User talk:Robby.is.on/Archive 8

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Liam Scales

The IP is back at this article is you can keep an eye on it please. Giant Snowman 17:49, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

@GiantSnowman: Will do. I think it's fine to mention the goal but it being the player's "last goal" is not supported by the reference. Robby.is.on (talk) 17:57, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

IP is still reverting... Giant Snowman 10:33, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks

Hello Robby, thanks for your message. I understood your advice and I'm agree with you. Thanks again and have a nice day. Supporterhéninois (talk) 09:47, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks

Hello Robby, thanks for your help! I went through the intro page and will visit the Teahouse too! :) Thanks again! User talk:DillonPalm

@DillonPalm: You're welcome. :-) Happy editing, Robby.is.on (talk) 08:15, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

81.170.126.18

No recent edits (i.e. last 24 hours) - keep an eye and if they do it again let me know and I'll block. Giant Snowman 18:04, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

I have blocked them for 48 hours as they have been making further disruptive/unsourced edits today. Giant Snowman 18:02, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

@GiantSnowman: Thanks, GS. Robby.is.on (talk) 08:08, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

My articles page

Hey Robby, I noticed you don't do the MOS thing on articles I create anymore. What happened? Did you stop watching my articles page? Paul Vaurie (talk) 01:02, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

@Paul Vaurie: Hi Paul, no, I got tired of this dull task. I might return to doing it but recently I've felt like spending my Wiki time on other things. Robby.is.on (talk) 08:47, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

Sounds fair. I wasn't sure why you did it in the first place. Just tell me what I should do when I create the article. Do I need to add some kind of template? Paul Vaurie (talk) 16:54, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

When creating a new article, I usually copy over the contents of an article I previously created and then change all the parameters. You could also copy parts of Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Players. Kind regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 11:33, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

WP:STUBSPACING

Thank you very much! Will keep an eye on that.

Geregen2 (talk) 19:32, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Editing on Nikos Tsoumanis death

The day of death is stated and referenced multiple times in the text so I added it to the headline as it should be. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Addiakogiannis (talk • contribs) 11:18, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

@Addiakogiannis: Thanks for reaching out. Where is it stated? The source you added (https://www.athina984.gr/en/2021/10/05/thessaloniki-necros-vrethike-o-podosfairistis-nikos-tsoymanis/) states: "was found dead in his car […] in the morning", doesn't say when death occurred. Kind regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 12:14, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

Julie Chipchase

Nomination of Julie Chipchase for deletion

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The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Julie Chipchase until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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Bring back Daz Sampson (talk) 21:31, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

WP:NOTBROKEN

Hi there Rob, top of the morning to you,

i'm having the hardest time understanding this concept: if "striker" works perfectly to direct the user/reader to the given page (thus being "not broken"), doesn't "striker" (and all the other playing positions, of course) do the same? Hard to grasp, but maybe it could be me :)

Kind regards, take care! --193.137.135.2 (talk) 11:44, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for reply! Now, the "habitual favour" if you can: Isaías Sánchez, his Ponferradina stats are dead wrong, he has 27 (+6 in playoffs, which then gives 33) in the 2011/12 season, not 33+6! Thanks in advance, cheerio. --193.137.135.2 (talk) 14:08, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

Not much to be honest (not your fault, of course!), but i'll abide by the guideline from now on, no worries. I just "corrected" Abreu yesterday because the link was presented differently in box and intro ;) --193.137.135.2 (talk) 14:43, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

I think the gist of it may be "Updating one redirect is far more efficient than updating dozens of piped links". How one "updates a redirect" is something that is Chinese to me :( But all will be OK as long as i never "fix" the links again when they have been updated.

Thanks again for the good work and the time you take/took with me, all the best! --193.137.135.2 (talk) 15:34, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

LTA

I've noticed that you have now joined me as being impersonated on en.wiki, not good. In addition, I see the page is still live and saw the edit summary for the creation. I always assume you remember your own details 100% of the time and the impersonator, who has thanked me before making edits, is nothing but what you assumed. I'm also glad you were not blocked by accident either by checking the block log myself. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 15:05, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your message, @Iggy the Swan:. :-) Yes, they were dealt with quickly. One day, maybe, they'll find a more fun way to spend their time. Robby.is.on (talk) 20:03, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

As long as Wikipedia continues to modify edit filters blocking out strings, there should be no problem. On WT:Footy, I had inserted a link to tell people a mass move request edit has returned causing the bot to tag all relevant pages including Matthew Lowton and Jack Cork again. Thanks, Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 06:32, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

Raúl de Tomás

Hi there Robby, all well?

