User talk:Protageagent

Speedy deletion of Protage[edit]

A tag has been placed on Protage, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be blatant advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the guidelines on spam as well as Wikipedia:FAQ/Business for more information.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. tgies (talk) 12:02, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do not remove speedy tags[edit]

Please do not remove speedy deletion tags from articles you created, as you did with Protage. If you do not believe the article deserves to be deleted, then please do the following:

Place {{hangon}} on the page. Please do not remove any existing speedy deletion tag(s).
Make your case on the article's talk page.

Administrators will look at your reasoning before deciding what to do with the article. Thank you. --Onorem ♠Dil 12:14, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome[edit]

Hello, Protageagent, and welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the New contributors' help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type {{helpme}} and your question on this page, and someone will show up shortly to answer. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

We hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! By the way, you can sign your name on talk and vote pages using four tildes, like this: ~~~~. If you have any questions, see the help pages, add a question to the village pump or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! --Onorem ♠Dil 12:14, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note on potential conflict of interest[edit]

If you have a close connection to some of the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest. In keeping with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, edits where there is a conflict of interest, or where such a conflict might reasonably be inferred from the tone of the edit and the proximity of the editor to the subject, are strongly discouraged. If you have a conflict of interest, you should avoid or exercise great caution when:

editing or creating articles related to you, your organization, or its competitors, as well as projects and products they are involved with;
participating in deletion discussions about articles related to your organization or its competitors;
linking to the Wikipedia article or website of your organization in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam); and,
avoid breaching relevant policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, verifiability of information, and autobiographies.

For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for businesses. For more details about what, exactly, constitutes a conflict of interest, please see our conflict of interest guidelines. Thank you. --Onorem ♠Dil 12:14, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

November 2008[edit]

Please do not remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Thank you. Onorem ♠Dil 13:16, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop. Continuing to remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia without resolving the problem that the template refers to may be considered vandalism. Further edits of this type may result in your being blocked from editing. Adding some reliable third party sources that explain what makes this project notable would help. Removing valid tags without explanation doesn't help anything. Onorem ♠Dil 13:27, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits.
If you again remove maintenance templates from Wikipedia articles without resolving the problem that the template refers to, you will be blocked from editing.

The page is on my watchlist. Since you seem to be unwilling to communicate, I will be taking the article to articles for deletion within the next day or two if you do not provide sources that verify this project's notability. I'm not going to continue to edit war over tags with you. --Onorem ♠Dil 13:34, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion of Intelligent Agent Based Digital Preservation[edit]

A tag has been placed on Intelligent Agent Based Digital Preservation, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be blatant advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the guidelines on spam as well as Wikipedia:FAQ/Business for more information.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. TrulyBlue (talk) 13:31, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Administrator Intervention[edit]

I have reported you to administrators for continued insertion of spam pages following warnings. TrulyBlue (talk) 13:34, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You have been blocked for a period of 31 hours from editing in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for continuing to add spam links. If you wish to make useful contributions, you are welcome to come back after the block expires. Persistent spammers will have their websites blacklisted from Wikipedia and potentially penalized by search engines. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text {{unblock|your reason here}} below. Kralizec! (talk) 13:40, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Repost of Intelligent Agent Based Digital Preservation[edit]

A tag has been placed on Intelligent Agent Based Digital Preservation requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia, because it appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion discussion. If you can indicate how it is different from the previously posted material, place the template {{hangon}} underneath the other template on the article and put a note on the page's discussion page saying why this article should stay. Administrators will look at your reasoning before deciding what to do with the page. If you believe the original discussion was unjustified, please use deletion review instead of continuing to recreate the page. Thank you. ←Signed:→Mr. E. Sánchez ^{Get to know me!} / _{Talk to me!}←at≈:→ 10:24, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your user name[edit]

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia!

I hope not to seem unfriendly or make you feel unwelcome, but I noticed your username, and I am concerned that it might not meet Wikipedia's username policy for the following reason: it blatantly advertises the name of a company (Protage) and the surname "agent" associates it as a role account or one to be used as a vehicle of advertisement with a potential conflict of interest. After you look over that policy, could we discuss that concern here?

I'd appreciate learning your own views, for instance your reasons for wanting this particular name, and what alternative username you might accept that avoids raising this concern.

