User talk:Sameboat/old1

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With regards to your latest edit on the Platform Screen Doors article

Dear Sameboat,

I would like to ask about the undoing of my edit on the article mentioned above. I would like to clarify these statements:

1. I was just indicating the manufacturer of the platform screen doors in the Singapore paragraph. 2. The Changi Airport Skytrain's previous batch of platform screen doors did feature train service buttons, but based on my previous experience with these doors I felt that these buttons were unnecessary (unless you were in a rush), and that was probably why the present batch of doors did not feature these buttons. 3. The Changi Airport Skytrain's previous batch of platform screen doors featured the Westinghouse Electric (1886) logo on the doors' edges, even though there is a huge difference between that and the Westnghouse Brake And Systems Co. Ltd..

I hope you provide a good reason for this edit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mbssbs (talk • contribs) 09:36, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

- Mbssbs, 23 Mar 2009

Copyright

Dear Sameboat, I feel that you are taking advantage of me when on Image:MTR_Stock_Merger, you have only noted yourself, making it seem that YOU were the uploader. You have also not requested for permission from me when uploading it to Commons. In any case, you may be in violation of Wikipedia rules. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Toyotaboy95 (talk • contribs) 08:12, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

With regards to your latest post to the MTR talk page.

Dear Sameboat,

I would like to ask about your latest post on the MTR talk page. Who is it intended for?

Just would like to have things sorted out, with good faith.

Thanks in advance, --Kylohk 15:10, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Of course for user:Huaiwei. Assume good faith, yeah, but he(she) is the exception. I've just expressed the thought of every offended one in that discussion. -- Sameboat - 同舟 16:19, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Dear samboat,

I did not put anything that was not truthful. They were people not insects. They were MURDERED in cold blood. They were not killed as one kills a mosquito. These were human beings. I may not like people coming to my door and telling me to convert to Christianity either, but I am not going to MURDER them for it. It is blatantly wrong and people should denote it as so - at least out of respect for those who were unjustly murdered. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.47.102.75 (talk) 21:50, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of 2008 Hong Kong celebrities porn photo incident

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2008 HKCPPI

The article is more of a biography of living persons violation; speedy A10 applies there too. Such information concerning living persons must meet stringent criteria for references, with multiple, non-trivial coverage in major publications. A reference from a non-English-language source doesn't have much applicability for such an article on WP:EN, and certainly doesn't meet BLP criteria. Whether or not there's a consensus on ZH: is irrelevant: different wikis have different requirements, although I'd point out the BLP criteria are supposed to be applied equally across all Wikipedias. Acroterion _(talk) 03:24, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Autoblock

Please wait as I contact the blocking admin. Sandstein (talk) 14:25, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

RE:About MTR station article (User talk:TheBigGap)

What is the limit of sizes and number of images in articles? TheBigGap (talk) 11:41, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Lam Tin Station

I added back the image of the plaque - not much point removing it. If you insist on having it taken please explain why. --Deryck C. 10:21, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

The image doesn't override the entire article unless you use a 1600*1200 superwide screen (or above) in full-screen mode... I think it's a bit too paranoid to remove the image. Furthermore, I added the image as requested by another editor about two years ago - apparently there are more unimportant images to remove, especially one or two of them that are present in other articles. I'll wait till you reply, or three days' time if there is no reply, to act. --Deryck C. 14:09, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

I moved the calligraphy to the Lam Tin article - I think calligraphy on the platform is rather less important. Few other stations have plaques but nearly every one has calligraphy. --Deryck C. 14:31, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Let's pray the same. Happy working =) --Deryck C. 14:43, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Railway system graph

Do you mean the new style as in Image:Hong Kong Railway Route Map en.svg? I guess that's better too, since the East TST - Hung Hom section previously was really confusing. – PeterCX&Talk 05:16, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

It's fine for me and I am not against it – PeterCX&Talk 11:16, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Power plant icon

Needless to say, your image of a coal plant is not an appropriate icon for almost all of the energy templates which it was added to, and has been removed. 199.125.109.136 (talk) 21:13, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

KBFa/e

To the majority of editors and viewers, KBFa/e and KBFa/e2 are the same icons and serve the same function. It would be difficult to manage if we make another similar variation. Also, in de: discussion, only two users gave comments: one agree, one waiting for other comments after knowing the situation. After waiting for a few day and have no more replies, I feel that it's quite safe to do the change. – PeterCX&Talk 03:05, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