Another edit war afoot, and that's what i'm trying to avoid so i come to you for advice: intro, do you think that nickname mention is necessary (and of course, the other reverted me telling me that's what C. Ronaldo's article shows, as we all know only two players in the world are important, the Portuguese diva and Messi)? Who cares he's called RdT? Guti once had GUTI HAZ in his shirt to honour his sons, should we mention that crap as well?

Kind regards -- [REDACTED - Oshwah] 17:37, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi. :-) Coincidentally, only today I watched a highlights video of his last appearance for Espanyol and I did notice that "RdT" was on the back of his shirt and the commentator also used that to refer to him. But I don't know if that suffices.

I may be repeating myself: To avoid an edit-war it is usually better to discuss the issue calmly on the article Talk page instead of through reverts and edit summaries. Robby.is.on (talk) 21:06, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for input! Now, can you please check out Paulo Ferreira's stat chart? There seems to be a discrepancy between storyline (which i sourced/corrected, previous one said he made 227 competitive apperances, i checked Soccerbase and i confirmed 217) and the aforementioned chart.

Thanks in advance, cheers! -- [REDACTED - Oshwah] 19:08, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Done. Robby.is.on (talk) 20:33, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! More in Mr. Ferreira: that Primeira Liga goal for Setúbal seems to be a FORADEJOGO glitch, in the general overview he has 34 matches/0 goals, and only when you click the magnifying glass does the goal appear. Plus, the TVI 24 match report i added yesterday does not mention him scoring (i try to read the other report which is to your left when you click that ref, named "MARÍTIMO-V. SETÚBAL, 3-1 (DESTAQUES)", but never get very far before the page is blocked, happens to me in several websites when i try to read two articles in a row), while this other source says it was Albert Meyong who found the net (https://maisfutebol.iol.pt/geral/vitoria-setubal/maritimo-v-setubal-3-1-destaques)! Since TVI 24 often "borrows" news/reports from MAISFUTEBOL, it's quite probable both sites have the same text.

All in all i'm removing the goal. If you don't agree with me, please reply as soon as you can. I think it's (99,99999999999%) clear Mr. Ferreira did not score in that match, but if you don't agree and want to revert i guess i'll be okay ;)

Take care, schönes Wochenende! --193.137.135.2 (talk) 09:29, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Makes sense. Some sort of comment explaining the issue would probably be good. Robby.is.on (talk) 09:31, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

If you mean the edit summary, i mentioned it thoroughly there, using source i used in this message to you. More stats arranged, if you can: Ager Aketxe, play-off stuff seems to be "embedded" in the regular season numbers. --193.137.135.2 (talk) 09:41, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

I meant in the table itself – I've added a comment there. Will have a look at Aketxe. Robby.is.on (talk) 09:46, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks again, obvious! Now, for the last before the weekend if you can: Diego Castro, i've done what i can, but totals still seem off-base (i.e. even though all the goals were there, the Sporting Gijón column wrongly added up to 30 instead of 39). Whistle when(ever) you need something in return, i'll happily oblige :) -- [REDACTED - Oshwah] 18:31, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Diego Castro should be good now? Robby.is.on (talk) 19:38, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Wonderful, as always! Enjoy that weekend. -- [REDACTED - Oshwah] 19:59, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Match scores

Thank you so much for clarifying when it comes to the convention regarding the scores for football matches! Cheers! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.100.143.101 (talk) 21:39, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Abd Moh

I've given them a final warning - please let me know if they continue. Giant Snowman 07:10, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

I have blocked for 48 hours. If they come back and do it again please escalate to ANI for wider review. Giant Snowman 13:22, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

¡Una barnstar para ti!