You have several options freely available to you:

If you can relieve my concern through discussing it here, I can stop worrying about it.
If the two of us can't agree here, we can ask for help through Wikipedia's dispute resolution process, such as requesting comments from other Wikipedians. Wikipedia administrators usually abide by agreements reached through this process.
You can keep your contributions history under a new username. Visit Wikipedia:Changing username and follow the guidelines there.

Thank you. ←Signed:→Mr. E. Sánchez ^{Get to know me!} / _{Talk to me!}←at≈:→ 10:27, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion of PROTAGE (PReservation Organization using Tools in AGent Environments)[edit]

A tag has been placed on PROTAGE (PReservation Organization using Tools in AGent Environments), requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be blatant advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the guidelines on spam as well as Wikipedia:FAQ/Business for more information.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. —Largo Plazo (talk) 15:10, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm copying the thread from the article's talk page below because that page is subject to deletion and I've added responses. —Largo Plazo (talk) 16:55, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This article is a significantly modified version of the article "Intelligent Agent Based Digital Preservation", which has been deleted, based on the comments from the editors, Oscarthecat, Mr. E. Sánchez, and Kralizec!.Protageagent (talk) 15:12, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Be that as it may, what I see is an article that was written to make a case for the use of a tool with which the article's author, according to his user name, is associated. Hence, it's an advertisement. —Largo Plazo (talk) 15:27, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This article is to introduce an innovative technology for long-term digital preservation, i.e., Intelligent Agent Based Digital Preservation, as well as the corresponding research project, i.e., PROTAGE, which is funded by the European Union. In this article, lots of internal links, external links, and references have been provided. Meanwhile, quite a few articles about similar digital preservation projects have been published on the Wikipedia. We want to know why this article and its other versions were decided to be deleted again and again? Did you read the content of the article? If not, please do read the content first. If yes, I hope you would give me specific suggestions to rewrite the article.Protageagent (talk) 15:24, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is expressly not for the purpose of introducing, let alone promoting, anything. Articles are to be about topics that have already achieved notability, not for the purpose of acquiring note that doesn't already exist. And of course I read the article. How else would I have reached a decision to request deletion? As for suggestions: my suggestion is don't write the article. If the software achieves notability, someone will likely write an objective third-party article about it. —Largo Plazo (talk) 15:27, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, this article is not to advertise a tool. It is to introduce an "innovative technology for long-term digital preservation" as well as its corresponding "research" project funded by the European Seventh Framework Programme. Secondly, as I have mentioned, "quite a few articles about similar digital preservation projects, which were also funded by the Fifth/Sixth/Seventh Framework Programme, have been published on the Wikipedia". Given this situation, I do not think my article should be deleted.Protageagent (talk) 16:43, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have already responded to most of those points. As for "introduce" versus "advertise": "tomayto"/"tomahto"; the notability constraint applies, along with the fact that you are holding yourself out to be involved in the topic about which you're writing. As for other articles about digital processing: (a) I didn't request deletion because your article is about digital preservation and I have some strange idea that articles about digital preservation don't belong on Wikipedia, and (b) either they don't meet criteria for deletion as your article does, in which case it doesn't help to invoke them, or they do meeting such criteria, in which case the result is that they too are subject to deletion, not that your article isn't. —Largo Plazo (talk) 16:48, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In my article, I have mentioned the articles of several similar projects (see the "See Also" section). I do not think my article is more like an advertisement than those articles. If you want, you can compare my article with the others. In this situation, I want to know that 1) why can they be accepted by Wikipedia? 2) If you think they should also be deleted, why not delete them as soon as they were created? Just like you delete my article.Protageagent (talk) 22:13, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You are under the misunderstanding that I am The Person Who Reviews All New Wikipedia Articles—as though there could be such a person. I have no idea what these other articles are. I have never seen them. I'm an ordinary user like you, and I'm one of the many users who patrol new articles, applying Wikipedia's policies and guidelines as we understand them. —Largo Plazo (talk) 23:16, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of File:PROTAGE LOGO.JPG[edit]

The file File:PROTAGE LOGO.JPG has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Unused logo with no article used, it's also can't move to commons because of an unused logo will be deleted as of out of project scope.

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated files}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the file's talk page.

Please consider addressing the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated files}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and files for discussion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Willy1018 (talk) 07:48, 4 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]