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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted 22:39, 13 June 2007.

Flood (Halo)[edit]

I've been working on this article for a long time. Come to think of it, it was my first GA. Anyhow, presenting it here for your consideration. David Fuchs (talk / frog blast the vent core!) 00:22, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose: the article is entirely in-universe and thus fails criteria 1b. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 06:43, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. Citation 17 and 18 point to the same page of the same book. Either there is a typo in the page number, or they need to be merged. - Mgm|(talk) 09:16, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Citations fixed. David Fuchs (talk / frog blast the vent core!) 15:10, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Juggernauts are not canon; as for the refs, I made a minor change in phrase; we don't know exactly what the bodies were for, only inferences made from the Halo Graphic Novel. David Fuchs (talk / frog blast the vent core!) 21:09, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment* mentioning sragent johnsons and hunters immunities

or reasons of why a flood couldnt infect something Jenkins also or at least linked Agentheartlesspain 21:22, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose While some of the article is written from a decent enough out of universe perspective, it contains no real out of universe information. How were they developed? How were they received by the world? Have they had any notable impact upon culture? It really should never have passed its GA nomination. You also should cut down on the in-universe information. I don't really see the point in going so in-depth on just the variants. TTN 21:23, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Good work and if anything just keep expanding it and developing it further! :) --164.107.222.23 22:53, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose due to the lack of any out-of-universe information. What was the inspiration for the Flood, whether it be from the real world or another kind of media? What is the reaction from professional game reviewers to the Flood in the game, in terms of both design and gameplay? There is not enough real-world context for this article to warrant serious recognition. I would recommend looking at FAs of fictional characters (and races, if any exist) for some guideline. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 20:39, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - I think everyone has established the major problem with this page. For help, might I suggest taking a look at Jabba the Hutt, Palpatine, Padme Amidala, Jack Sparrow, or one that would be closer to this medium... Link (The Legend of Zelda).  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 00:50, 9 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Something to specifically point to. Look at Link's "characteristics" section. Look at how it is written. It isn't written like the character is real (i.e. It appears that the Flood can infect recently dead lifeforms, as the Prophet of Regret is assimilated by Gravemind shortly after being assassinated by the Master Chief in Halo 2). Though you are attributing things to a game, instead of simply the fictional world, the tone in which you are writing suggests that the character is real, that it actually did the things you are saying. When you write about fictional characters, you need to show us the why. Why did the creator make him this way, and why did the creator make him do that; as opposed to just saying "The character appears like this in Halo 2, and does this in Halo 1". Did I explain that well enough? I ask because fictional characters can be one of the hardest things to write about (trust me, I've been working on one particular one for months now), and I want to try and make it as clear as possible since you have a good start. It seems you have a lot of good sources, but what's lacking is the identification that this character was created by someone else, and we need to know why they chose what they chose, and how they accomplished that. Also look at the "Conception and creation" section for Link. Read over that, it is a good example of how you attribute an idea to a living person.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 01:00, 9 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose, not enough real-world information. However, I thin the information could very well be out there, so making this featured in the future might not be out of the question. -- Ned Scott 04:07, 9 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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