	El Barnstar original
	gracias..Robby Mciccone1975 (talk) 09:31, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, @Mciccone1975:. :-) Happy editing, Robby.is.on (talk) 22:29, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Siluyan (Kilin)

On 7 November 2021, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Siluyan (Kilin), which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Step hen 23:19, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

Graham Edwards

The source verifies that he played for VVV. When combined with WF, which confirms he was a forward, there are no verification issues in the sentence as it stands. Giant Snowman 12:38, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

FDJ bits and pieces

Message sent to ZEROZERO Robby, should they see it fit to reply, you'll be the first to hear from it :)

Continue the good work/week, cheers! -- [REDACTED - Oshwah] 17:55, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

That's great to hear. Thank you! :-) You too, Robby.is.on (talk) 21:01, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the thanks

Geschichte (talk) 08:00, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

@Geschichte: You're welcome. :-) Happy editing, Robby.is.on (talk) 08:07, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The No Spam Barnstar
	I am sorry if I wrongly edited on Hakainde Hichilema..... But I heard on News the day when He was declared winner of the elections..... They said that The President elect will be the first Zambian President to enter state house as a Rich man. Fang Fleur (talk) 18:29, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi @Fang Fleur:, no problem. :-) It takes a while to get familiar with Wikipedia's polices and guidelines.

If Hichilema is in fact "the first Zambian President to enter state house as a rich man", that is definitely worth including in the article. We just need a reliable source to go with it when we add the content to the article. Kind regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 10:55, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

FDJ updates

Hi there Robby,

was out for the weekend so did not edit or visit WP at all. Now, for updates regarding your/our doubt: no reply as of yet, and i guess i should not expect one at all, they used to interact with me but stopped to do so when i badmouthed the owner of Portugal and half of the civilized world, one should never do that in my country (and i'm not even being sarcastic). If they do, i'll surely notify you!

Happy week -- [REDACTED - Oshwah] 19:27, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for the update. Haha, holy CR. :-D Happy editing, Robby.is.on (talk) 10:57, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Just sent the site another message, asking if accounts like "Messimerda" ("Messishit" in English) are allowed/encouraged. That said, that should tell you what kind of people we are dealing with (users, administrators of site, all included!)...

Cheers! -- [REDACTED - Oshwah] 19:29, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

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Updates / favour

Hi there Robby, all well?

1 - no reply from FDJ yet, nor should i expect one for the reasons already explained, really "polite" from them. Can't wait for Monday to see Messi earn his seventh B. d'Or to shove it down the throat of my idiot/bigot compatriots (even though i think Lewandowski merits it way more this year and even though i'm sick and tired of having the football world - not just Portugal, mind you - revolving around TWO players).

2 - can you please check if the two German references i added in Hugo Costa are well translated? I believe they are, but better play safe ;)

Vielen dank fur dein Arbeit und deine Geduld, aufwiedersehen! -- [REDACTED - Oshwah] 19:01, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

1. Yeah, I wouldn't expect an answer either, after what you reported.

2. Translations look very good. :-) Muito obrigado, Robby.is.on (talk) 19:48, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Stats table

Hello Robby, thanks for pointing that out. I appreciate your help. I'll make necessary changes on other articles in which I've already added international stats table. Happy editing! Kokoeist (talk) 09:39, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Ta

Many thanks for your attention to detail at Deborah During and Tobias Bacherle. Have noted your changes and will hopefully follow the MOS more closely next time :-) Akakievich (talk) 17:29, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

@Akakievich: You're welcome. :-) Happy editing, Robby.is.on (talk) 08:42, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Phil Dwyer

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Thank you, @TJMSmith:. :-) Robby.is.on (talk) 08:46, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Again, definition of the word "TALK"

1. To exchange thoughts or opinions in spoken or sign language; converse: synonym: speak. 2. To utter or pronounce words. 3. To imitate the sounds of human speech.

Maximum70 (talk) 10:54, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Notice how consensus is not mentioned in the definition? Maximum70 (talk) 10:58, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

@Maximum70: The definition of the word "talk" is immaterial. If you were unsure of what belongs on article Talk pages, you should know now after I posted the quote from the policy page on your Talk page. Robby.is.on (talk) 11:02, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

"The definition of the word "talk" is immaterial." ... Within an Encyclopedia? Makes sense. Maximum70 (talk) 11:03, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

"I posted the quote from the policy page" ... I don't work for Wikipedia. Maximum70 (talk) 11:04, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

"Policy" -> "A written contract by which a person, company, or party engages to pay a certain sum on certain contingencies, as in the case of fire or shipwreck, in the event of death, etc., on the condition of receiving a fixed sum or percentage on the amount of the risk, or certain periodical payments." When is Wikipedia sending me my check? Anyway, words do matter and the definition of. Maximum70 (talk) 11:06, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

You are doing it wrong. You should read WP:TALK to find out what Wikipedia talk pages are for, not just look up the word "talk" in a dictionary. The rules apply to all editors, not just those who "work for Wikipedia".

