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Thank you! If you add inline citations it would be good for DYK and worth being known ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:55, 9 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In the crypt lie the remains of Saints Anthony, John, and Eustathios. A tradition of the church is to cloak them in black during Lent, in white at Christmas and in red on other major religious holidays.
@Gerda Arendt: I was a little confused about what exactly gets draped. At first I assumed there were sarcophagi in the crypt, but then there's the reliquary — which, however, is not in the crypt, it's in the sanctuary, according to the photos.
(German WP: In der Krypta befinden sich die Heiligen Jonas, Eustachius und Antanas. Eine Eigenart der Gemeinde ist, dass diese Heiligen zu Weihnachten weiß, während der Fastenzeit schwarz und zu anderen hohen kirchlichen Feiertagen in rot überkleidet werden.) Sca (talk) 22:31, 10 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
(I looked up the German ;) ) The German has no "remains", just "the Saints". If it was sculptures, the dressing would make sense, - however, how would undressing work? Perhaps the German is not original, but already a misunderstanding? I was there, but not in the crypt. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:35, 10 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I figure "remains" is vague enough to apply to whatever's in the reliquary, if that's what's meant. As far as die Heiligen, that seems to imply more complete remains — but those were 14th C. saints, if I remember correctly.
Never assume anything, as we used to say in the news biz. Sca (talk) 22:39, 10 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Flensburg[edit]

I wonder if you could clarify the caption to the image whose caption begins, "The Sportschool in Mürwik", which appears at the right in the section "History as a German town", in the article on Flensburg.

Let me take this opportunity to wish you a happy holiday -- a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. CorinneSD (talk) 21:57, 20 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sca, are you keeping an eye on Flensburg? What do you think about this table that was added? [1] It seems unsourced. Also, in the section Flensburg#Population development, there is a chart whose title is in German. Don't you think the title should be in English? Also, what do you think of the layout in that section? It's not clear to me whether the sentences at the beginning of the section apply only to the vertical table or to both the table and the chart. CorinneSD (talk) 16:07, 9 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Ja, the pop chart should be in English – Bevoelkerungsentwicklung = population development. The sentence about advertising flyers should be deleted as insignificant. Sca (talk) 23:33, 9 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I meant these sentences:
  • Population figures are for respective municipal areas through time. Until 1870, figures are mostly estimates, and thereafter census results (¹) or official projections from either statistical offices or the town administration itself.
Since the table and the graph are both under these sentences, it's not clear whether the sentences apply only to the table or to both the table and the graph. CorinneSD (talk) 00:16, 10 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Where is the sentence on advertising flyers? Couldn't find it. CorinneSD (talk) 00:19, 10 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Here. Sca (talk) 01:02, 10 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Jutland[edit]

I have just read the article on Jutland and made a few minor copy-edits. I need your help on something. If you read the first two paragraphs of the article, you might see some repetition of words in the last sentence of the first paragraph and the last sentence of the second paragraph, about "the German state of", "the German part of", and "Schleswig-Holstein". If you read the two sentences carefully, I think you'll see that they are almost the same sentence but written in opposite order. I'm wondering if you could figure out a way to combine those two sentences to reduce the repetition and make the sentence or sentences more concise. (I'm not sure in which of the two paragraphs it should be placed.) CorinneSD (talk) 22:16, 20 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Frisian islands[edit]

Hello, Sca -- There is something wrong with the last sentence in the third paragraph of the lede in Frisian islands. Can you help fix it? CorinneSD (talk) 00:58, 22 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Topic[edit]

[Wytsman]

Sca: I see you've been working on the Rodolphe Wytsman article. That's great. I'd like to point out that you've been adding spaced em-dashes, or changing spaced en-dashes to spaced em-dashes. If you read WP:EMDASH, particularly the sections "Unspaced em dash" and "Spaced en dash", you will see that em-dashes are to be unspaced -- that is, with no space either side of them -- and en-dashes are to be spaced except for certain specific uses such as date ranges, etc. Which to use is a matter of preference, but it should be consistent within an article. Personally, I prefer the spaced en-dash, but I'll leave the choice up to you. Right now, they are inconsistent, so they need fixing. CorinneSD (talk) 16:39, 27 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

