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A cheeseburger for you!

A staple of diners and fast-food restaurants, cheeseburgers were first popularized in the United States during the 1920s and 30s. Anyway, this is Wiener Shnitzel with something familiar on the plate...

Hafspajen (talk) 15:56, 17 October 2014 (UTC)


Thanks! Hope it's still edible; I"m hungry... Zeng8r (talk) 21:30, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Hafspajen (talk) 01:28, 3 November 2014 (UTC)



Thanks, same to you! --Zeng8r (talk) 15:55, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Croquetas con patatas fritas

Croquetas con patatas fritas

Something nice for the Holiday. Hafspajen (talk) 01:50, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

  • The croquetas look delicious, but it's an odd combination. Are there any veggies on that table, Hafspajen? Drmies (talk) 22:50, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
Don't know Mies. This is Zeng8r, my friend from the Warrington -time. One that didn't went crazy... he is still here, faithul and a bit retired. English teacher like you. Hafspajen (talk) 23:26, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Christmas message

Happy New Year Zeng8r!

Thanks, Hafs, same to you!!! --Zeng8r (talk) 14:53, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

How's life doing with you nowadays? Hafspajen (talk) 14:56, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
Ah, enjoying the holidays off, hope yours are pleasant as well, thanks for asking. And, jeez, your talk page must be the busiest on Wikipedia. My watch list always says something "17.3 million changes since your last visit", lol. Thanks for taking time out to say hello. :-) --Zeng8r (talk) 18:31, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
Must be weird. But, no, I am not the busiest, for example Drmies talk is much more busy. What are you doing, teaching still? Hafspajen (talk) 19:12, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Your input is requested . . . .

Hey, Zen. Happy New Year. I'd like to get your opinion on this revised infobox template for college football players: [1]. After determining what data points to include, we'll recruit a template editor to handle the coding for us. Once we determine what fields we're adding and what we're deleting, then we'll work on the modified graphics. Thanks. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 02:31, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, DL, I totally missed this. Hope things turned out ok. Zeng8r (talk) 00:58, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Hafs

Colosseum in Moonlight
  • Noticed you were around .... Mr Zengör.... Hafspajen (talk) 23:04, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Ha, you got me. Needed some me time so I've been doing the most relaxing thing I can think of - working on some quiet little local history articles. Hope you're happy and healthy, etc... Zeng8r (talk) 23:13, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

I am Je suis Hafspajen now. Read this... groan Hafspajen (talk) 23:18, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
I stand beside you in solidarity, haha. [2] --Zeng8r (talk) 00:58, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
Gosh, I will have two blocked users on my consistence soon-. Hafspajen (talk) 01:31, 30 March 2015 (UTC)


Thank you, old friend. Hafspajen (talk) 01:33, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
I do - now. Look at my userpage. Hafspajen (talk) 07:13, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
Voilà! Category:Wikipedians whose talkpages are decorated by Hafspajen. . --Hafspajen (talk) 14:07, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

I am honored! I also seem to have been blocked and quickly unblocked on the Swedish Wiki, and my user page was deleted within 24 hours. Those people over there are a little too serious about themselves, imo. Zeng8r (talk) 10:40, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

They are, they are, very serious. However they seems to forgot that this was the original Wiki.... They copied and changed it to something more strict, less free, more bureaucratic and less sensible. Rules that made it less spontaneous and less fun. Harmless fuh, I have to add, because nobody actually gets hurt if you put Wikilove, pictures or a redlink on your page only pedantic, police minded guys who like to patronize others and think the others private space is their business. I a not asking anyone's advice what clothes to put on, how to decorate my apartment or what to put on my talk page. I was also editing the Wikipedia for just as long as they did, since 2008. Dmies started in 2007, you 2007 ... Some of them who were involved at the criticizing against me, started much later, Le Lapin Vert started 2012; Adville in 2010, - Obelix who reverted me, is also a longtimer, but it looks like it was under some kind of restrictions, he was not supposed to do more that two reverts per day or be engaged in discussions, pity that he did them both in this case.