(replying WT:RDT/C)I guess so, "So I would agree with the suggested change" – PeterCX&Talk 11:23, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Unblock request

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RE Template:Railway line header

Just to let you know that the issue with Template:Railway line header has been sorted - thanks for checking it out. →Ollie (talk • contribs) 22:37, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Your fixing the BS collapsing problem

Thanks very much for your quick response to my posting and for your creating a collapsible BS7 and for your hunting down my page with the problem and for then tweaking it to show what I wanted. Oops! sorry that's only four, not your asked-for five, but they are sincere "Thank you"s. A trouble throughout the BS-business is that everthing seems to have developed ad hoc, not systematically, e.g. some BS#s have a collapsible twin, some don't; the explanatory articles are bashed from German into a sort of English and it would seem that once someone has got to "Oh! that's what it means" later users are left to make the same voyage of discovery; there are several lists of icons.--SilasW (talk) 14:43, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks for fixing the collapsing problem with {{Bergensbanen}}. It is much appreciated, and can now go into the article :) Arsenikk ^(talk) 08:59, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Route diagram template/Catalog of pictograms

Sameboat, You with more skill seem to be trying what I would do, that is to get the explanation page for Route diagram templates and the Catalog of pictograms beaten in shape but it seems that the latest Catalog page (perhaps as a work in progress?) has lost most icons. I had to go to the version before your latest edits to untangle my es and exs and us. Among my many mad thoughts I wondered if the catalogue would be easier to read with collapsible sections, and a few more horizontal rows of the prefixes so that a row always appeared on or near the current screen to avoid long scrolls to find what prefix a column used.--SilasW (talk) 10:16, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Railway Line Template troubles continue

Do you remember that problem I had with the line template on the Template:Long Beach Branch of the Long Island Rail Road back in August and early September 2008? Well, unfortunatly, I'm still having the same problem with the Template:Oyster Bay Branch, and the advice that you offered me isn't helping. ----DanTD (talk) 00:28, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

No, it's just breaking up and not fitting in the infobox, and I'm afraid that it's going to scramble the whole infobox all up again, like the Long Beach Branch, the MBTA, and SEPTA-related infoboxes ended up back then. ----DanTD (talk) 03:55, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

I don't know how to do what you're suggesting. I'm just glad I didn't delete it from my sandbox. ----DanTD (talk) 13:28, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Well, I tried separating the line template before. That created a huge gap, so I cancelled that idea. ----DanTD (talk) 14:22, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

BS templates in JAWP

Thank you for your report on BS templates modifications to JAWP. I replied in ja:Wikipedia‐ノート:経路図テンプレート there, and just have a look. Sorry for slow reply, but JA contributors such as the transplanter ja:User:Jms, and I also, are busy for their other activities. Maxima m (talk) 03:11, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

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Template:Sameboat

Hi there. I've moved Template:Sameboat to User:Sameboat/Sandbox/Template. For future reference, you should always conduct editing tests within your userspace. Cheers! //roux   13:23, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I understand why you put the template into the template space, but templates work perfectly if you build them within your own user pages, which is what you should do if you're just testing how they work. //roux   14:06, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

It works exactly the same, but instead of using {{Template:Sameboat}} you would use {{User:Sameboat/Sandbox/Template}}. All that a template does is copy code from one page to another. You could put {{User talk:Sameboat}} on User:Sameboat, for example, and your entire talkpage would show up on your userpage. //roux   14:13, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Réseau des Bains de Mer

Thanks for the improvement to the diagram. I've tweaked it a bit to show Lanchères-Pendé as still open. I've also redrawn the Chemin de Fer de la Baie de Somme diagram to match. How's your French? I had a go at redrawing the diagram on the French article but couldn't get it to work, so I left it unchanged. Mjroots (talk) 07:57, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

The diagram is the route map on the fr:Chemins de fer départementaux de la Somme article. It is hidden on the French article, click on the "Dérouter" box to show it. Mjroots (talk) 09:50, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

I've not looked at the discussion yet. If you've accidentally created a prolem on fr:wp then revert the edit (if not already done by someone else) to how it was. Mjroots (talk) 15:26, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

The following was left on my talk page, it is directed at you though! Mjroots (talk) 20:43, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Sameboat, I left a message for you in the discussion thread you mentioned before (French Wikipedia).

