User talk:Wharyadi

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Hello, Wharyadi, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, such as Telekomunikasi Indonesia International (TL) S.A., may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines, and may not be retained.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Telekomunikasi Indonesia International (TL) S.A.[edit]

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A tag has been placed on Telekomunikasi Indonesia International (TL) S.A., requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, you can place a request here. Jackmcbarn (talk) 05:01, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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how make this article conform to Wikipedia's guidelines? Thanks

Hi, in answer to your help request, the article you refer to has been nominated for speedy deletion for violating "section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic." This is clearly indicated in the paragraph by @Jackmcbarn: above.

To make this article conform to Wikipedia guidelines, you will have to remove the unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and you will need to fundamentally rewrite the article in order for it to become encyclopedic. To give you an example, the phrase "value added" is unencyclopedic marketing-speak, as is "greatest telecommunication", which is unambiguously promotional. Since Wikipedia requires competence of its editors, if you're not aware that such phrasing is inherently promotional, you may find yourself having difficulty editing here. The article also contains grammatical errors and problems with English syntax, and doesn't describe the subject in a proper encyclopedic tone. You should also familiarize yourself with Wikipedia's expectations that articles be written from a neutral point of view. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:27, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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I already edited the article? Can you check if the article is still not comply to Wikipedia's guidelines? Thanks

January 2014[edit]

Hello Wharyadi, and welcome to Wikipedia. Your addition to Telkomcel has had to be removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material without permission from the copyright holder. While we appreciate your contributing to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from your sources to avoid copyright or plagiarism issues here.

You can only copy/translate a small amount of a source, and you must mark what you take as a direct quotation with double quotation marks (") and a cited source. You can read about this at Wikipedia:Non-free content in the sections on "text". See also Help:Referencing for beginners, for how to cite sources here.
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It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices, as policy requires that people who persistently do not must be blocked from editing. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. bonadea contributions talk 09:38, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm Corporate Communication Manager of TELKOMCEL and I believe there is no copyright issue on this matter. We are very happy to add logo of TELKOMCEL in this useful article. Thanks. RWahyu Haryadi

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. There are a few very important things that you have to be aware of:

Text from other websites cannot be copied straight to Wikipedia articles. There are two reasons for this.

- First, the text is almost always copyrighted, and copyrighted text cannot be added to Wikipedia. It is possible to donate copyrighted text to Wikipedia, using the process described above, but it is usually impractical to do so. Repeatedly adding copyrighted text to Wikipedia articles may unfortunately lead to a shorter or longer block from editing. (In addition, it is not enough to say that you own the copyright - you have to show it, as outlined above.) The rules about copyright are among the strictest rules in Wikipedia, and it cannot be circumvented, I'm afraid.

- Second, text on other websites is usually not suitable for an encyclopedia article, because it is often promotional or otherwise written in an inappropriate tone.

Since you are a representative of the company, you should avoid editing the article about the company at all. Before you make any more edits, please read this information about editing when you have a conflict of interest.

Thank you! --bonadea contributions talk 10:15, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Since the content you copied to Wikipedia is included on a page which says "© 2013. All rights reserved", it seems very improbable that you are authorised to license it for free reuse by anyone anywhere in the world, either unmodified or modified in any way at all, for commercial or non-commercial use, subject to acknowledgment of your edit to Wikipedia as a source. That is what you are doing when you post any content to any Wikipedia page, and unless you are authorised to do so, you are infringing copyright. However, even in the unlikely event that your company is willing to release the text under such free licensing terms, it would still be unacceptable, as it is distinctly promotional in tone (as is usual on content from a company's web site). Wikipedia is not a medium for promotion. JamesBWatson (talk) 11:55, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Telekomunikasi Indonesia International (TL) S.A.[edit]

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A tag has been placed on Telekomunikasi Indonesia International (TL) S.A. requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about an organization or company, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, you can place a request here. ES &L 10:56, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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why should be deleted? what is different this page with others like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indosat, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timor_Telecom etc

There are effectively three questions here:

Why is the article nominated for deletion?
How does it differ from Indosat?
How does it differ from Timor Telecom?

The answer to question 1 is that the article gives no indication that the company is significant enough to justify inclusion. Wikipedia does not ionclude articles on nay business, but requires evidence that a business is notable. You may find it helpful to read Wikipedia:FAQ/Business, which summarises vaious points relating to articles about companies, and also gives links to relevant guidelines and policies, which you can read if yo want further information.

Questions 2 & 3 are actually irrelevant to any consideration of whether Telekomunikasi Indonesia International (TL) S.A. should be deleted, as each article is considered on its own merits. Unfortunately, many articles are created which shouldn't be, and unless and until someone notices an unsuitable article and nominates it for deletion, it stays, so the existence of an article is no guarantee that it satisfies Wikipedia's inclusion standards. However, I will give you answers to the questions anyway. The answer to question 2 is that the article Indosat gives ample indications of significance, which Telekomunikasi Indonesia International (TL) S.A. doean't. The answer to question 3 is "It doesn't, and Timor Telecom has now been deleted. Thank you for calling attention to this unsuitable article, so that it could be dealt with." JamesBWatson (talk) 11:42, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Another question is whether this company/subsidiary is the same one as the subject of the article Telin? --bonadea contributions talk 12:02, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It's different entity. Telekomunikasi Indonesia International (TL) S.A is mobile operator operated in Timor Leste (well known as Telkomcel) and it's subsidiary of PT. Telekomunikasi Indonesia International (TELIN). Wharyadi (talk) 12:13, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned non-free image File:Telkomcel Logo.png[edit]

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Thanks for uploading File:Telkomcel Logo.png. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Stefan2 (talk) 17:59, 9 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]