User talk:RenwickAlan

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Hello, RenwickAlan, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.

I noticed that one of the first articles you edited appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article. Your recent contributions may have already been undone for this very reason.

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Jimfbleak thank you for reaching out. It would be great if you could proof any future changes I suggest. What is the best process to do this? I have tried to make only very factual and cited updates to out of date information. RenwickAlan (talk) 13:33, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Jimfbleak thank you for reaching out. It would be great if you could proof any future changes I suggest. What is the best process to do this? I have tried to make only very factual and cited updates to out of date information RenwickAlan (talk) 13:47, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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If you want me to see your messages, you must link like this {{ping|Jimfbleak}} You have an obvious conflict of interest and you must declare it. If you work directly or indirectly for an organisation, or otherwise are acting on its behalf, you are very strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. If you are paid directly or indirectly by the organisation you are writing about, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at user:RenwickAlan. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=RenwickAlan|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If you are being compensated, please provide the required disclosure. Note that editing with a COI is discouraged, but permitted as long as it is declared. Concealing a COI can lead to a block. Please do not edit further until you respond to this message. Also read the following regarding writing an article:

  • you must provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that it meets the notability guidelines. Sources that are not acceptable include those linked to the organisation or company, press releases, YouTube, IMDB, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, logs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what the company or organisation claims or interviewing its management. Note that references should be in-line so we can tell what fact each is supporting, and should not be bare urls
  • The notability guidelines for organisations and companies have been updated. The primary criteria has five components that must be evaluated separately and independently to determine if it is met:
  1. significant coverage in
  2. independent,
  3. multiple,
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Note that an individual source must meet all four criteria to be counted towards notability.
  • You must write in a non-promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic, with verifiable facts, not opinions or reviews.
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Your actual content is reasonably neutral, should include more facts about the company. For example National World has financials and number of employees unsourced in the infobox, but not in the text. I'm not convinced that bristol World is separately notable from its parent, it appears to have no separate staff or financials. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:47, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Jimfbleak: thanks again for this information. What is the best way to proceed here? As mentioned I have just tried to correct/update facts but I don't want to do anything outside Wikipedia's spirit. Do you want to roll back my changes? I had actually meant to draft BristolWorld I didn't realise it had been published?
Please note as I have put in my page I am an employee of National World but I haven't been asked or paid specifically to do anything on Wikipedia, I was just keen personally to update. RenwickAlan (talk) 13:56, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Jimfbleak: or should I go through the page with your notes above in mind and submit these to you for proofing? Thanks again for reaching out, and please let me know the best approach now. Alan RenwickAlan (talk) 14:56, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Jimfbleak: understood, thanks for this, I have learned a lot today. I had actually already deleted the logo following your earlier notes. RenwickAlan (talk) 15:29, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If you are an employee, you are a paid editor even if not specifically paid to edit here. National World has had other editors, I've cleaned it up a bit, and you mainly need to add the financials and staff numbers to the main text. Bristol World is a bit light on facts, which casts doubt on its notability. It's difficult to write a company article neutrally, and the fact that you have tried to do so is why you haven't yet been blocked or had the Bristol article deleted. If you follow the guidance above, and demonstrate notability for Bristol you should be OK. Don't quote the company in your text. I've nominated your logo for deletion, even if it really is your own work, ther is no evidence that it is free for anyone to use. Normally logos and other copyright images are added only to the article to which they refer under a fair use claim, see File:Vauxhall logo 2019.svg Jimfbleak - talk to me?
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