H. L. Mencken[edit]

Sca, I'd like your opinion on an edit I made to H. L. Mencken that was undone. See also User talk:Rothorpe#H. L. Mencken. CorinneSD (talk) 17:34, 27 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Claude Monet - The Magpie - Google Art Project.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Armbrust The Homunculus 20:43, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Peace[edit]

Nez Perce Tomahawk
In 1877, Chief Joseph of the Nez Perce famously said, "I will fight no more forever."

OK, Sca, let's forget it. I am still a bit hurt and angry - but let's forget it. I don't want to start a new year like this, and actually most of all it maked me sad to notice that CorinneSD got hurt, and I Don't like it. Hafspajen (talk) 08:13, 31 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hafs, I've been searching unsuccessfully for a painting of "burying the hatchet." Can you find one?

I regret acting hastily re Baluschek. I'm sorry it offended you so.
Let's consider the whole thing an unfortunate misunderstanding and put it behind us.
Hopefully in the year ahead we can work enjoyably together again. Sca (talk) 14:38, 31 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I am so happy to see that you two have "buried the hatchet". You were both very gracious to each other. Hafs, I just wished you a Happy New Year on my talk page. Sca, I wish you a Happy New Year. I hope 2015 is a great year for you. Best wishes, CorinneSD (talk) 18:03, 31 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ciurlionis[edit]

As it is now, how many pictures do you see per row? File:Сельское кладбище.tif Hafspajen (talk) 22:37, 3 January 2015 (UTC) I am affraid that explains it. On your screen the rows are uneven. It looks like it's missing a last picture. Made rows 5, so now every screen is 5 per row, mine too. Now it really neds +1. Hafspajen (talk) 22:45, 3 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I mean the last row has only four pics, while the other ones have 5. Go ahead and add it, please. Hafspajen (talk) 22:49, 3 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I believe Yngvadottir mentioned this during our past ... ahem ...discussions. Thanks. Sca (talk) 22:52, 3 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Well... yeah. She was right. Hafspajen (talk) 23:16, 3 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Arboreal longevity[edit]

Arldt: Lime tree in in Kaditz, c. 1840 (litho.)
Trunk and bench, 2012

The Kaditz Lime Tree is said to date from the 13th century, when according to local lore it was planted in a churchyard in Kaditz, now part of Dresden. In German the tree is known as die Kaditzer Linde. (In British English, "lime" is the name for the linden tree; in U.S. English it's basswood.) In the mid-18th century, the Kaditz lime was severely damaged by a fire and the huge tree — with a girth of about 60 feet – developed a partially hollow trunk. In the 19th century, the Kaditz lime acquired fame as landmark, and in the 20th century it was declared a natural monument. A semicircular bench was built around part of it, while the cavity in the trunk was barricaded by a metal fence. In 2004, the Dresdner Neuesten Nachrichten termed it "the Methuselah of the trees."

First installment[edit]

I've started editing and uploading some of the Danzig notes. Right now it's pre-Gulden, and I've only edited the complete issues (in some cases that may only be one or two notes in a series). Gulden are in progress.--Godot13 (talk) 06:36, 13 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Å[edit]

