User talk:Seeplain

External links have been added and the piece has been edited in a more dispassionate style, with narrative elements removed. I have sought advice from an editor but not heard back. I also tried to communicate with Spender (?) who added the new warning notices, but there has been no reply. In the hope that the various demands have been met, I would like some of those warning notices removed, but I don't know who to ask. Would it be OK to remove some myself ..? Seeplain (talk) 21:00, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Draft entry

Martin Cassini (born 2 October 1947 in Shepperton, England) is a TV programme-maker and traffic writer, who advocates reform of the traffic control system. He has contributed to Economic Affairs, The Times, The Daily Telegraph, BBC Newsnight, Culture Shock (the BBC World Service series about new ideas), and writes regularly for Traffic Technology International.

One day in 2000, at a junction in Cambridge, where five-minute delays involving three traffic light changes were the norm, he breezed through without incident or delay, then saw why: the lights were out of action. Next time he took that route, when the lights were “working” again, the usual delays were back. Previously he had remarked that lights were often badly phased, but here was evidence that traffic lights were unnecessary per se. Subsequent observations confirmed the idea that people got on better when left to their own competent devices. Later, he discovered shared space, and found he was not alone in seeing that good design and freedom to filter could provide solutions to congestion and road safety.

Cassini pinpoints main road priority (with acknowledgements to Kenneth Todd), as the fatal flaw at the heart of the system. Removing priority, he says, would remove the source of conflict as well as the "need" for lights and the need for speed. It would give all road-users equal rights and responsibilities and enable them to do what is natural and intrinsically safe: approach junctions carefully, watch the road, and filter, more or less in turn, as is normal in all other walks of life. He does not claim “filter in turn” is a panacea, and concedes that in some circumstances external controls might be useful, e.g. at major junctions at peak times, but he thinks coercion should be used only as a last resort.

"The current system places the onus on children to beware motorists, when it should be the other way round," he says. "Many accidents are events arising from conflicts contrived by the rules and design of the road." Thus he advocates a live-and-let-live approach based on co-operation and context. His ideas overlap with shared space, which is demonstrating in Bohmte in Germany and Drachten in Holland that peaceful coexistence can flow from freedom to use our own judgement on sympathetically-designed roads which stimulate rather than enforce appropriate conduct. His ideas also echo the theory of spontaneous order, which states that the more complex the ballet of human movement (e.g. a skateboard park), the less useful are attempts to control it.

With freedom to filter, road capacity is optimised: instead of consecutive queueing, the result is simultaneous progress –"infinitely more efficient and civilised". He condemns the stop-start drive cycle produced by traffic lights as the most environmentally damaging form of traffic management, pointing out that the electricity alone required to power the UK's galaxy of 24-hour traffic lights produces 57,000 tonnes of CO2 a year.

Following his 2008 BBC Newsnight report, which featured Susan Greenfield, Hans Monderman and Ben Hamilton-Baillie, he was encouraged to start a campaign. Called FiT Roads, it aims to make Roads FiT for People by freeing them to use commonsense and common courtesy on roads free of counterproductive traffic controls. Current projects include an extended trial to compare junction efficiency, journey time, safety, air and noise pollution with and without standard traffic controls.

Cassini is a graduate from Wadham College, Oxford (Modern Languages and Literature, 1971), and a member of the International Advisory Council of the Kyoto World Cities New Mobility Program. In 1992, a video he made for the European Parliament - which featured Lysette Anthony, Norman Pace, Henry Porter and Mark Steel - won two international awards.

References (some might overlap or refer to the same piece of work): http://econpapers.repec.org/article/blaecaffa/v_3A26_3Ay_3A2006_3Ai_3A4_3Ap_3A75-78.htm http://www.iea.org.uk/record.jsp?type=release&ID=118 http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=951309 http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/118587863/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article1295400.ece http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/main.jhtml?xml=/motoring/2006/10/14/mflights14.xml http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/7187165.stm http://www.itssa.org/index.php?pid=1436&ct=1&cid=1595&PHPSESSID=0596cce147356348e7e07b063b74f128 http://www.traffictechnologytoday.com/files/Martin%20Cassini%20edited.mp3.Mp3 http://www.ecoplan.org/briefs/general/panel.htm http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php?/site/article/2974/ http://www.livingstreets.org.uk/news_and_info/living_streets_library.php?lcid=39 http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/2007/oct/07/letters.theobserver1

