User talk:TareTone

Welcome TareTone. Sugarpine 16:46, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

In the part with me scouting for a job, I think. Sugarpine 22:10, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Nigger article

Hi, I noticed you have removed some parts of the opening paragraph of this article. I was wondering what exactly your objection is. Certainly the varying levels of offensiveness dependent on race of the user is a relevent aspect of this term? Feel free to reply here or on my talk page. Thanks —Nate Scheffey 03:35, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanx for being willing to discuss it. That was very polite of you. Here's where I am coming from. The article originally said, it's use by white people is regarded as offensive. I found that kind of inaccurate. It's use by any race is considered bad, but probably white people a little more for coming up with the term and participating in the putting blacks through slavery. However, nigger is not what black people generally call each other in jesting. That is niggah and stuff. Those aren't even real words yet and are slang. The use of the word nigger is completely bad. That article is talking about a dictionary word, not a slang word. I think we can mention that the word has generated some slang uses of it, however, not in the opening where it should only define the main word of the page TareTone 03:40, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

I see what you are saying. Since the pronunciation of this word greatly effects its offensiveness, it important to address mainly the pronunciation of this specific article, i.e. the -er ending rather than Nigga. But since that difference is so important to the usage of the word, I think it deserves mention in the lead. Maybe something like "Its use by other races, particularly Caucasians, is regarded as extremely offensive, however the different pronunciation "nigga" can be used within the African American community in a neutral or positive way." Would that be better? —Nate Scheffey 03:58, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Well, I can see where you're saying how it has a lot to do with the word and how many, typically young black people who didn't live in those times, use it in jesting. But yes! I would say adding niggah to the heading is important now because it has a lot to do with the word. I understand why you feel as if it should be there. I would just say to avoid using just caucasians using the word nigger is considered offensive though. I'd say any race using it is very offensive, but particularly caucasians. TareTone 04:16, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Hogan Knows Best

Yes, the fourth wall is indeed a real phrase, as you can see if you click on the link. And thanks for fixing the wrong pronoun I used to refer to Hulk. (I must've thought he was in the middle of a MAJOR operation!) However, I notice that the vast majority of changes you made were not to fix errors, but to re-insert adjectives to describe the cast and their activities that are clearly opinions, and therefore not in keeping with the NPOV policy. You also had committed error or two yourself, as you when you referred to Hulk as "untrustful", rather than "distrustful". I'm sorry, but I removed the non-NPOV passages, though I left in some of the other newer details you inserted, like the episode with the chimpanzee, Brooke's new song, etc. Thanks again. Nightscream 05:41, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm flattered you thought I was that clever. :-) As for spoilers, I hear ya. I was FURIOUS when, before finishing Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, I was reading Professor Snape's article, and read the ending of that novel in it, even though there were no spoiler warnings. Since some of the info I added in the cast description is mentioned further down in the episode descriptions, I put a Spoiler Warning tag above it, so I think that should take care of that. As far as your adjectives, there is no way for them to be accurate or inaccurate as a question of fact, since describing the cast or their behavior as "well-intentioned", "outlandish", "naughty", or "whiny" are clearly opinions. I, for example did not see Linda's care of a chimpanzee or her conflict with her neighbor over the other animals as "outlandish", nor do I observe Brooke to be "whiny". Those are subjective things, and are not appropriate for inclusion, as per WP's NPOV policy. And sorry about not signing my post. I always sign them, but forgot to do so last time. Nightscream 05:46, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Owning a chimp? No, I didn't find that particular unusual, since there are many people who own animals other than cats and dogs (lizards, tarantulas, pigs, etc.). However, I didn't remember anything about pots and pans, as I was merely commenting on her conflict with her neighbors in general. I'm not really sure I have an opinion on the court decision, since I'm not sure for the reasons behind that law, or whether it would really be a problem if she controlled the noise or hygiene. IIRC, the neighbor was upset about the noise, right? If so, then I would agree with him on that one point. As far as Brooke, well, that's how people react to their parents, especially teenagers. The fact that Hulk's hooking her up with a singing career doesn't mitigate the fact that teenagers are sometimes embarrased by some of the things their parents say and do. Whaddaya gonna do? :-) Nightscream 04:08, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

User:Sugarpine

I haven't done anything yet. I've tried unblocking Sugarpine but it says he isn't blocked, so I don't understand that. Check out block list.[1] Tyrenius 04:32, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Warning

If you carry on with this kind of behaviour, you're going to get blocked again. Have a look at WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA. Tyrenius 06:32, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

You make no sense at all TareTone 18:39, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