— ChrisJ (talk) 20:38, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

BS collapsing error returned

Sameboat you quickly corrected this problem when I wrote to you some time ago. It seems to have re-appeared. Yesterday I was tweaking Template:North London Line in my Sandbox and the disruption caused by Showing the hidden comments returned. After thinking that perhaps I had got something wrong I looked at the real template and found that it was misbehaving the same way. Any help would be appreciated--SilasW (talk) 12:01, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Now, later the same day, the real NLL template, which you appear not to have altered, works properly as does your BS4-ed version of my sandbox.--SilasW (talk) 20:50, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Later still - it did not work (which I think you noted in my talk) and you may be busy trying to get icons well listed but -

• This fix (no good for general use) seems always to work and may point to the cause. If the map is broken a click on Hide in the template title then one on the resulting Show sets the secondary Show/Hide to work properly.
• Another thing I saw was that to open the link to an icon then back out of it sometimes stops Show and Hide from breaking the map.
• Also if the word "hide" in the title jumps to the right when the cursor gets near it then the secondary Show will break the map.--SilasW (talk) 20:48, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Today that cure seems none too dependable. I have IE7 but I checked by phone with my tame MS expert who finds the same trouble occurs with IE8--SilasW (talk) 11:49, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

O Sameboat, you seem to say in Wikipedia talk:Route diagram template that it does not occur in IE7 but it does (see just above), perhaps I misunderstood you. What happened in the previous paragraph was that the Template code from my computer was run remotely in IE8 with failure as consistent as ever.--SilasW (talk) 16:50, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

I do not know what your latest addition (overiding a collapsible's parameter) was to do but the breakage continues; as I think you've already said it seems as though OVER is involved.--SilasW (talk) 12:52, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

v . d . e |

I have posted similar on Template talk:BS-header

This revision has added a | after the v.d.e which is now appears to be a unique addition to the use of v.d.e, other templates do not appear to use this addition. I do not think it adds anything. Many articles with the RDT also have other v.d.e templates which do not have this addition (cf Clydesdale Junction Railway) and to my mind it does not look right. I would rather view to this rather than removing it myself.

It may be more prudent to keep any discussion on Template talk:BS-header --Stewart ^{(talk | edits)} 09:43, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

TTC images

This is not a valid reason for speedy deletion. If you really have a problem with these images, take it to the relevant project or images for deletion to seek a consensus. the wub "?!" 10:58, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Crocodile tears

In the Edison Chen photo scandal article, I notice that you replaced 'fake tears'. I had thought against using that term originally, for the reason that Cecilia used 'the cat crying over the mouse' (in cantonese). Basically we would be mixing animals in Chinese/English. Ohconfucius (talk) 05:22, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

A thought about icon lists

Sameboat, Recently you put the rail map icons into lists by type to shorten a very long article, with links in the shortened original article to your new lists. Now a template in all route maps calls up the shortened list and to find particular icons needs further clicking. Do you think it would be more convenient if the template that calls in the short "top" list were altered (or replaced by another) to show the links for the sub-lists (and similar lists) directly? All the current left-is-right, right-is-wrong, ----is-H, ----is q, what-is-3 chaos means one often has to consult a list. A very imperfect try at showing my thought is here.
Your reply would be valued.--SilasW (talk) 13:51, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

PRC talk page

I just saw your comment on the PRC just a while ago. "'are you just removing it due to the negative nature in which is depicts the PRC?"' this is assuming bad faith of Wmrwiki's removal, please avoid it later'. I must disagree with you. WP:AGF shows how one should not word it. I asked a question, which, imho, was not assuming bad faith, as I did not accuse him of having an ulterior motive in removing said picture. Thanks, Ono (talk) 22:25, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

You have absolutely no way of knowing my intentions, and I am angered that you jump to assumptions about my edits, especially when I have offered no reason for you to do so. You need to take your own advice and assume good faith that my comment was not wrong, until you can prove that I was not assuming good faith in reverting his edit, which did not have english in its edit summary, so a good portion of the readers cant tell what he said. Thanks, Ono (talk) 23:18, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Template:BS-Infobox and Template talk:BS-Infobox

