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Random Stuff[edit]

So, what's your political party?Reply on my talk page: 43?9enter (talk) 01:27, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Then what do you think of capitalism? 43?9enter (talk) 01:35, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding socialism, I think of socialism as a system where goods are priced by their use value or labor value. Someone can then work for an equal amount of 'labor coins' which corresponds to how much you worked. Those labor coins can be exchanged for a manufactured good. Meanwhile, wealth is not equally distributed, it is just that all jobs pay within a closer margin. Therefore a nuclear physicist will make a similar amount to a sewer cleaner. And also, do you ever wonder why the most disgusting jobs pay the least? If you think of it as a bribe amongst youngsters, then I believe one would have to pay more money for someone to jump in a septic tank and clean it than to do someone's homework.

And I think capitalism is the source of racism. If someone wants capitalism to succeed and racism to crumble, then I suggest breeding every single race together.

I shall only say that the Soviet Union post-Stalin era was a deformed workers state. Pure communism is truly perfect, but in the end someone gets too greedy or something stupid and messes it all up.

Those are my thoughts. 43?9enter (talk) 02:02, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Due to inflation and my paltry education regarding economics in capitalism (Das Kapital scared me away), I cannot give you an estimate regarding similar pay. But I can tell you that items are measured by either their use value or labor value (I haven't decided which one seems better), or that one must perform the same amount of labor used to create, for instance, a computer, if they wish to gain the money to purchase one. The labor can be measured in what I earlier called 'labor coins'. The labor coins apply to both of my ideas. My guess on why Hitler called himself socialist is that because it appealed to the post-WWI Germany better than capitalism, with their overwhelming inflation. I think the Germans thought that the Nazis seemed like a fresh alternative which was more promising than the Weimar Republic. Meanwhile, under my knowledge, I think capitalist socialism is contradictory in itself. I look forward to talking with you again. If you like, I can Wiki-adopt you and show you the ropes (assuming you want to be a long-term contributor). 43?9enter (talk) 02:43, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I think almost everything can be accomplished democratically. Just look at Hitler. 43?9enter (talk) 02:45, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You have summarized my thoughts very well. However, what you said about coins for thing A and coins for thing B being different, I was thinking of having a single currency. 10 labor coins could, for example, be equal to a coffee cup and a pair of scissors (just an example, may not be true.) And about trading with other countries, I never actually thought about that. I never even considered thinking of it until you mentioned it to me. In that I have no idea what to do. Also, the people who fail school can either be deported to another nation or be used for the least popular jobs, the latter being preferred. Also, which jobs do you think are worthless? I can't think of any except for telemarketers. Adding to my theoretical utopia, all companies are controlled by the state, and citizens can suggest to the government for the government to open a new business. Advertising is nonexistent, and everyone has to work, no exploitation allowed. I also think that this can be established democratically. Eugene Debs ran for the Socialist Party of the United States and got a rather high margin of the votes. Unfortunately, Taft did better. Conclusive proof that anything can be done democratically has been proved by Hitler and his Enabling Act. I also do not speak French. Thank you for your information, I do enjoy talking with you and would be delighted to hear from you again. 43?9enter (talk) 05:08, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Utopia[edit]

I believe that in my system it is impossible to get rich. Even if they can, if the rich refuse to work, their wealth will be distributed to those who struggle most. And I also believe the property should be borrowed, instead of truly private property. For instance, instead of Persons A and B each having their own car, they could both share one, and use it when they need it. So then a person could drive to work and leave the car there. When he needed to come home, a different car would be left at the workplace and the first car would have been taken by someone else. If you want to leave a laptop you can pay some extra labor coins to keep the first car for some time. The property isn't exactly private. It is more of a borrowing and lending system. This system saves natural resources. I don't think people should be allowed to criticize the government, because that causes unrest which ends in revolutions, so mild censorship of the press is ideal. And how are labor coins distributed if you're elderly or have children to support or have disabilities? And what about taxes? And how do you eradicate social statuses in school? That is a cause of suicide, and it cannot be ignored. "Cool" must be eradicated and replaced with a classless society of students. And to add your signature just add the ~~~~, which the Wikipedia servers replace with your name. ~~~~ becomes 43?9enter (talk) 23:28, 28 March 2011 (UTC). I look forward to more discussions with you. 43?9enter (talk) 23:28, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I like classical music. Because of school, I cannot write extensive responses as I usually do, so I will keep this short.
I agree with what you say about advertising. It ravages the environment, human minds, and the wallet. In a socialist system there will be no competition, so advertising becomes useless. I am not saying anything about dictating and controlling the actions of the people. They should have their own freedom with mild censorship which will not allow, for instance, people to form a group criticizing the government and endorsing a coup. And what do you think of an emergency law that can suspend civil liberties for a maximum of 2 years, in times of civil unrest? Of course, that would have to follow its own constitution of some sort. It might also need a "cooldown time" of a year or so. But what do you think of the idea? And could you tell me what your theoretical Utopia would be like? 43?9enter (talk) 23:23, 29 March 2011 (UTC) PS I also think my system counts as Communism because if you gain too many labor coins then they will be distributed to whoever has the least, so equality is forced. The equality forces itself through similar wages and is also forced by the government if you get too much money.[reply]