What you wrote to LtPowers is not very pleasant. Just be a bit nicer to people. We're here to edit an encyclopedia and do it in an amicable way, though I realise that often isn't achieved. Tyrenius 22:37, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

OK, let's be friends and let bygones be bygones. I'm very glad that you want to be nice to people and I will support you in that. I hope you establish a good place in the community with your editing. I know there was a lot of concern for you and hopes that you would be able to go ahead in a positive way. Tyrenius 01:20, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

And I'm now taking you off my watch list, so I will not know every time you're making an edit on this page! Just so you know. Tyrenius 01:30, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Re: Taretone

When have I ever followed you around? I welcomed you to Wikipedia, warned you not to engage in personal attacks, and commented in what I thought was a neutral way when you were blocked for your behavior. Like it or not, Wikipedia is a community, and each of us as editors has a vested interest in that community; we each have a responsibility to provide a check on the actions of all other editors, to make sure the community runs smoothly. I understand that you were upset with me for appearing to support Tyrenius (and thus take sides against you), but I assure you it's nothing personal, and it's absolutely no excuse for your horrible behavior. I accept your apology, but you will have to demonstrate true contrition with your actions, not just with words. Powers ^T 12:47, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

My knowledge of your interactions comes not from delving through your edit history but from simply having your talk page (and Tyrenius') on my watchlist. This is extremely common. Discussions on talk pages are not private; any user of Wikipedia can read them and comment on them as they see fit. If you wish to have private discussions, conduct them through e-mail. I again assure you this is nothing personal; it's standard operating procedure for Wikipedia. Powers ^T 23:00, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

As I said, it is perfectly normal for editors to have other editors' talk pages on their watchlists. It's so we can watch for replies to our messages. It's nothing personal, and it's not necessarily an indication of friendship. Users' pages end up on my watchlist automatically whenever I leave a message, and there's no reason for me to remove them right away every time. Again, this isn't a social networking site like MySpace, it's a collaborative encyclopedia. It's important to know what other users are working on. Powers ^T 02:14, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Your talk page (well, User talk:Tonetare, that is) is on my watchlist because I posted a message on it welcoming you to Wikipedia. Here it is. I chose to welcome you to Wikipedia, and warn you for incivility, because you posted a message to me first; I didn't initiate contact. Powers ^T 12:13, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

The correct preposition to use in that sentence is neither "with" nor "of", but "by", as in "Penetration by the penis...". Your edit makes it sound like the penis is being penetrated (by what? Yikes!). Powers ^T 11:03, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

That's not how I use those prepositions. Penetration is performed "by" the object doing the penetrating, in my usage. Penetration "of" can be used in the way you describe, but it's ambiguous (because it's not clear whether the penis is the recipient of penetration or if the penis currently possesses some amount of penetration). "By" is unambiguous in this case. Powers ^T 17:57, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Well all I can do is provide you with examples. "Penetration of Intact Skin by Quantum Dots" -- the skin is being penetrated by the quantum dots. "Penetration of the Human Skin by the Cercaria" -- the skin is being penetrated by the Cercaria. "Initial Penetration of the St. Lawrence Valley 1534 to 1583" -- the valley is being penetrated by explorers. "Penetration of Hard Substrates by a Fungus Employing Enormous Turgor Pressures" -- the substrates are being penetrated by the fungus. Do you see? Powers ^T 11:13, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

As I said, it's not that your usage was wrong, per se, just ambiguous. Glad I was able to help. Powers ^T 02:50, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Everybody Hates Chris / Tonya

Hi, you posted on my talk page about the Tonya/Tanya spelling issue. I have to admit it took me a minute to remember the context of what you were saying (i.e., Talk:Everybody Hates Chris), so I thought I'd drop a note asking you to kindly provide more context when you post on user's talk pages. Thank you. :) (And by the way, IMDB stands for Internet Movie Database.) - furrykef (Talk at me) 20:13, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Drive

Yes, I can drive. Thank you for that error. I got to go and watch his edits. Sugarpine^t 13:53, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Re:

Oh hey ToneTare. So I see you avoided your block. I know that you and Forest had a scheme and drove me out of Wikipedia just because you didnt like me. But hey, I say I'm not going to let people drive me out just because they dont like how I help/edit Wikipedia. Thanks. --Mikedk9109 19:41, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Reply

I guess this is nothing private; so we can talk about this. Yes, I'm into SpongeBob because of my children. They told me all about it, and I started watching programs with them and know a lot about it. I also am very interested in Harry Potter and other things. Sugarpine^t 00:11, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