Also, you should not use the word "boomer" for "person whose well-founded reasoning I disagree with for spurious reasons". You don't even know how old they are, and even if you did, proof by birthdate is a fallacy. --Hob Gadling (talk) 11:06, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia editors are all volunteers, nobody gets paid by Wikipedia for editing and every Wikipedia editor needs to follow the policies agreed upon by the community. Take it or leave it. I won't argue semantics with you. Robby.is.on (talk) 11:08, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Bolasie

Hello, just a 'heads up'; we seem to have an issue with a (group of) Turkish(?) IP(s) particularly at Bolasie's page but also elswhere. Infobox goals were updated yesterday at several pages by the IP you reverted then but not the timestamp on any of them. 'Hidden' advice is always ignored. GS suggested a range-block about 3 months ago but there seems to be have been more than one range involved in the past. I did get Bolaise's item semi-protected for a while but it just resumed. Cheers. Eagleash (talk) 13:33, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know, @Eagleash:. Disruptive editing from who I assume is the same person has been going at Lebogang Phiri at least since July. Robby.is.on (talk) 13:55, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Aha; I just undid some edits at Phiri – working through yesterday's edits. Looks like a case of 'whack-a-mole' or just keeping on it until they get tired of it. Eagleash (talk) 14:06, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Oops; my bad, it was Joel Pohjanpalo I just did, not Phiri! Eagleash (talk) 14:09, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

78.164.53.164 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) seems to be the same editor? Robby.is.on (talk) 21:32, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, only just saw your post 12 Dec. Yes looks same and today there's 78.164.55.213 too. Always the same thing (no timestamp etc.) and ignores (and / or deletes) hidden advice. A lot of the player articles also have the wrong squad template, which may – or may not – contain the player; takes quite a bit of checking and editing to correct. It is nigh impossible to communicate with IP-hopping disruptive editors and it is my experience that ANI are not all that interested, regarding this sort of thing as low-level and relatively fixable by others. It's pretty widespread now though and of course once fixed, it's only a short time before it happens again. Cheers. Eagleash (talk) 18:05, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

They're off again here. Eagleash (talk) 16:40, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

Help/others

LOL, again the invisible spacings, now at Kiko Bondoso! Can you please lend a hand?

Another article i worked my ass off improving, but what i (still seem to) do not understand is this volunteer work and no one is forced to hang around here but, IF WE DO, we all should get along, period (except for bonafide vandals, of course). Another interaction, now with a sock (a guy you reported here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Martimc123), left me feeling really down. I assume my wrongdoings, and my part in the escalation.

Keep it up, thanks in advance (and thanks for "listening" as well) --193.137.135.2 (talk) 11:17, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Fixed. :-) I used https://www.soscisurvey.de/tools/view-chars.php to find the non-printable unicode characters and then removed them by rewriting the character in their vicinity.

It's hard to reason with sockpuppets and other disruptive editors. Robby.is.on (talk) 11:42, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

IP from workplace blocked for THREE MONTHS, what the hey?! --Quite A Character (talk) 12:09, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Am in the process of cleaning up Dani Güiza AGAIN, thanks for helping out there when you can of course! The mess of all messes (not to mention the Anglish again, the player NOTED goals (instead of SCORED), the player DENIED an offer instead of REJECTED!!), same ref needlessly used over and over again (even when sources were already present). This is where i'm really needing your help mate: the Paraguayan user wrote that the Spaniard was paired up front in the 2013 Paraguayan Primera División season with Rodrigo López (footballer, born 1978); then, if you check the team's SOCCERWAY entry for that year, you'll see López played the grand total of...SIX matches, what relevance does this have (or the source the user put in storyline, https://www.national-football-teams.com/club/1842/2013_2/Cerro_Porteno_Asuncion.html, he was almost the forward with the least matches)?! I'll maybe be accused of removing refs when i did no such thing (repeated ref will be left there, as well as NFT.com as an external link), so perhaps you could put this in your watchlist?