Å. Hafspajen (talk) 19:04, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oh. Sca (talk) 22:50, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, Åh! It is called å! Hafspajen (talk) 15:44, 22 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I like them! I had posted a picture long time ago at Der Blaue Reiter with the hope someone nominate it some day. Do you want it? (to nominate it)? Hafspajen (talk) 15:15, 25 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No thanks. If you or someone else does, I'll support.
Klimt: Upper-Austrian Farmhouse
(Klimt is about as abstract as I get; I seem to remember that you don't like him.) Sca (talk) 16:23, 25 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Talking about Klimt, just added some superb google files on his article. That I don't intend to nominate. But the chance is there. --Hafspajen (talk) 16:38, 25 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Friedrich: Neubrandenburg (c. 1816)
Exacly. Hafspajen (talk) 18:21, 25 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Eh, nothing is wrong... I think. Hafspajen (talk) 22:53, 25 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
There was something else but fixed that too.
Again this year I have a Klimt calendar on the wall above my computer. Half the 12 paintings are landscapes or trees. Good to know he didn't paint only the funky female figures he's famous for. Sca (talk) 14:55, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Found that picture. And added it. I actually think of making an article on it, are you in? I am no snatcher. Asking because you found this one. Hafspajen (talk) 00:10, 6 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Sca that is fantastic, you must nominate it!!! Friedrich: Neubrandenburg . Hafspajen (talk) 23:10, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

First issue East & West German Mark (1948)[edit]

1948 first-issue East and West German One-Mark notes.

Hi Sca- I think this was one of the areas of interest you expressed. The East German Mark is a 1937 Rentenmark, with a 1948 validation coupon/stamp attached. I believe the coupon issue was only accepted as currency for 5-6 weeks. The West German Mark was issued by the Allied occupation forces.--Godot13 (talk) 20:59, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

1923 Rentenmark
Godot: Interesting. I didn't know such expedients as the stamped old Rentenmark existed – nor that the Rentenmark, first issued in 1923 to replace the hyperinflated Reichsmark, continued after the Nazis seized power in '33 – alongside a resurrected Reichsmark.
As you may know, the new West & East marks came out later in '48. Sca (talk) 21:24, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Mucha-designed art on 1920 Republic of Czechoslovakia 100 Korun note.
Mucha-designed art on 1920 Republic of Czechoslovakia 100 Korun note.

Mucha banknote[edit]


Comment[edit]

I might suggest (if you haven't already) that you just leave things alone with TRM and just move forward; it's not worth it. 331dot (talk) 14:57, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. I was tempted to counter his personal comments with some of my own, but what would be the point? Sca (talk) 15:03, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Not much. I am willing to have a genuine good-faith conversation with him to resolve any differences, but he so far doesn't seem willing to do the same thing. I hope he changes his mind because I really do want to get along with him. 331dot (talk) 15:39, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I used to think he and I could reach an understanding, but given his persistent manner I don't have much hope for that anymore. Sca (talk) 15:54, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Idiot & Oddity
Idiot & Oddity

Apparently we are idiots now, too. Very disappointing. 331dot (talk) 20:29, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Gustav Klimt - Beech Grove I - Google Art Project.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Armbrust The Homunculus 22:23, 4 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Appearance, preview font[edit]

How can I get out of this typewriter-font preview mode back to the previous one, which was much easier to read?

Also, why does the display/appearance of everything on WP look sketchy today? (Other websites look normal.)

Sca (talk) 13:55, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

WP looks normal to me today. Maybe clear your browser cache, and double check your preferences pane? SemanticMantis (talk) 15:11, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
What OS? --  Gadget850 talk 15:17, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Windows Vista. Sca (talk)
Typically, that happens if the style sheet has not been loaded properly, and the web browser uses the default styles. If it is a transient error, a reload will often fix it. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 15:44, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
How would I reload the stylesheet? Sorry I'm not familiar with these matters. Sca (talk) 14:30, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
To reload the site style sheets, simply refresh the page. If you are still having problems, please tell us the original issue, what you have done and wht the issue is now. --  Gadget850 talk 14:45, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Probably due to the above. -- [[User:Edokter]] {{talk}} 16:06, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
When fonts start going funny on you, a reboot is the first thing to try. StuRat (talk) 17:10, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

 Done — Preview font still looks weird (for one thing, dashes & hyphs aren't visible). Sca (talk) 17:11, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