Re Template talk:BS-Infobox#Units, rail gauge templates and conversion templates, please see my remarks there. Peter Horn 18:34, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Can't find icons

Hi, I'm having difficulty constructing a diagram, I have written my full question at User talk:AlisonW#Can't find icons, but have not had a response - please see that page for details. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:41, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

October 2009

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Wu Kai Sha Station. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Please stop the disruption, otherwise you may be blocked from editing. (warning both parties) tedder (talk) 07:08, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

TESTING123 bug fixed

Please see my comment dated 08:05, 1 December 2009 (UTC) in Wikipedia talk:Route diagram template #Alt text in route diagrams. Eubulides (talk) 08:07, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

IP block 2009-12-02

I have forwarded your request to Wikipedia:WikiProject on open proxies/Unblock. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 12:19, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

ping

Template_talk:BS-overlap#Alt_text_support_consensus —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 13:40, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Your revert

Please revert only what you disagree. Do not revert everything while you disagree with only part of an edit. 09:53, 24 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.118.130.101 (talk)

The article correspondes to the Chinese version which covers both sections. Considering the article length of the Chinese version, there's no sign of dividing. And your new edits are lacking of wp:reliable source and not following the wp:MOS. Since I'm not interested in your concepts, if your edits do not follow any Wikipedia guideline and policy, I will revert them immediately. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 10:19, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Do you speak English? It's hard to understand what you said. And I think everyone would agree with edits such as correcting the name of a newspaper, from its old name to its current name. There's no point to discredit my edits by accusing me for not providing reliable source or not following MOS. 10:44, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

You should create another article like Guangzhou-Shenzhen-Hong Kong Express Rail Link Hong Kong section rather than modify Guangzhou-Shenzhen-Hong Kong Express Rail Link which is intented to cover the whole network from Hong Kong to Guangzhou as it is in the Chinese version zh:廣深港高速鐵路. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 10:50, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Please stop vandalising the article. Thanks. 11:03, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

And by the way as far as I know the MOS suggests to italicise names of newspapers. I don't think the MOS would have suggest to use an old name of a newspaper. 11:07, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

I've created this article intented to cover both sections as in Chinese Wikipedia. Outnumbering by the content of of HK section doesn't justify the removal of Mainland section. You're the one vandaling. Once again, you should create another article rather than modify the existing one to your liking. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 11:10, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Nobody owns any article on Wikipedia. And the editorial policy on the English-language version of Wikipedia is not determined by other versions. Do you actually speak English? I don't understand what you meant by "Outnumbering by the content..." and "vandaling". Most important of all, I did nothing to remove what is mentioned about the Mainland Section. I.e., I've kept everything in the article about the Mainland Section. 11:14, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

I don't own the article, but that's not the reason to alternate the purpose of the article: to cover both sections. If you want an article to cover the HK section only, please create another one. And the reason to remove the Legislative Council debate is due to lack of wp:inline citation and the reliable source. The guideline Wikipedia:Spellchecking also requires editors to follow the dialect used in the first non-stub version of the article, so your change of English dialect is not rational. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 11:30, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Don't pretend. What you did was not merely singling out sentences without source. What you did was to revert everything, to the extent that you have kept replacing the current name of a newspaper with its an old name, and to undo clarifications to the construction timeframe mentioned in the article. English is the official language in Hong Kong, and British spellings are used here. Wikipedia policies suggest using the spelling of where the article talks about. 12:00, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Firstly, I stop revert your edit because you seem to treat both HK and Mainland sections equally. 2nd, I reverted the unsourced passage at once because you must learn youself how important the wp:reliable source and wp:citation are (if you want to provide the source later, just don't write in the information). As for the dialect, nowadays China doesn't particularily prefer British over American English, so the words should retain their original selves unless the spelling is indeed incorrect. You said I pretend, but I stopped reversion when you complied, so your accusation is pointless. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 12:31, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

To repeat I have removed nothing about the Mainland Section. And, second, what I had done was to show you what you shouldn't have reverted. 19:02, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Then what's the point of this edition: [1]? You're self-contradictory. Initially you intented to change the article's subject to focus on the HK section only, but it seems that eventually you no longer insist on that Guangzhou-Shenzhen-Hong Kong Express Rail Link Hong Kong Section thing. Why is the change of mind? -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 00:11, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Can you read English? I've already told you that it was done to show you what you shouldn't have reverted. If you really know Wikipedia policies as you have claimed, the 3RR rule isn't violated by undoing simple vandalism. 09:24, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