Top of the morning to you, thanks in advance (and please don't edit yet in Güiza, to avoid edit conflicts)! --193.137.135.2 (talk) 11:03, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

You should really get into the habit of kindly informing other editors about things they can improve instead of getting agitated about these issues. In my experience, most editors welcome friendly suggestions. Robby.is.on (talk) 11:29, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

Damn: "fixed this Paraguayan user again" That's plain rude. Talk to them, not about them! Robby.is.on (talk) 11:44, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

What? Rude? I honestly fail to see why/where, but respect your opinion of course. Finished cleanup, of course was accused (TWICE) of removing references when no such thing ocurred! If you don't want to assist no worries, i'll tend to this by myself.

Continue the good work, sorry to bother you if that was the case. --193.137.135.2 (talk) 11:51, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

Well, then perhaps open your eyes: 1. We don't fix people, we fix problems in articles, 2. we refer to people by their name, not their nationality, 3. we don't passive-aggressively point out their shortcoming in edit summaries. I feel like I have said this to you quite a few times. When will you take it on board? Robby.is.on (talk) 12:03, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

I try man, i really try, not even being sarcastic (but i'm not trying to fix anyone and i'm not a racist; i've had the occasional "go" at some of my compatriots with my stupid summaries, not proud of that one bit). Thanks for the patience again! --193.137.135.2 (talk) 12:05, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

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Thanks a lot, @Iggy the Swan:! The same for you. :-) I hope the issue you mentioned at WP:FOOTY turns out alright. Robby.is.on (talk) 23:37, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Hope so as well. That issue certainly won't be indefinite unlike others which appears to be at this point. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 07:15, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Dani Güiza, user at it again, adding WP:OVERDETAIL like no tomorrow to needlessly enlarge his Cerro Porteño career (i.e. "he scored his first goal of the season", "he scored his last goal of the season", "he appeared in his first game of the season", and so on and so on). I have already reverted with a proper non-confrontational summary, but doubt VERY MUCH they will abide by this cardinal WP rule (milestones in goals and apps, not a play-by-play commentary).

Happy 2022 to you and yours, take care! --193.137.135.2 (talk) 12:22, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

A non-confrontational edit summary is good. I suggest you also write on their Talk page to explain in more detail. They are clearly editing in good faith and I'm sure getting that much work reverted is frustrating for them. Wikipedia is in need of editors who add content. We can help this editor on their way to being more productive. All the best for 2022 for you, too. :-) Robby.is.on (talk) 01:27, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

A grand idea

Talk:New_World_Order_(conspiracy_theory)#More_speeches_by_George_H.W._Bush

sincerely,

--Mick2 (talk) 23:43, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, @Mick2:. Robby.is.on (talk) 10:37, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

Nomination of Shinji Yamada for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Shinji Yamada is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shinji Yamada until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.

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Nimmmad

Back at ANI. Giant Snowman 10:40, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Josh Sargent

Hiya, Thanks for picking up on the missed change to the total, but I'm afraid the rest of your comments aren't necessary and the rollback was a bit overzealous. Date formats aren't standardised on footballer articles (see Mo Salah, Teemu Pukki et al), and you reverted the accessed date on the citation. Simply updating the article to include the failed update to the totals would have been more appropriate, in my opinion.

Tomtiger11 (talk) 21:32, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

@Tomtiger11: Date formats are very much standardised – at least in the sense that we try to keep the dates within an article consistent. In Sargent's case we use the mdy format because he's American. This is indicated by the "{{Use mdy dates}}" template at the top of the page. Salah and Pukki use the dmy format as indicated by the "{{Use dmy dates}}" templates at the top of their pages. Updating instead of reverting would have been more work.

However, I only noticed just now that the match has not ended yet so I have restored a revision without the updates. Appearances and goals should only be updated at the end of a match. See WP:FOOTYLIVE for details. Kind regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 21:46, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

@Robby.is.on: You make a fair point about the mdy tag, I'll admit I didn't see that as I only edited the relevant section. Noted. Also noted about the consensus on live updates, not too active in the Football project.

