Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Greater Crested Tern

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The article was promoted by User:SandyGeorgia 19:31, 12 August 2008 [1].

Greater Crested Tern[edit]

Nominator(s): jimfbleak (talk)

I'm nominating this article for featured article because it's passed GA, and been peer reviewed. Some nice images and relatively short jimfbleak (talk) 07:17, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

All sources check out fine.
I see no indication that Image:Crestedtern2.jpg is GFDL/CC licensed. The link provided wouldn't load for me; do we have any proof that User:Martybugs is the same person as http://martybugs.net/gallery ? —Giggy 08:13, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User:Martybugs Gives these details: contact details, view my website, view my photo gallery, or visit my blog. The blog has the name Martin Pot, email address is mpot@martybugs.net Image:IMG 2535 1000 crop.jpg has the summary "self-made by Martin Pot (martybugs)" so appear to be one and the same. I've asked him to clarify the summary page. The gallery link works from his userpage and from the image page for me - the gallery has all rights reserved, but doesn't include this image, presumably because it's GFDLed. Should I remove the image? jimfbleak (talk) 10:01, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nah, don't take it off yet. If you've contacted him then we'll wait a bit for a reply from him. I'm willing to assume it was him unless he says otherwise. —Giggy 03:37, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks jimfbleak (talk) 05:31, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I can confirm that it's definitely one of my images, and that I provided a 600 x 388 pixel version to wikipedia under a GFDL / cc-by-3.0 license. My wikipedia username is User:Martybugs, real name is "Martin Pot". Apologies for any confusion, but I've updated the image page to reference both my real name and wikipedia username. Martybugs (talk) 13:03, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments Some things I noticed at first glance:
Add non-breaking spaces.
~~Do not place left-aligned images directly below second-level (===) headings.~~

Moved image to comply with MoS. Rreagan007 (talk) 01:23, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 15:30, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure what I've missed here. All the measurements have nbsp, I've done it for the percentages to be on the safe side now, I've read the MoS page and still can't see where any other nbsp should go? jimfbleak (talk) 05:31, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support~~Comments~~ (moral or otherwise - I was a part-time contributor and Wikiproject birds member, and have been through this one a few times) ~~beginning a read through..~~.Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:06, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

which nests in dense colonies on coasts and islands in the tropical and subtropical Old World. - for me, 'coasts' flows funnily here. Maybe 'coastlines' or 'coastal areas' would be better.

..becomes less extensive in winter - 'recedes'?

::, and the offering of fish to the female is part of the male's courtship display. - I'd maybe make the comma a semicolon and rewrite as ', the male offers fish to the female as part of a (the?) courtship display.' - as this is a bit ungainly

I've fixed these. ~~What's happened to the taxobox template, not showing correctly on any bird page or in history at present~~ jimfbleak (talk) 06:27, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

sometimes among stunted vegetation - I'd say either 'among shrubs', or 'in vegetation', but not this combination.

Great Crested Terns has grown by an order of magnitude - I presume this means ten-fold? May be easier to say that instead.

Done these, should have thought of ten-fold myself jimfbleak (talk) 15:00, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tables: The information in the two tables could be combined into one table, if the species and describer columns were combined in the first table and an extra column was added for the population numbers. Snowman (talk) 08:48, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

done jimfbleak (talk) 09:30, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

~~Comments~~ Not as fascinating as Nuthatch, but I still enjoyed reading it! :) Here are my teensy-weensy suggestions for improvement:

Support This is a comprehensive, well-written, and well-researched article. Awadewit (talk) 15:00, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

~~In both the "Footnotes" and the "References" sections, the publication location and publisher of books is cited inconsistently and the ISBNs are formatted differently. Please standardize.~~

~~"cm" and "in" should be linked the first time they are mentioned, not later.~~

~~The paragraph about the bird calls seems to interrupt a description of how the birds look. Could this section be rearranged to bit so that it seamlessly flows from plumage to bird call?~~

~~Some overlinking perhaps? Lots of the geographical locations seemed to be linked multiple times.~~

The region also supports major colonies of other seabirds, and since nesting follows the summer monsoonal flooding, it is presumably a response to fish stocks rising due to nutrient enrichment of the Gulf by river run-off. - awkward sentence

Still seems wordy. Awadewit (talk) 15:00, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

~~I saw a bit of inconsistency in the AE/BE. It is supposed to be in BE, right? Someone needs to take a quick run through and check on that.~~

Image:SternaBergiMap2.svg - It would be good to have all the publication information for the book on which this map was based.

For some reason, the description and source books don't match.

Nice to be down to the nitpicks, isn't it? Awadewit (talk) 15:48, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I hope nothing has happened to the nominator. Awadewit (talk) 12:17, 9 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Many apologies for long delay, all fixed I think, except that I couldn't find any non-BE. My in-line spell check and an external spell check in Word found non-BE only in the refs, which of course I can't change. Can you point me to what I've overlooked? jimfbleak (talk) 06:17, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is this Oxford BE? If so, never mind. I thought I saw some -ize in there. Awadewit (talk) 15:00, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

-ize/-ise is optional for quite a few BE words, I'll check again though. jimfbleak (talk) 15:17, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

there are two "recognizes", but both in refs jimfbleak (talk) 15:28, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Parents do not recognize their own eggs or newly hatched chicks, but are able to distinguish their chicks by the time they are two days-old, shortly before they begin to wander from the nest - This doesn't look like a quotation to me, but perhaps I am missing something. `Awadewit (talk)

Support. Well written and researched. --maclean 05:49, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, jimfbleak (talk) 16:48, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support have done some copy edits. Content is good, some long sentences could still be split. Shyamal (talk) 15:48, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I'll have another read through see if there's anything I can tweak jimfbleak (talk) 16:48, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the Emu bits in particular. I've made a couple of minor changes. At this stage, it's difficult to keep track of the early fac edits and why they were made. jimfbleak (talk) 17:36, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support - as a reviewer I'm happy with this. Sabine's Sunbird talk 23:58, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, minor format fix helpful since I can't see that sort of thing myself jimfbleak (talk) 05:27, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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