(...)it was done to show you what you shouldn't have reverted. This is absurd and waste of resource. If you understand that part of your edit is disputed and unsourced, there's no excuse to restore them before a better version is submitted. (Register an account and open your own sandboxes then you're free to sketch everything you want.) You can't blame me for reverting the whole edit just because some of the less (non) disputed contents were reverted as well. If you're smart enough, you should not mix them together in 1 edit in the first place but go to the article talk page. There's no way I can trust an anon's faith with such drastic modification to the article. (Things might change if you're a registered user with constructive edit history.) -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 14:52, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

" [2] My action wasn't vandalism as you claim. Actually the one who protected the article doesn't express approval of either side, so stop being self-righteous. I won't repeaet it: I reverted them because you changed the Guangzhou-Shenzhen-Hong Kong Express Rail Link to Guangzhou-Shenzhen-Hong Kong Express Rail Link Hong Kong Section at the start of the article (and almost proposed to move the article that I would never agree) and didn't provide citation to unsourced information. To sysops' perspective, it's merely an edit dispute. If they took the case seriously, both of us would be blocked for week or month, not only me. I stopped revert until your edit finally met my expectation. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 10:43, 25 December 2009 (UTC) "

— By undoing constructive and necessary edits without any reason for so many times, you had already been vandalising. Period. 19:42, 25 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.118.130.101 (talk)

That doesn't justify your unnecessarily restoration of problemtic edit. (And then brand me a vandal by mixing small amount of "constructive" content in your edit, you're too clever in such thing.) Your action only wastes the resource of Wikipedia. Period. And remember to sign after your message (Even you don't sign, the signbot will still leave the autosign, further wasting Wikipedia resource). -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 00:28, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

I'm not banned as you wish. It's just a farce between you and me. Apparently no sysops or admin is interested anymore. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 00:34, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Please stop vandalising the article. 11:10, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Strength of overlays

Sameboat, Could you explain this apparently inconsistent effect when overlaying?

Sometimes the superimposed icon has white where the underlying one has a colour and that white kills the underlying colour (which can be the desired effect), but sometimes it seems the "white" parts are merely absences of colour and so the combination consists of most of the coloured elements of both icons.

An example is in the version of User:SilasW/Sandbox7 with the edit comment "(Hold showing differing "transparencies")". Near the top Vauxhall station is made of INT on hSTR and the red line of hSTR has not bled through the white centre of INT, but in the isolated BS8 at the very bottom an attempt at making hKRZhu by overlaying hSTRq on hSTR gives a right tartan mess.--SilasW (talk) 17:01, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the explanation in User talk:SilasW. The other's argument hardly holds ("many more intersections coming") as the number of icons has increased uncontrollably and beyond the abilities of those who strive to catalogue them or keep meaningful unique affixes. The recently added multiple overlay facility (your doing I think) can use the real white of your hSTRq2 and hSTR2 to fudge fairly acceptable representions of "h" (or "-ELEV"?!?) of ABZ3xx icons, see the current User:SilasW/Sandbox7.--SilasW (talk) 16:46, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

ABZ3.. icons

Rail map curiosity

Sameboat, I hate to pester you but you seem to know about these things. If I open Heathrow Airtrack the text in the map is misaligned, it seems to be roughly centred rather than left(not the driver's left!)-justified but if I hit "v" or "e" the text is correctly aligned.--SilasW (talk) 18:18, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Hawkhurst Branch Line

Thanks for your edit to the template, but it wasn't that which needed hiding. I've created track diagrams for all stations and sidings in my sandbox. I wanted to add the track diagrams for the sidings to the article, but it was these which needed to be normally hidden. If you look at the Hawkhurst Branch Line article now you will see them included, and see why this was the case. Mjroots (talk) 12:50, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Re your revised diagram. I don't like it because of the purple section added to the diagram, which is not good aesthetically. Also, it is not necessary to display the main line diagram as collapsed because it fits in neatly in the article where it is, with the table of contents to the left of the diagram. The ToC would still be there if the diagram was collapsed, and there would be an area of whitespace which the template currently fills. Thanks for suggesting it and trying to improve the article. Mjroots (talk) 13:13, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

