Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Frank Zappa/archive1

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Frank Zappa[edit]

First FAC: Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Frank Zappa/Archive 1

Well written, comprehensive and informative article. The concerns about adequite citations from the previous FAC seem to have been addressed as there is a very large section of works cited included. Hamster Sandwich 21:22, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Object for now. Article has a "further reading" section - are these supposed to be the references? Were they actually used as references, or are they just sources that probably back up the claims of the article? There is a difference. I'd prefer an actual references section. Inline citations would be good too eventually. Also the above archive link above doesn't seem to be working. --W.marsh 21:36, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    This has been somewhat addressed, but Allen3's second comment below summarizes the still remaing problems quite well. If the references were cleaned up as described there it would do a whole lot. As I mentioned elsewhere, there are some POV claims in the article that are totally uncited. I just don't think a featured article should, say, proclaim their subjects "legendary" or "gifted" - though citing someone notable who says that is fine. Hence, reference problems. --W.marsh 00:46, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Object. As per Wikipedia:Citing sources#Further reading/external links, references are kept seperate from the further reading and external links sections because they serve different purposes. The long list of intermingled citations needs to be seperated and some form of inline citation added to allow a fact checker to double check the article's sources without undue effort. --Allen3 talk 22:32, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    The referencing still needs a fair amount of work. The quick split helped, but the majority of the article lacks any form of inline citation. The embedded HTML links (the only form of inline citation I was able to find) need to be converted into proper citations. In addition, there appears to be two or more different citation styles used in the further reading and references sections. The article needs to be standardized on a single style of citation. If you are not sure which citation style you wish to use, I suggest looking at the current citation templates. Please see WP:CITE for more information on what is expected. --Allen3 talk 00:09, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I couldn't help but notice the lack of reference to 'Guitar Johnny'. I am not expert enough to add the necesary lines but he was a major influence on Frank's guitar style & a lifelong friend. On a tv documentary I have he is one of the guests at a party for Zappa to comiserate with his impending death.


I think this is one of the best written articles on Wikipedia. It should be featured. Overdubbed 02:19, 12 May 2006 (UTC) Please get this article featured soon![reply]