17:28, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

regarding stub, notability, unreferenced tags

You may want to read Wikipedia:Deletion_policy#Editing. It gives some valid alternatives to article deletion. --Rockfang (talk) 18:20, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Unsourced?

Before slandering and claiming that material is unsourced, anyone in Wikipedia has to give a chance! All material I used in Tuamotu Atolls is translated from German and French Wikipedia articles mainly. I have no idea why you are so rude. Mohonu (talk) 02:39, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

The articles on the atolls have very little reference in English. It becomes hard to find references for the articles. And it is not right to add material without proper citation. It has been discussed previously. Even Jimmy Wales said that instead of using fact tags, remove unsourced material.


[9]

However it is hard to find more references on the atolls. I think a google book search may be helpful. Or if you can find name of books, you can mention it in the articles. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 11:04, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Putting the horse before the cart

Precisely because there is Google there is no need to overwhelm the reader of Wikipedia articles with excess citations in the text. A simple google of "tuamotu-ahunui-pipi" would have led you to the German Wikipedia, among Wikipedias in many other languages. (The same thing applies for googling "ahunui-hao-commune") Regarding the Ahunui articles in those languages. I don't see such cramming of references in their articles. Only after googling and after ending up with a negative result should one conclude that it is original and/or unsourced and then add the tag.Mohonu (talk) 08:04, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

This list [10] mentions the human habitation of every atoll in the tuamotus. Manuhangi is listed as "permanently uninhabited".Mohonu (talk) 08:14, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Reverting

If you're not sure why someone's made an edit, I think the courteous thing to do is to ask them, rather than revert it with an edit summary of "Why?" ([11]) --10:59, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Hello! Glad you asked! On more advanced browsers, it means that the references are displayed in two neat parallel columns, filling the width of the screen, rather than one long column that mostly hugs the left of the screen. On less advanced browsers, it looks the same. So all gain, no loss. --Dweller (talk) 11:18, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Are you OK with me putting it back now? --Dweller (talk) 11:24, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Ace. It's particularly useful on articles with lots of references. By the time I've finished, that one will probably have 75+. --Dweller (talk) 11:27, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Sam Ybarra

Well spotted, got mixed up while assessing. Thanks :) Rockfall (talk) 11:34, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Reverting 'unreferenced' edits

Hi, I'm stumped as to why you removed the completely uncontested factoid that the tourist information center in Arad, Israel is called the Arad Visitor Center. Removal of unsourced material outright should be only when it's highly contested, and for other facts you can add the {{fact}} template. Further down, for completely harmless and uncontested facts, you may just want to bring it up on the talk page. Anyway, I have since uploaded a photograph which clearly displays what the text says. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 16:20, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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