IP block 2010-01-13

I have edited your user groups so that you should be able to edit through the IP block. Please post here again to confirm that it worked or that it needs further tweaking. Thanks! TNXMan 14:36, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

I guess the IP block has been lifted before you changing my user group so I can edit not long after the blocking. Anyway thanks for your help. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 14:45, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Great! If you have further questions, just drop me a line. TNXMan 14:47, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Template:Main Line

hey thanks again for all your help. There is still one problem remaining. the view/discuss/edit (V.D.E) tab works good one the template page, but if you click on these in the article Main Line, Tasmania, it directs you to a page not in use called Template:Main Line, Tasmania. Can you fix please? Wiki ian 00:11, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Whate have i done wrong here? It looked fine until i added your purge link at the bottom and now the line looks jaggered and doesn't match up, or is this an IE8 issue? if i have done something wrong can you please fix it? Cheers Wiki ian 03:45, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry to bother you yet again, but I'm having the same problem again...this time on the Emu Bay Template. I tried changing the width in multiples of 10 from 150 to 300 without success. How do you judge what width the infobox needs to be set at? Wiki ian 12:04, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

		The Railways Barnstar
		Your knowledge of Railway Templates is Godlike. Thankyou for all your help:)

Wiki ian 12:46, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

One More Time

I started a new Template, and followed your instructions for width (using Paint Shop Pro). It gave me 134-136 measuring from the start of the text to the last bracket in [Show] however i still have no luck. I tried 130, 135, 140 and 145. What am I doing wrong? should i be adding or subtracting |? Wiki ian 03:10, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

HK Railway map route map

The proposed expansion of the MTR Island Line includes four new stations. One of them is HKU which you named Hong Kong University. However it is only called that in short form aka HKU. It should read "University of Hong Kong" in full. See here 203.218.213.77 (talk) 03:18, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I'm fully aware that University of Hong Kong is indeed the formal English name for the university. The name used in Wikipedia articles (Hong Kong University Station) and images are based on the official documents released by MTR[3] [4]. Wikipedia requires every information bases on the reliable source. As for railway-related topics, we cite the sources from the railway company over the university itself. Off the topic, if you're interested in Wikipedia, please register an acount and join us. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 03:42, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Level crossing icons

I've replied at Wikipedia_talk:Route_diagram_template re the new icon. Mjroots (talk) 11:42, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

another day, another question

Hello again Sameboat, I'm currently working on Template:West Coast Wilderness Railway and have some questions for you.

• How do i get the view/discuss/edit icons on the top left of the header?
• I made it so it is auto collopased, however when you press show/hide, the width of the box changes, how do you fix that?
• And finally is there a way to merge the route map with the already present info box in West Coast Wilderness Railway?

Thankyou for your time. Wiki ian 05:34, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Help me again my template magican

Hey Sameboat, i know this isn't a railway template, but since you've proven how good you are with the railways i thought you might know how to fix this. Cant see the whole thing on IE8, maybe the same on other browsers. Thankyou Wiki ian 22:56, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

S-Bahn icons

Sameboat, Some editors may know exactly what icon name produces what picture but even after you split the icons into groups it is a pain to call up and scroll just to find that strange useful one that was seen once but now when wanted cannot be remembered.

As a first step to making things easier I have put all S-Bahn icons from en.WP lists into this. They are not used in en.WP so they make scrolling a longer process than it could be. Also I have tried to shorten their descriptions to fit on one line so the tables are more compact (at least to me). Although my article says the S-Bahn icons have been moved I have left them in their original lists until I hear if there is a terrible screaming.

What do you think of my idea? If it is an improvement, {{bsicon}} could be altered.--SilasW (talk) 19:27, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

TWA

I noticed that you added the TOC tag to the TWA Flight Center article. This is very useful; I guess what it does is it places the toc, vs. the toc going wherever. Are there any other tags like that, that help clean up the formatting of sections, etc.?842U (talk) 15:26, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

List of revolutions

Is the new caption I provided ok?--Work permit (talk) 06:24, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

tvm, I understand now--Work permit (talk) 06:30, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

This is the only warning you will receive for your disruptive edits.
The next time you disrupt Wikipedia, as you did to Template:HK-MTR lines, you will be blocked from editing. A clear consensus has emerged in this matter. If you continue to edit against the established consensus, you will be reported to the administrators. 81.111.114.131 (talk) 05:50, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