User:Charlesknight

Back off from Charlesknight. His edit summaries are reasonable explanations. Get on with editing. Your behaviour is not helpful to wiki and is going to get you into trouble again at this rate. His page is on my watchlist, in case you want to know. Tyrenius 07:25, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

This is a final warning. That was another attack on me this time. Ask Sugarpine. Tyrenius 17:19, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Re: Taretone

Please don't edit Charlesknight's page. We know what happend last time. BTW, your a father? I didn't know...Only 20....Aren't you in college? Sugarpine^t 14:05, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Re:

I quit editing that page for reasons you know. --Mikedk9109 19:45, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

No, I quit edit that page because its the page that started this whole thing between us. I will not edit it anymore. Any by the way, do not edit my user page. Next time you blatently delete something I will report you. Thanks, --Mikedk9109 20:15, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Do you think it's sensible to say it's sweet that an editor is no longer editing an article because of you? Do you think that indicates good faith on your part? --Charlesknight 20:36, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

You're doing TareTone an injustice here. At the beginning of the thread he apologised to Miked9109 for past behaviour and Sweet! in that context does not have to be read as belligerent. Tyrenius 05:15, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Re: TareTone

I'm going to try you on myspace tommorow. O.K? Sugarpine^t 02:47, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

It's only 8:54, I log off around 9:30 ussally. Sometimes I stay on as late as 10:00 but never after that. I live in mountain time zone. Sugarpine^t 02:54, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Good night! I'll be on around 13:00 tommorow; but I won't be able to get to my computer until 22:00. All times UTC. Sugarpine^t 03:00, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

I've got about 15-20 minutes to go. I don't go to sleep until 11:30 or midnight, but I don't spend my time on Wikipedia ever after 10:00pm. I do other stuff. I'll log off at 9:20pm or so.Sugarpine^t 03:03, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I'll find sometime on myspace tommorow. Is your own personal website ready? BTW, I might have a hard time finding and editing your user thing on myspace, so it might be a while. Sugarpine^t 03:11, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Well I'll see what I can do about myspace. Be sure to set up a chatroom on your own website so we can talk. Sugarpine^t 03:15, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Getting a new username

Can I suggest that if you do so, you don't make one of your first actions to berate me on my userpage - thus alerting me to the fact that have changed names? --Charlesknight 08:10, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

thanks

Thank for your thoughts on the situation. I'm getting very tired of people who think they control pages on here, lately many pages i've edited people are reverting them for no reason or giving a very lame reason for it. Wikipedia is no longer a nice place to edit.Lil crazy thing 12:08, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Problematic edits

Hello. You are editing in a disruptive manner, and I notice that your interactions with other user is often passive-aggressive and outright hostile. ^[2] Please familiarize yourself with Wikipedia policy. Furter breaches may result in sanctions. Thanks. El_C 12:58, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Your threatening response on my talk page was disruptive and incivil. As an admin, it is my responsibility to look into pressing issues when these are raised. <Discussion has been archived at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive136#User:TareTone>. You have been blocked for 24 hours one month. Please ensure that you adhere to Wikipedia policy in the future. El_C 20:20, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

I am just unplugging the modem tonight and getting a new IP. I do it everytime I meet a little nasty stinky piece of shit like you, just like Tyrenius. Hahhahahaahaha! By the way, those pictures on your page suck balls. Are you like a little pussy. EW Dude. Anyway, I was getting tired of this user name anyway. I'll be back with a new IP today TareTone 20:23, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

NPA please, Taretone. Sugarpine^t 20:27, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Sugarpine, but it's fun and I can do it anyway as I can just get a new IP address. ;) Hey, thanx for saying what you did on the Administrative notice board, but I'm done playing by the rules. I'll just get a new IP if I want to return here. Screw all that notice board shit. TareTone 20:31, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

If, I did I would get blocked so I'm not going to. Well, sorry I didn't have time for myspace, but hopefully I'll be able to do it this weekend. If Tryenius blocked you for a reason, there was no reason he should put anything about you using a different IP in the future. That's no reason for you to be blocked. I agree- I am getting a little annoyed with Tryenius. Tell me when your own website is finished; again be sure to create a chat room, and I'll contact you on myspace as fast as I can. What's your new IP? Sugarpine^t 20:34, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

User:Charlesknight

Your conduct with regard to Charlesknight is amounting to deliberate provocation and harassment. Cool it, back off, get on with something else and leave him alone or you'll get blocked again. Tyrenius 14:37, 16 September 2006 (UTC)