To recap, yesterday (2/12) I loaded a bunch of Windows Vista updates. (I loaded another one this a.m.) When I went to WP, I found that typography didn't look normal, and more important, that in edit mode the preview font had changed to a faint, sketchy typewriter-style font – in which hyphs & dashes aren't even visible.
I did fiddle around in preferences-appearance, but soon went back to MonoBook, the format I prefer. Since then I've refreshed and reloaded pages multiple times, and of course shut down & restarted the computer several times. I'm still having the same problem with the preview font, which is very annoying – although otherwise the appearance of the site is somewhat different but OK.
I'm not at all sure the change is due to the updates, because they dealt, as far as I can tell, solely with security issues. Sca (talk) 15:40, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Update KB3013455 has a known issue with font corruption. Uninstall it. --  Gadget850 talk 15:46, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Well, KB3013455 (titled Security Update for Windows Vista) is listed on Update History for 2/12 (along with a bunch of others), but when I go to Uninstall or Change a Program (under Programs and Features on the Control Panel), it's not listed. All that's listed there as having been installed on 2/12 is Compatibility Pack for the 2007 Office system. I'm somewhat nervous about uninstalling the whole thing, but I'm not a techie and don't really understand these things. Sca (talk) 16:47, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
PS: Would changing the browser make any diff? (Using Firefox.) Sca (talk) 18:23, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Start → Control Panel → Programs → View Installed Updates → select KB3013455 → Uninstall
--  Gadget850 talk 18:33, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I think I'm finally gettin' it.... Sca (talk) 22:13, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
 Done — Thanks much for your help. Sca (talk) 22:27, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
PS: after uninstalling KB3013455 ystdy, MS told me this morning (2/14) they had another update, so I installed it and – Bingo! – same prob. It turned out to be KB3013455 again, and had to uninstall it again. If the problem is "known," why don't they FIX the %#@!&*># thing? Sca (talk) 16:02, 14 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Microsoft still says the same at http://support.microsoft.com/kb/3013455. I don't have more info and haven't searched for it. You can avoid the repeated installs and uninstalls. Details may vary but at a time where it's not installed: Manually start Micosoft/Windows update via the Start menu. Search for updates. Locate KB3013455 in the available updates. Right click it and select hide. It's still possible to unhide it later if you want to install it. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:15, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Savitsky: Na voinu (1888)

Two things you like: trains and Russians.Hafspajen (talk) 19:55, 19 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

They must have been off to the Crimean War (1853-56), which the Russkis lost. Sca (talk) 22:15, 19 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Added it, but it would be better if you had an article on it - somehow... looks good in the article. Hafspajen (talk) 16:29, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Found the pipe[edit]

Norwegian[edit]

Wiki-Room — Is that you pointing?
Harald's mountains look like meringue
You mean this one? But, no fox!

Interesting composition with the fox – I quite like it.

You could add it to Harald Sohlberg. Sca (talk) 17:05, 26 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

there is already one looking like this.... in the gallery. Hafspajen (talk) 00:01, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hm, maybe we should change it. No fox!! Hafspajen (talk) 00:50, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Here is the Google translation of the Russian description on the image file page for the Voloskov-za-chainym-stolom image (living room with people, including the man who is pointing):
  • The tea table. The painting was done in the estate GS Tarnow Kachanivka Chernigov province. Hairs painted room who bore the name of the flashlight with fashionable for the time Gothic motifs in the decoration. Among the persons sitting at the table on the left - the owner of the estate Gregory S. Tarnowski; leaning against the back of his chair, standing Vasily Tarnowski - a prominent public figure on the peasant question, the table - his wife Lyudmila. Girl in white dress - Julia Vasey. ;) - CorinneSD (talk) 01:16, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Frisian Islands[edit]