WP:ANI

Out of courtesy I am informing you that a report pertaining to you has been filed at WP:ANI. You can find the report here. Rgoodermote  06:50, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Imagemap

Template:Imagemap has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:51, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

HK-MTR lines

See here. Thanks! Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 02:24, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Hi

You undid an edit that I had made in accordance w/MOS on photos, putting a photo on the right that I had put on the left. I would like to put it back, but wanted to drop by here in the event that I was missing any rationale that you might have for that. Tx.--Epeefleche (talk) 04:05, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Since you commented on my page, I responded there.--Epeefleche (talk) 05:21, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

I've again responded on my talk page (and will only comment there in the future on this string). Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 04:31, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Using narrow icons

Sameboat, I looked for information about this problem with no success so I seek your help.

These two narrow icons display for me on that page as abnormally fat and high.

Part of a test piece of mine of narrow icons and parallel tracks is copied from Axpde.

I changed his BS10s to BS9s and cut out his top right icon (as the reader sees it) which was dSTR. The plot was fine. Then I put dSTR in an isolated empty slot in a BS9 just to keep a note of what I had cut off. The dSTR displayed fat and tall. I added a BS10 with the dSTR in its original place and dSTR has again displayed gigantic.

What am I doing wrong?--SilasW (talk) 19:10, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

My edits at BS-templates

Here in en:WP, the images are much larger than at de:WP. therefore I've added this feature only for small cases, using BS and BS2. From BS3 to BS9, i've undone it, to prevent exeeding 500 uses. For details, see my answer on my talkpage. Antonsusi (talk) 02:54, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Icon request

Hi, can you created green versions of the CONT Icons. The reason I ask is that I'm trying to improve the diagram of the Réseau Breton, and I've had to resort to three colours. I will also need other icons creating later, as I need to show some dual gauge track. Would it be possible to have half light blue and half light green in an icon (split vertically)? Another option would be alternate blocks of blue and green. Anyway, take a look at the diagram and see what you think. Mjroots (talk) 15:27, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Sameboat, there is WP:NORUSH. Have a look at the diagram in my sandbox linked above. The area around Morlaix is where the requested icons are going to be used. The blue CONT icons need to be changed to green where they denote the CF de L'Ouest line between Paris and Brest. The bridge over the CF Amoricains needs a new icon to denote dual gauge track, as does the station icon. The RB had connections with a number of metre and standard gauge lines. If at all possible I want to show these. Mjroots (talk) 07:48, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Oops! I thought I had given a link to the diagram. Here it is - User:Mjroots/sandbox#Railway diagram. Mjroots (talk) 07:50, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Re the diagram, I want to get its shape right first, with all branches and connections in. Once that has been done, colours can be tweaked and extra icons created as necessary. Mjroots (talk) 07:04, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

diagram is now correct as to form, but icons need to be sorted out with respect to colours. Mjroots (talk) 17:36, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

You are now a Reviewer

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Combining Infobox Tunnel with Infobox rdt

Hi Sameboat. I like putting route maps into Infobox rail line using Infobox rdt. Then I found a route map on nl.wikipedia for Furka Base Tunnel. I translated it into English, and made it into a route map template (see Template:Furka-Basistunnel). I wanted to insert that route map into Infobox tunnel for the Furka Base Tunnel article. So I modified Template:Infobox Tunnel, but there's now a problem. If I don't try to use Infobox rdt to transclude, the route map breaks apart. But if I try to use Infobox rdt, Infobox Tunnel displays the following at the top of the route map:

  "{| class="toccolours collapsible" border=0 cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border:0px solid;float:center; clear:right; margin:0; empty-cells:show;text-align:right;font-weight:normal;"

It also messes up the article layout a bit at the top left.