Howerver, if you don't have a user page on another language Wikipedia, the talkpage just copies yours from Meta. Does that by default. It's been like that for about a month now, this is mine now, at Sw-Wiki. It is copied from Meta Wiki- my Meta account. They can't delete it there, cos they only have local admin powers on Swedish Wiki. And I guess, it is best to avoid them, all together, since nobody apologize, nobody said sorry we offended you. Some said that it was overly hard treatment, but most agree that I was doing the wrong things even if it wasn't very wrong. I say, that they are overly strict and restrictive - and I guess it s here we disagree. I say, nobody got hurt by my pictures, my redlink or anything I put on my TALK. It is MY TALK, not theirs, and I believe one should do whatever you want with your own talk, as everybody does overhear. For a good reason, it doesn't hurt anyone and it is more fun, it is creative and one should have the right of self-determination - (självbestämmande - a concept the Swedes are rather aware of) - right to your own space, own ideas, own opinions - and yes own talk. And, also, what turned me of most, it was this adversity and animosity that I don't stand, people have not the slightest inhibition of telling the most uncivilized accusations openly to anyone, blunt, unfriendly, impatiently, it looks like this is normal way of interacting over there, so ... what happened to Wikipedia pillar four= WP:Polite? Hafspajen (talk) 21:30, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

  • Stated simply, they make such a fuss of small bureaucratic mistakes, while they ignore one that is much bigger - the way they interact. Editors should always treat each other with consideration and respect, maintaining a pleasant editing environment by behaving politely, calmly and reasonably. Wikipedia's civility expectations apply to all editors during all interactions on Wikipedia, and YES on all Wikipedias, this is one of the basic rules - and it is here Sw-Wiki is not following the rules. They throw accusations on everybody and on each other with no restrictions whatsoever. It is rather a sad situation.. Hafspajen (talk) 21:36, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

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Color graphics for Infobox college football player

3-pixel accent with white text
Florida Gators

Zen, here's a sneak peek at how the revamped infobox is going: Template:Infobox college football player/testcases#Joe Cool (typical example). What do you think of the colors, graphics, and layout and design? In particular, how do you like the "college varsity stripe graphics?" Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 17:04, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

The stripe looks really good, imo, and I like the tweaks in the info placement for all the different versions. Just a couple things - I know it's a common football factoid, but I've never liked including a player's weight in an infobox. Technically, every time a lineman hits an all-you-can-eat buffet, you'd have to up the guy's number by a few pounds. It looks like some proposed versions leave out weight. If that's an option, I'm in favor.
Also, what happens when a player goes on to NFL? In the past, I've seen player articles with multiple infoboxes, making the article redundant and cluttered. I just found the earlier revised college / NFL version using Jadeveon Clowney; looks like you've worked on that problem as well. It's definitely an improvement. Thanks for getting me back in the loop - is there on ongoing discussion somewhere? --Zeng8r (talk) 19:34, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
"Ongoing discussion somewhere?" No, there's an ongoing squabble over compliance with WP:ACCESS, and the early discussion among WP:CFB and WP:NFL members has been on hold while we dealt with template technical compliance issues. I expect we will open a mini-RfC on the template talk page to make final decisions on the old parameters and links to be removed, and new ones to be added, sometime in the next couple of weeks -- I'll ping you then. If you want to get caught up on WP:CFB opinions on point, check out User talk:Dirtlawyer1/sandbox.
In answer to your question, all NFL player will convert to Infbox NFL player once they play in a regular season pro game. Drafted college players who never play in a regular season pro game will revert to/stick with Infobox college football player. We have something like 1,000 to 1,500 historical All-Americans and major award winners who never played pro ball and should all be using the CFB box, too. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 19:41, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

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Happy Easter

Happy Easter
Happy Easter....  ! Hafspajen (talk) 19:03, 5 April 2015 (UTC)


Thanks, same to you! People like those over at the Swedish Wiki are why I'm semi-retired around here... --Zeng8r (talk) 20:30, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Well, you are getting in the middle of it now and than. Hafspajen (talk) 00:26, 6 April 2015 (UTC)