Are the luxury coins worth the same as labor coins? For example, can 10 labor coins be turned into 5 luxury coins and 3 days of a video game could be worth both 5 luxury coins and 10 labor coins? --43?9enter ^☭talk_☭contribs 02:32, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Giving the rich people's labor coins would be given to the poor who work hard, but can barely scrape a living. But I like your idea enormously. About the gold mines, if the labor coins are not made of gold, then gold will be useless. Then there would be no reason to take any gold. Well that's just a temporary answer, I'll think of a better one later. But regarding the food companies, the only way I can think of to knock them over is by force. I would prefer to do that peacefully, so can you tell me stuff about that? Thank you for these talks. --43?9enter ^☭talk_☭contribs 03:50, 30 March 2011 (UTC) PS Do you like my new signature? I think it reflects me well.[reply]

I think that is an excellent idea. An improvement I would make is to instead of having a poll for luxury items, they can simply place a request for a luxury item and spend the coins when they pick it up. It would be like a library, except all the items are very closely monitored, and there will be a maximum ownership time of 1 moth before having a 1 week cooldown before being able to rent that same item again. That will ensure that people keep working. About the food industry, I'll assume you read The Omnivore's Dilemma. It explains the stuff the food supergiants cover up, what they want us to think they're doing, and how the corn plant is taking over the world. I think the government can just confiscate the food supergiants money and take it over when capitalism evolves to socialism. What do you think about that? Or is revolution the only way? I honestly think this has a chance of truly working in practice. I hope we can talk again. --43?9enter ^☭talk_☭contribs 05:06, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What do we do with the elderly and physically disabled? How do they get labor coins? And what about prisons and criminals? --43?9enter ^☭msg_☭contribs 07:11, 3 April 2011 (UTC) PS you can help remove vandalism on Wikipedia with Stiki. Removing vandalism is a good way to help.[reply]

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How do we avoid shortage of food and materials like during the Russian Revolution?

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I think the only way is to force people to farm. I'm trying to make this good communism, but giving the people freedom to not farm might make them lazy, and they'll think "Oh, but someone else will farm. One person does not make a difference.", but when everyone thinks that, there will be no food production. So forcing people to farm a small garden and turn in some of their farmed goods to the government, where it can undergo processing and distribution, will be helpful. What do you think of that? Also, should we have a planned economy? --43?9enter ^☭msg_☭contribs 21:53, 3 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

But it's not exactly totalitarianism if they farm food for themselves. They can donate surplus to the government. --43?9enter ^☭msg_☭contribs 01:51, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

So, um, reply when you get back please. --43?9enter ^☭msg_☭contribs 18:06, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

And I just noticed this, in our system it is nearly impossible to get more labor coins than you worked for. Therefore the elderly will not be able to save up labor coins, so what do we do? --43?9enter ^☭msg_☭contribs 20:28, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(Twiddles thumbs) --43?9enter ^☭msg_☭contribs 02:18, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Name of Form of Government[edit]

So the part about taking care of the elderly would be like in The Giver by Lois Lowry then. And also, what do we call people who follow that idea of government? For example, a person who likes the ideas of democracy is a Democrat, and a person who likes the idea of fascism is a Fascist. How about we call our form of government "Benedemequicommucaptocracy"? If you take the definitions of the root words, it translates to "the form of government involving 'good people's equal and collective ownership'." True, that's not the best name, but someone who has knowledge of English root words can be able to figure it out in the end. --43?9enter ^☭msg_☭contribs 22:30, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Also, I think Stalin and those other guys destroyed the meaning of Communism and used it as a poor excuse for the dictatorships they created. They gave Communism the reputation it has today, which is why people regard it as totalitarianism. --43?9enter ^☭msg_☭contribs 22:32, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What should we do about someone who is born with a physical disability (like born without arms) that might not let the person perform labor? And also how should we structure the executive parts of the government? --43?9enter ^☭msg_☭contribs 22:52, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Our current system is made with people working and getting labor coins which are worth an equal amount as the labor performed. But the amount of labor coins varies depending on efficiency of labor. Those labor coins can be spent on basic necessities like food and drink. Every time you collect labor coins, you also get a small amount of luxury coins. So I propose that the luxury coins cannot be converted into labor coins, and vice versa, to ensure that if someone wants to eat, they have to work for labor coins, and pick up a small amount of luxury coins. The luxury coins can only be spent on stuff like 3 hours of renting a TV, or a computer. However you cannot keep things purchased with luxury coins. They can only be rented for a certain amount of time. So if you cannot convert luxury coins into labor coins, and cannot convert labor coins into luxury coins, then if he works purely for luxury, he will not eat. Please help me with this solution because I think it's unstable, though I don't know how. --43?9enter ^☭msg_☭contribs 03:36, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed you haven't replied today. Please read the above paragraph and tell me your thoughts. And also consider the following: Currently what I'm worried about is the education system. How do you think we should structure it? --43?9enter ^☭msg_☭contribs 04:22, 20 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding your slow responses, I'll assume you're doing real world stuff... --43?9enter ^☭msg_★contribs22:36, 27 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm still 43?9enter. Just want to let you know I changed my name. --Σ _☭^★ 04:41, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

How can you still not be here in June? --The Σ ^talk_contribs 07:46, 19 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]