Are you able to fix this problem? The combination of Infobox Tunnel and the route map would look really good if you can. Bahnfrend (talk) 08:51, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi Sameboat. Thanks for your help. It looks great now. I'm sorry it's taken me so long to send my thanks. Regards, Bahnfrend (talk) 14:23, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Imagemap

Template:Imagemap has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 08:11, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

False positive report

The other day you submitted a false positive report because you found yourself unable to edit someone's talk page. If you have not already seen, it was due to an accident in the code of a particular edit filter which was quickly fixed by the MediaWiki software itself. The code has been reverted to the last good version and this should not happen again. Thank you for bringing this to our attention, however; if people hadn't reported it we wouldn't have known there was a problem. I have removed the false positive reports as I felt it was easier to just go to the people who submitted them directly. —Soap— 23:39, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

commons image question

Hi, I've left you a question at commons:User talk:Sameboat#Is my file correctly named. Would appreciate your reply. --Redrose64 (talk) 18:29, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

It seems user:Axpde is active recently. (S)He's definitely the better person to answer your inquiry. You may leave the msg in his Commons page too. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 01:22, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Have asked Axpde at Commons. --Redrose64 (talk) 18:20, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Overlaid Icons

Hi Sameboat. All this BS doing is in a mess. There are hundreds of icons whose name is completely unguessable and there seem to be no published rules on how to use them. One pokes and gropes. For example the result of "|ICON|" is obtained by "|bbbICONbbb|" where "bbb" means any number of blanks, the blanks can make it easier to line up icons. Again much is "learnt" not by instruction but by copying what another user has done, perhaps in a foreign WP. I came across a rail template with Overlays which were not at the end of the template where I had always seen them, but followed the icon they were to overlay so I wondered this:

• Can the working of overlays be made so that "|ICON|O=THIS|O=THAT|O=ANOTHER|..." works without the need to give the icon's place number (because the Overs immediately follow their base icon) and without a count for the Overs (eg O4= O42= O43..) because they are in order next to the base Icon? Losing the Icon place numbers would simplify changing the BS number.--SilasW (talk) 19:30, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

I can answer that in a word: no.

This is because the overlay feature is achieved by the use of named parameters; and if the same named parameter occurs more than once in a single template transclusion, all instances except the last are ignored. So, your example would be interpreted as "|ICON|O=ANOTHER|". --Redrose64 (talk) 20:52, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for not replying instantly. A better way to use the overlay paras is simply write them immediately after the "base" icon parameter before the next base icon.
For example,
{{BS3|STR|O1=uSTRq|O12=INT legende|O13=WASSER|STR|O2=WASSER|STR|O3=WASSER}}
as opposed to
{{BS3|STR|STR|STR|O1=uSTRq|O12=INT legende|O13=WASSER|O2=WASSER|O3=WASSER}}
Both methods will have the same result, but the former writing will allow you to better observe the overlaying usage on the respective base icon. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 01:21, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Thank you,(xie xie)?, Sameboat, for your reply. My belief is that Programs are to serve People and not that People are to serve Programs. As you say the best place for overlays is immediately after their base icons (I found that only by nosing about in other users' Sandboxes.)
What I ask is this:
"Can the program that overlays icons be modified so that a string of icons which are to be overlaid on a base icon (let's call it "BASE") needs:

• neither the position count of "BASE" because in ((BS8|..|BASE|O2=ICONa|...)) the overlaid ICONa would immediately follow its base,
• nor the successive overlaying numbers because the overlaying icons would already be in order, as in ((BS8| |BASE|O2=ICONa|O22=ICONb|O23=ICONc|...))?"
  

The programming I did in the days of my youth could have handled such an improvement, even if "O" is so embedded that another "variable", say "U" for "UPON" is needed or a new separator is used to stop the next "|" kicking in:

• ((BS8|..|BASE|U=ICONa|U=ICONb|U=ICONc|Next Base Icon|...)) or (¿¿¿better???)
• ((BS8|..|BASE+ICONa+ICONb+ICONc|Next Base Icon...|...))--SilasW (talk) 15:07, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Actually the Wiki parser function might not be able to accomplish your suggestion. The problem with the first example has been explained by Redrose64, you can't have the same parameter applied more than once and expecting multiple outcomes. The 2nd suggestion is also nearly impossible that you would need a separate template served as a database like {{BS-alt}} to cover all the possible combinations of the icons, which is hardly ideal. A compromise to your suggestion is creating a new set of alternative BS row templates that would have successive icon parameter lined up like this: 1=base1, 2=overlay1-1, 3=overlay1-2, 4=overlay1-3, 5=overlay1-4, 6=overlay1-5, 7=base2 and so forth. You see, this is no better than retaining the named overlaying parameters as they're now, until MetaWiki eventually upgrading their parser functions. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 12:47, 13 September 2010 (UTC)