Seeplain (talk) 14:49, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome![edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia, Seeplain! I am Anonymous101 and have been editing Wikipedia for quite some time. I just wanted to say hi and welcome you to Wikipedia! If you have any questions, feel free to leave me a message on my talk page or by typing {{helpme}} at the bottom of this page. I love to help new users, so don't be afraid to leave a message! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Reply[edit]

Hi, if you show me the draft article (maybe create it here), I will happily help you make the relevant changes. By the way I've also given you a welcome message (above) which has some advice on this sort of thing Anonymous101 (talk) 07:54, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Created an article[edit]

Hi,

I edited you suggested text a little and uploaded it as the article Martin Cassini.

See my comments on the discussion page there!

Good luck! --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 11:26, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your signature[edit]

Hi,

You are doing the right thing by signing your messages on talk pages with ~~~~, but you probably have wrong definitions in your preferences.

Please do this:

Click "my preferences" at the top of the page
Clear the "Signature" field
Uncheck "Raw signature".

If you do this, your signature will show "Seeplain" as your nickname and it will nicely link to your user page and talk page. If you want to show a different name, write it in the signature field, but leave "Raw signature" unchecked. "Raw signature" is useful only for defining especially fancy signatures. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 08:09, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Amir, thanks for your note on my talk page. I followed your instructions and found that the Signature field is already empty and the Raw sig field is already unchecked ..? Seeplain (talk) 09:41, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Now everything indeed seems fine. Maybe there was a glitch in one of your messages.

N.B.: The custom in Wikipedia is that you reply to a message on the same talk page where the conversation started. It makes it easier to follow the conversation. Notice how i add a colon (:) in the beginning of every paragraph to indent them. Two colons indent further etc. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 10:46, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I had noticed the colon indents, from the other talk page. Regarding the custom you mention, since you started this conversation here, presumably this particular topic belongs here?Seeplain (talk) 11:19, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, this topic belongs here.

I replied to you about the alerts on my talk page. Another tip: To start a new conversation on a talk page, click the "+" sign at the top of the page. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 14:30, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Martin Cassini[edit]

An article that you have been involved in editing, Martin Cassini, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Martin Cassini. Thank you. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? ¢Spender1983 (talk) 03:32, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - The rationale for the entry is that in the Wiki entry on Shared Space, Cassini is listed as one of five proponents. The other four have separate entries, so it seemed sensible for there to be a separate entry for Cassini too, especially in view of his publications. This is an additional Guardian piece http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/sep/21/congestioncharging.london Seeplain (talk) 19:30, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: The material involves a robust critique of standard traffic engineering practice, and presents what has been called a "counterintuitive" approach, so a review by a traffic engineer is arguably irrelevant.Seeplain (talk) 19:30, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Florrie Palmer[edit]

Draft article.

Florrie Palmer (b. 14 November 1947) is the first British female songwriter to get a No.1 in the U.S. The song was Morning Train, recorded in 1980 by Sheena Easton. The original title was 9-5, but it was changed for the American market to avoid conflict with 9-5 by Dolly Parton. Seeplain (talk) 16:13, 26 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Florrie Palmer Thanks for your initial feedback. A magazine review is subjective opinion, whereas Palmer's listing as writer in places such as Discog are fact, and therefore (I would have thought) establish notability objectively? If you put Morning Train into Google, results bring up Sheena Easton, but she was only the singer - when you go in, you see that Palmer is indeed properly credited, e.g. http://www.elyrics.net/read/s/sheena-easton-lyrics/morning-train-lyrics.html It goes back 30 years so it's not easy to find comprehensive supporting material. The following is from the NME (New Musical Express) archive: http://www.nme.com/nme-video/youtube/id/DEriz4FjkSY/search/england-supporters-club Annoyingly, it only says "lyrics by Florrie Palmer" when I know she wrote the whole song, lock, stock and unforgettable music. Can you help at all, or should I continue digging to see what else I can unearth? Regards Seeplain

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