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Draft:Cleveland Colbert

Hello! I saw your note on the Cleveland Colbert draft. I'm happy to be more specific about why I felt the sourcing was inadequate. How do you think I should go about that? An itemized list? M4V3R1CK32 (talk) 02:30, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

@M4V3R1CK32: Hi, I was surprised by your decline. Normally I would expect to see inline tags on each questionable source, if you scan down the linked page [1] you can see the inline tag options. However I am happy to discuss further with you any issues you have with sourcing. PigeonChickenFish (talk) 04:35, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
Sorry, I may not have been sufficiently clear in my note on why the draft was rejected. The draft was rejected because it did not pass WP:GNG, specifically because it does not demonstrate that there is "significant coverage" of Colbert. The sourcing, generally, is okay to use to gather facts, but does not establish notability.
I'll break down each source and why I feel they do or do not contribute to notability.
  • Milwaukee Bronzeville Histories qualifies as significant coverage. However, it is not clear that this source fully meets the standard of a reliable source. It shares a remarkable likeness to a blog and appears to be published almost entirely by a single person. Kitonga Alexander may be studying for a Ph.D. in history, but does not meet the standard of subject-matter expert as established by WP:SELFPUB.
  • Abraham Lincoln Brigade Archive is a special interest group that is hyper focused on the Brigade. This short biography does not list an author; for those reasons, I am not inclined to think of this source as reliable to the standard required to establish notability.
  • Black Milwaukee mentions Colbert only briefly over the span of two-ish paragraphs and does not constitute significant coverage.
  • The State Assembly proceedings are a primary source and as such do not contribute to notability. Further, Colbert is mentioned only briefly and this source does not constitute significant coverage.
  • Journal-Times This is plainly a trivial mention. Colbert is in the news throughout Wisconsin during this time related to this fight for the seat, but mentions of him are limited outside this event. Does not qualify for notability under WP:SUSTAINED.
  • Wisconsin Blue Book This is plainly a trivial mention of Colbert and does contribute to notability. The Blue Book is also a primary source and as such does not contribute to notability.
  • Capital Times Only a small mention of Colbert in this source, and others like it. Versions of this snippet were repeatedly published by the State Journal and other papers in the state throughout early 1943. Together, they count as a single source for the purposes of notability (see WP:NEWSORG) and do not meet the standard of "significant coverage" when taken individually or together.
So of these seven sources, in my review, only one constitutes significant coverage, and even then, I am not wholly convinced that source (Bronzeville) meets the standard of a "reliable, secondary source" required by GNG. Therefore, the draft does not meet WP:GNG and was declined accordingly.
I hope this helps explain my reasoning more clearly. Cheers, M4V3R1CK32 (talk) 22:17, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
M4V3R1CK32 Thank you, this does clarify. The topic of African American history has historically been full of bias (especially here), and I will raise my concerns on the sourcing on the draft article page - so that either you or the next reviewer can respond. PigeonChickenFish (talk) 01:02, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

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onel5969 thank you! It is very nice to hear. PigeonChickenFish (talk) 21:34, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

MOS:OL

Countries are usually not linked. Read MOS:OL. Small ones like San Marino or Andorra, or the ones which can be mistaken like Slovakia and Slovenia maybe. But Bolivia is huge compared to those. Anyway, I have noticed I also linked New York City which per MOS:OL is also debatable before it ever becomes a GA. Just wanted to let you know my rationale. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 07:48, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

Paradise Chronicle, I understand, thank you for explaining. However per MOS:OL, "A good question to ask yourself is whether reading the article you're about to link to would help someone understand the article you are linking from" and this article had specified two different countries and cultures, which in my understanding breaks the context rules. However you had untagged Bolivia but then left the Switzerland tag. Either way, I am not convinced people in Switzerland know where Bolivia is, and visa versa; I am not sure people in Switzerland know where Bolivia is. PigeonChickenFish (talk) 07:58, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

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And again, very nice job. I've written quite a few of this type of article about early western politicians (my emphasis is AZ), and this is nicely done. Do you have a subscription to Newspapers.com through WP? It's a big help on articles like this.

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Onel5969 TT me 12:59, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

@Onel5969: thank you! This was a harder subject to find information on because of his name variations. I do however have a subscription to newspapers.com through the Wikipedia Library. I appreciate you reviewing these articles. PigeonChickenFish (talk) 19:26, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Bahman Mofid

Hi. Why you changed the birth place of Bahman Mofid from Tehran to Garakan? Shkuru Afshar (talk) 07:39, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

Shkuru Afshar Tehran had no citation provided; and it looks like Garakan has a citation provided, you can see that in the edit history. Normally you would use the article talk page and supply your new supporting citations to discuss further. PigeonChickenFish (talk) 07:41, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
All Persian language references introduce Tehran as the birth place. Probably that reference is referring to his parents' decent by a mistake. Shkuru Afshar (talk) 07:43, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
Shkuru Afshar this needs to be a discussion on the article talk page - because I believe last time I checked, Wikipedia in Persian had no place of birth references shown either. Please bring these new references showing Tehran as the place of birth on the article talk page. PigeonChickenFish (talk) 07:46, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
Thank you for notifying me on the talk page :) Shkuru Afshar (talk) 07:50, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

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Autopatrolled

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S0091 ok, I will check it out. Thank you! PigeonChickenFish (talk) 21:11, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

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Draft:Alfred Douglas Price

Would you be able to help with this one? The objections are baffling to ke. FloridaArmy (talk) 08:41, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

FloridaArmy, Hey, I added some new citations and details. As far as I can they are very notable and need a Wikipedia article. His funeral home building could be it's own article, if it has some sort of historical designation(s). I did not elaborate on the building much. What would be helpful is if someone did some copy editing to the text or expanded it further. PigeonChickenFish (talk) 23:52, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
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