Hello, Sca -- If you have time, would you look at this edit to Frisian Islands? [4] I can't judge the change in content, but if you decide that it should stay, I recommend removing "to be" after "considered" (instead of "it is considered to be", I think "it is considered" is sufficient). - CorinneSD (talk) 15:58, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I see you've been working on this article. I just wonder why you changed British spellings to American English spellings. - CorinneSD (talk) 22:26, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see any real logic in using British spellings in an article that's about a non-British subject, do you? Sca (talk) 23:04, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Corinne, among changes, I inserted part of before what is now the North Sea where it refers to dry land (see North Sea), and rephrased silting up of the islands, since "silting up" usually refers to bodies of water filling with silt, not bodies of land. I took the liberty of simplifying the Pliny quote via ellipses, added U.S. measurements in parens, and made various minor revisions. American spelling may be reverted if you wish. Sca (talk) 22:30, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
You didn't have to explain all your edits; I saw them, and they're all good. I just thought, according to WP:ENGVAR, we're not supposed to change the variety of English that is predominant in an article. I didn't check to see what was the predominant variety, though. (I like American English spelling; I just try to follow WP guidelines.) I'll leave it up to you - your decision. You didn't find that Google translation of the Russian description of that painting, above, amusing? CorinneSD (talk) 22:35, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Corinne: Forgot all about your "to be" question. In this case, I'd suggest leaving it that way, to make clear that we mean "are classified as" (which phrase could be substituted, I guess). Sca (talk) 22:53, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I just want to be sure we are talking about the same thing. This is what I see in the edit to which I provided a link (above):
  • Noorderhaaks, Rottumerplaat and Rottumeroog are generally considered to be islands, the others are considered to be sandbars and disappear from time to time into the waves.
(I don't know if you have changed it since then.)
If "to be" is removed from both phrases, it would look like this:
  • Noorderhaaks, Rottumerplaat and Rottumeroog are generally considered islands, the others are considered sandbars and disappear from time to time into the waves.
To me, "are..considered islands" means "are considered to be islands". I don't ever use "are considered as". I think it's ungrammatical, so I wouldn't even think that there could be confusion. CorinneSD (talk) 23:59, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I'm with you on that. Sca (talk) 01:54, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Ohh!! Sorry, was looking at wrong Russian painting. Yes, that's quite a caption all right! Sca (talk) 23:02, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Moosing around[edit]

Hafs, I do know one thing: That elk (Elch) of yours is a moose, and not a chocolate one either. Sca (talk) 23:20, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Very wise of you to discover it. I can't fool you, can I? Hafspajen (talk) 10:21, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Typical ex-Minnesotan
No, you can only make a fool of me.
Typical Minnesota moose
We (ex-) Minnesotans know our moose. I almost hit one once on Highway 61, by Lake Superior. Sca (talk) 13:47, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Endogurov: Beginning of Spring
Don't do that, it's not healthy for anyone. Not for the animal, or the driver. Those are not cats or rats you can simply drive over. Usually the driver is badly hurt too. Hafspajen (talk) 14:45, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
It was night. I swerved and missed him. At the time I was 17 or 18.
Another time back in those years I was portaging a canoe in north Ontario and suddenly confronted a bull moose on the trail. He clomped away. I was relieved. Sca (talk) 15:04, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, moose are cool and laydback animals. There is hardly any stories about moose being unpleasant towards people. I remember some guy was chased around a tree by a moose for some reason - but nothing really seriously happened actually. Hafspajen (talk) 18:39, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well, they can weigh up to 1500 pounds (680 kg.), and have been known to charge. From the Moose article:

Prussian / Russian moose
Moose are not usually aggressive towards humans, but can be provoked or frightened to behave with aggression. In terms of raw numbers, they attack more people than bears and wolves combined, but usually with only minor consequences. In the Americas, moose injure more people than any other wild mammal.... When harassed or startled by people or in the presence of a dog, moose may charge.

It's all those years of socialism that make Swedish moose so docile. Sca (talk) 21:57, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ours don't attack often, and usually with only minor consequences - as it was stated - but we hunt them too regularely - ..Hafspajen (talk) 02:13, 1 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
How do you get a 500 kg. moose out of the forest? In pieces? No thanks. Sca (talk) 13:25, 1 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, dunno. Never hunt. I am not a vegetarian - but if it was me who has to do the hunting, I probably would become one. Or chose to eat cheese and eggs... Hafspajen (talk) 20:44, 1 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]