I guess my only comment now is that if a change has been made to the accessed date of a citation, as it's clear the data on the article is more up to date than the citation's accessed date suggests, your edit after reverting ought to have changed the accessed date to either today (as it had been verified that the data was correct as of today, less the apps. and goals from todays game) or the date of the previous game (as the citation couldn't show he appeared more than once in the PL on the accessed date given). All the best to you and your family! Tomtiger11 (talk) 21:55, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

"ought to have changed the accessed date" Updating the accessdate is useful but not strictly necessary and you'll find that it's rarely done. Robby.is.on (talk) 22:09, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

If I hadn't already changed it I'd agree, it's just a tad annoying to have to make the same change 3 times because it keeps getting undone during rollbacks. Anyway, I think we've sorted it. Tomtiger11 (talk) 22:18, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

It's also annoying having to revert half-baked changes but I'm not going to make a fuss. Nobody's perfect. :-) Robby.is.on (talk) 22:22, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Reverting others replies

I think it is not a good idea to remove other's sections on talk pages like you did on [Jan 23, 2022, 22:58]. Have you read WP:TPO? Best. AXONOV (talk) ⚑ 23:33, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

I think it was a good idea. Yes, I have. Robby.is.on (talk) 08:01, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Mr. Statman

Can you please have a look at Paulinho (footballer, born November 1992)'s stats (not box, the chart below of course)? Those totals seem a bit off/odd...

Thanks in advance, cheers again! --2001:8A0:7667:5801:9D74:8B52:79E3:69E1 (talk) 15:23, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Better now? :-) Robby.is.on (talk) 15:48, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

LOL, way easier to fix than what i first thought! I could have done it myself instead of bothering you, but at least there's some good from all of this, you did not have that much trouble yourself ;)

Many thanks again, frohes neues Jahr! --2001:8A0:7667:5801:9D74:8B52:79E3:69E1 (talk) 15:55, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Heh. You too. Robby.is.on (talk) 16:15, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Before you start thinking (again) "this guy's a lunatic, he can be really nice and friendly, then the next day rants like a crazy goat", i always write that summary when people pipe one club or two then leave the rest unpiped for reasons that elude me/blow my mind. Those lines were not dedicated exclusively to you, hopefully you'll believe me.

Happy réveillon, take care! --2001:8A0:7667:5801:445D:631B:2C35:B21F (talk) 15:09, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

Heh, that's very apt. It's perfectly possible to disagree with someone else's edit without implying some improper intentions ("not the ones of your choosing"). And while Zambrone could have gone all the way and added all the missing piping, their edit to pipe to "Flamengo" in itself was correct so the revert was wrong in my opinion. "Hop off!" isn't an edit summary I'd ever use when reverting an edit made in good faith as was obviously the case. Robby.is.on (talk) 11:36, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

Another one, if you can (i mean, the stats below): Jorge Monteiro. Thanks in advance, enjoy the rest of your week! --2001:8A0:7667:5801:50F5:7398:14A8:8E35 (talk) 23:08, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Should be better now? :-) Pity we have to do without Fora De Jogo. Robby.is.on (talk) 09:12, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks a million! Marco Ruben if you please, User:Santas20 made a complete mess of the stats by updating totals in one place but not overall (at least that's what it seems like, apologies to them if i saw it incorrectly) :( --2001:8A0:7667:5801:B9ED:4C4D:4D9A:6A3A (talk) 18:28, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

Done (I think). :-) Robby.is.on (talk) 18:47, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

A different request, but still connected to stats of course! Chiquinho (footballer, born 2000), how do you change the headers for cups and akin (i'll see how you "operate" then i'll surely learn)? Surely, this player did not score for G.D. Estoril Praia in the FA Cup or the EFL Cup! :) :)

Thanks in advance, cheers --2001:8A0:7667:5801:C8A9:7BA7:E8F9:9BEC (talk) 02:00, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi. Indeed! That should be easy. Give it a try: edit the table to replace the links by "National Cup" and "League Cup", respectively. :-) Robby.is.on (talk) 08:58, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Done (hopefully well)! --2001:8A0:7667:5801:B833:9AEB:96A0:36BD (talk) 00:36, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Perfect. Robby.is.on (talk) 09:01, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Glenn Ståhl

