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The article was archived by Ian Rose via FACBot (talk) 12 February 2024 [1].

Monique Ryan[edit]

Nominator(s): GraziePrego (talk) 00:12, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This article is about a current Independent member of the Australian House of Representatives. She is a thoroughly interesting person, having been a successful paediatric neurologist before entering politics, and is part of the "teal independent" movement in Australian politics that has recently become prominent. GraziePrego (talk) 00:12, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose by Nick-D[edit]

Sorry, but this is much more a GA than a FA and would need quite a bit of work to reach FA standard. I have the following comments:

  • The lead is too short
  • The sourcing is exclusively news stories and internet resources. There are a number of books on the Teal Movement (as noted on the talk page) and 2022 election that should be consulted.
  • The 'Medical career' section is a bit disjointed
  • Did Ryan have any involvement in politics before standing for election? Why she decided to stand is also unclear in the article at present.
  • The material on Ryan's dispute with Sally Rugg feels a bit brief, and doesn't really capture the the issue
  • Ryan was well known for her positioning on Covid, including advocating for mask wearing and various other types of restrictions after they had been lifted, but this isn't mentioned at all - the 'put your masks on' comment in parliament was prominent and attracted praise, but later became an albatross around her neck when she was repeatedly photographed at various events unmasked.
  • The 'Member of Parliament' section is rather bitsy, and jumps from issue to issue. It would be better to discuss how Ryan has positioned herself as an MP, including her overall voting record rather than listing various issues of at times unclear importance (for instance, on what types of issues does she side with the government and on what does she side with the the opposition? Has she successfully influenced government policy?)
  • On what grounds were the 'Selected publications' chosen? Nick-D (talk) 07:04, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I will have to correct you on one point- the sourcing is NOT exclusively news stories and internet resources, as I have sourced several points from Margot Saville’s The Teal Revolution. The other points I agree can be worked on. GraziePrego (talk) 07:20, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose by Sammi Brie[edit]

This is going to have to be a no as well on my end. The article reads very choppily. However, I do want to leave suggestions for improvement: Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 04:57, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lead
  • The lead is too short. A good lead section is like the article in miniature and reflects something from most if not all of the level-2 headers.
  • Ryan completed her medical qualifications in Melbourne, Sydney and Boston, before The last comma is not needed (WP:CINS).
Medical career
  • at the Children's Hospital Boston, in Boston Holy choppy. Say that out loud. Remove "in Boston".
  • Provide the abbreviation (RCH) on first mention if you are using the abbreviation.
2022 election campaign
  • On 12 December 2022, Ryan's campaign to be the independent member for Kooyong was launched at the Hawthorn Arts Centre. Avoid the passive voice and do "Ryan launched her campaign to be the independent member for Kooyong at..."
  • "3700" is a figure and should not start a sentence.
  • Change "March of 2022" to "March 2022".
  • Wikilink Sky News Australia.
  • Ryan described the phone call at the time as "respectful", but stated in The Teal Revolution The comma is not needed as there is no subject separate from the first half of the sentence. See WP:CINS.
Dispute with Sally Rugg
  • Rugg claimed to have been forced to work excessive hours, and that Ryan had justified this by saying that she wished to be Prime Minister one day. Another needless comma
Member of Parliament
  • Needs a comprehensive overhaul to not read like an archipelago of subsections, as well as more variety in the beginnings of sentences.
  • Is there an article on Stage 3 tax cuts? I'm seeing lots of chatter but no article. As someone not familiar with the current topics in Australian politics, I'd want a link here.
Personal life
  • Ryan is a supporter of the Carlton Football Club, and lives Another needless comma
Other
  • Consider making The Teal Revolution a one-time cite in a Bibliography section and using {{sfn}} to call it where needed. One of my FAs, WBPX-TV, similarly has a reference called by short footnotes unlike all its other refs.
SC
  • Oppose Sorry, it's an oppose from me too. There are some clearly missing sources ("Doctor in the House" in the Sydney Morning Herald of 23 July 2022 has a 5,500 word profile on her, including some on her early life, for example); there's some stubby paragraphs and the whole thing is a bit choppy on reading - it's not a smooth read at all, which is what good prose should be. - SchroCat (talk) 13:03, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Coord note[edit]

Per above comments I'll archiving this shortly. I'd strongly recommend peer review before considering another run at FAC. You could also try the FAC mentoring scheme. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 15:55, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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