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Your submission at Articles for creation: Dark Marketing has been accepted[edit]

Dark Marketing, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.
The article has been assessed as Start-Class, which is recorded on the article's talk page. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.

You are more than welcome to continue making quality contributions to Wikipedia. Note that because you are a logged-in user, you can create articles yourself, and don't have to post a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for Creation if you prefer.

Thank you for helping improve Wikipedia!

Sulfurboy (talk) 18:25, 13 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your username[edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia. I saw that you edited or created Dark Marketing, and I noticed that your username, "BrandTotal", may not comply with our username policy. Please note that you may not use a username that represents the name of a company, group, organization, product, or website. Examples of usernames that are not allowed include "XYZ Company", "MyWidgetsUSA.com", and "Foobar Museum of Art". However, you are permitted to use a username that contains such a name if it identifies you personally, such as "Sara Smith at XYZ Company", "Mark at WidgetsUSA", or "FoobarFan87".

Please also note that Wikipedia does not allow accounts to be shared by multiple people, and that you may not advocate for or promote any company, group, organization, product, or website, regardless of your username. Please also read our paid editing policy and our conflict of interest guideline. If you are a single individual and are willing to contribute to Wikipedia in an unbiased manner, please request a change of username, by completing this form, choosing a username that complies with our username policy. If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. Thank you. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 12:12, 14 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello Rooks12345 . The nature of your edits gives the impression you have a financial stake in promoting a topic, such as the edits you made to Dark marketing promoting BrandTotal and your previous usernames (BrandTotal and Rachel Pleet at BrandTotal). Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially egregious type of COI. If you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, either because you are an outside contractor for this firm, or you are an employee of this firm, you required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your talk page or at User:Rooks12345. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=User talk:Rooks12345|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken and you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. If you are being compensated, please provide the required disclosure. Regards, Voceditenore (talk) 10:09, 28 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Dark marketing for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Dark marketing is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dark marketing until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Voceditenore (talk) 06:04, 29 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

September 2017[edit]

Information icon Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. When you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion (but never when editing articles), such as at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dark marketing, please be sure to sign your posts. There are two ways to do this. Either:

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Thank you. Cordless Larry (talk) 11:22, 29 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The problems with Dark marketing[edit]

Hello, Rooks12345. This is in response your message on my talk page and your comments at Articles for deletion/Dark marketing concerning this article and your intent to improve it. I'm going to be frank with you here. You say at the AfD that "It has great potential and absolutely does not intend to mislead readers, since the meaning conveyed is certainly a meaning of Dark Marketing." No, the meaning conveyed is not one of the accepted ones. The sole focus of that article is the completely idiosyncratic and proprietary "definition" and analysis used by BrandTotal in the marketing material for their market intelligence platform. The Wikipedia article is simply paraphrasing that material. No other reliable source uses that definition and that analysis. Nor have any independent reliable sources written about BrandTotal's definition. Simply having removed the explicit advertising copy and all the links to BrandTotal's blog and website, does not change the situation. You will have to completely rewrite the article from scratch, leaving out all the previous text. In fact, given that the whole analysis is taken from BrandTotal's materials, the current state of the Wikipedia article is extra misleading since it does not explicitly state where it comes from. The advertising remains but becomes hidden. By closely echoing BrandTotal's marketing material, the Wikipedia article lends credibility to it whether their name is mentioned or not. This is why conflict of interest editing is so strongly discouraged here.

I see that you have not responded to my message above in the section Paid editing and conflict of interest. At the AfD you stated that you were simply "affiliated" with BrandTotal. If by any chance you are employed there in the marketing or PR department, you are de facto considered to be a "paid editor" here. If that is the case, you must declare that formally using the prescribed form before you make any further edits to that article or to draft space. Voceditenore (talk) 17:09, 2 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Dark marketing moved to draftspace[edit]

An article you recently created, Dark marketing, has been closed at AfD as 'Draftify'. I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please follow the prompts on the Articles for Creation template atop the page. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:31, 9 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, I'm HasteurBot. I just wanted to let you know that Draft:Dark marketing, a page you created, has not been edited in 5 months. The Articles for Creation space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for articlespace.

If your submission is not edited soon, it could be nominated for deletion. If you would like to attempt to save it, you will need to improve it.

You may request Userfication of the content if it meets requirements.

If the deletion has already occured, instructions on how you may be able to retrieve it are available at WP:REFUND/G13.

Thank you for your attention. HasteurBot (talk) 01:38, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Dark marketing[edit]

Hello, Rooks12345. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Dark marketing".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. HasteurBot (talk) 00:01, 10 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, HasteurBot. Thank you for your message. For the time being, I probably will not be editing the draft. If you must delete it according to the policies, that is fine, but I certainly want the option to retrieve it. When that's the case, I will request its undeletion - please make sure this is still an option for me in the future. I don't want to loose the draft content that was previously created. Thanks, Rooks12345 (talk) 10:04, 21 April 2018 (UTC)Rooks12345.[reply]