Glenn Ståhl: Revision history - Was ist das?Official link If you wanna change, let`s do it. (talk) 20:01, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

@Makenzis: Wikipedia:Verifiability is Wikipedia 101. It's not my job to add a reference for you. See WP:BURDEN: "The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports". Thanks for including a reference the second time round. Kind regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 09:27, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Oh, babe. Wikipedia is not for lazy person. It`s so sad to read that you don`t wanna do something. It`s you irish side of person, you`s irish mental. Irish never wash muddy glass, if that glass to others. Nothing personal. :) When i uploaded, in that moment it was hot new, without link. Just later i founded link. I you so fast to excape changes. Good luck for you. (talk) 9:40, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

There is no rush. We can wait for reliable sources to cover "hot news".

Insults are not in any way helpful and in violation of another basic tenet of Wikipedia: WP:CIVIL. Robby.is.on (talk) 09:47, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you bro. Regards Fariz Musa.

Thank you bro. Pls contact me. 42.191.153.113 (talk) 05:11, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

What is up? :-) Robby.is.on (talk) 10:27, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

188.164.221.8

Done Giant Snowman 18:34, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Re: Jari Litmanen Edit

Hi there, thanks for your comment on my edit. I removed an unreliable source on what was there initially, but there's not a singular sourcefor the claim I maed because so many have assumed things that everyone seems to think he was the first. But, except for linking through to other Wiki pages and through various more obscure sources, I think your solutiopn of leaving it vague works best. Apologies for forcing you to edit it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ratkiller75 (talk • contribs) 22:07, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

@Ratkiller75: Thanks! No problem, good job catching the unsupported claim of him being the first. :-) Happy editing, Robby.is.on (talk) 22:37, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Diego Llorente

Added long-overdue stats to this player in the chart all by myself. Was feeling all proud and "cocky", when i found out a note is needed to explain those are UEFA Europa League appearances. That i cannot do :(

Will you please complete? Top of the morning to you, thanks in advance --193.137.135.2 (talk) 10:17, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

Good job! Done. :-) Robby.is.on (talk) 10:51, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

Another one: Sérgio Oliveira, match just ended so i updated box. When i tried to follow suit in the chart below, noticed the totals are somewhat off; can you please have a look if you have 2/3 minutes?

Enjoy the rest of your Saturday! --2001:8A0:7667:5801:94BC:F7E1:59D8:E0C5 (talk) 19:10, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Done. :-) Seems like it was just the one number? You too! Kind regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 11:26, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

LOL! Thanks for the assistance. --2001:8A0:7667:5801:DC47:C27E:9B6E:653A (talk) 18:21, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

given name added to page of Gladys GUARISMA

Dear Robby,

Just a note to say that I made bold to make an edit to the page for Gladys GUARISMA that, erm, amounts to reverting an edit that you had made. Restoring the given name 'Gladys' in infobox & biography seemed more suitable to me, even though I'm aware that use of family names for scientists is a widespread convention.

No intention to antagonize anyone and no intention of starting an 'edit war'. I beg for your forgiveness should this small edit sound wrong to you, and bow to your experience & wisdom should you decide to revert my reversion.

Thanks & best

--AlexisMichaud (talk) 16:28, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

@AlexisMichaud: Hi there. As you yourself note it is convention to use a subject's surname. This convention is explained in MOS:SURNAME. MOS:SURNAME is not limited to scientists or subjects of other professions. For the image caption, I cited MOS:CAPSUCCINCT in my edit summary.

Do you have any specific reasons to make exceptions to these rules? "Seemed more suitable" doesn't really cut it as what seems suitable tends to be subjective. Robby.is.on (talk) 16:38, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

@Robby.is.on: Good point! I guess it's essentially French-style convention. There is a convention to use given names in addition to family names for women, thus: "Virginia Woolf est née à Londres de Sir..." vs. "Woolf was born into an affluent household..." in the English version (source: WP). So I realize that I carry my own usage of English (I am not a native speaker of English) into WP, which is not right. Apologies for the carry-over. I'll revert my edit. (I'd done that before on French WP, replacing "morte le..." by "décédée le..." (deceased: sounded less blunt) but that too was for want of knowing WP conventions and was reverted.) Thanks for your time and expertise! --AlexisMichaud (talk) 16:46, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

@AlexisMichaud: No problem. Thanks for the civil exchange. :-) Happy editing, Robby.is.on (talk) 16:48, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

Albanian IP

I have blocked. If they re-appear then I suggest you request a range block at ANI. Giant Snowman 10:54, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Overlinking

Oh, okay, did not know about that. I'll be more careful from now on!8Dodo8 (talk · contribs) 15:44, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Javi Guerra

Hello, kind fellow user!

Just finished updating this player's bio, and now bring you this question: since the box totals seem to match the chart ones (i.e. no playoff appearances for that matter), why are the totals different (slightly, but still)? I admit i'm as lazy as they come regarding those fixes, so i come to you (as ALWAYS, soooooooorry!). Also, i apologise if i jumped the gun, but searched all over the web and found nothing to the contrary, this guy is 40 (will be next month), has not played anywhere in three seasons, he has to be retired; if you revert me in that department i won't contest it no sir, was just embracing WP:BOLD ;) I don't know - honestly! - if one can retire footballers from clubs as we do from national teams if they stop "working" for a few years even when they do not announce it...

Hope your day is and will continue to be a pleasant one, bis später! --193.137.135.2 (talk) 17:20, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello. :-) I agree that considering his age and the fact he hasn't played for 2.5 years, it's fair to assume Guerra has retired from professional football.

I think the totals in the table were just plain wrong. There was just one difference with the numbers for each clubs: 24 versus 23 goals scored for Rayo Vallecano. Soccerway and worldfootball.net which are used in the table have nine goals for the 2016–17 season, BDFutbol has eight. The former two state (https://int.soccerway.com/matches/2016/12/10/spain/segunda-division/club-gimnastic-de-tarragona/rayo-vallecano/2283727/, https://www.worldfootball.net/report/segunda-division-2016-2017-gimnastic-rayo-vallecano/) Guerra scored on 10 December in a 1–0 win against Gimnàstic whereas BDFutbol states (https://www.bdfutbol.com/en/p/p.php?id=129449) it was an own goal. So the question that remains is: which is more likely to be correct? Kind regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 18:41, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Hmmm... I think that, given that it's now a question of just one goal (taken or given) and the totals are now coherent, we can leave it as it is. Always the darn problem with the forward taking a shot and it deflects off a defender, then various newspapers telling you something different. Here my friend, found this other source for you (or SOURCES https://www.google.com/search?q=gimn%C3%A0stic+0-1+rayo+gol+javi+guerra&rlz=1C1WPZB_enPT728PT728&oq=gimn%C3%A0stic+0-1+rayo+gol+javi+guerra&aqs=chrome..69i57.9185j1j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8, Diario AS, La Vanguardia and Marca, results #3, #4 and #5 in this search, ALL reliable, all give the goal to Mr. Guerra), if you want any more pertinent changes i'll be (100%) fine with them!

Take care --193.137.135.2 (talk) 18:50, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Given the search results i showed you, i took the liberty of adjusting chart below (thus, intro). But i think some of the totals are still not up to par (i.e. he played 8+1 in his last year, and the totals for that particular column show 8 apps instead of 9 :( --193.137.135.2 (talk) 14:46, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

NEVERMIND, it was a typo, he did not play in that year's Copa del Rey; will correct it once i save this message (feel free to correct me where you want, but please elaborate on why if you do so)! --193.137.135.2 (talk) 14:47, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Another Spanish oldtimer if you please (born in same year actually), Javier Portillo (Spanish footballer) (one of those who promise the world when they're 18/20 then amount to very little, at least regarding big-time football; but i think no one can beat Portugal's Fábio Paím in that regard): he played 59 matches for Real Madrid (now added a ref in intro to convey that), and the chart totals amount to that (31+14+12+2) even tough the column reads "57". Could you please check to see if everything is correct (even tough you already had a go in November 2020)?

Many thanks in advance, enjoy your weekend! --193.137.135.2 (talk) 16:28, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

I remember Portillo, I think I've also edited the article before, but not Paím… As far as I could tell two numbers in Portillo's table were off. You have a lovely weekend, too. :-) Kind regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 17:25, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Gotcha! --193.137.135.2 (talk) 14:49, 2 March 2022 (UTC)