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The list was promoted by Scorpion0422 21:53, 21 March 2009 [1].

BBC Sports Personality Team of the Year Award[edit]

Nominator(s): Rambo's Revenge (talk)
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This is my 6th award in a SPOTY topic. WikiCup entry. Thanks in advance for any comments. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 18:06, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Truco

Comments from Truco (talk · contribs)

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  • The award is given to the British team that "has achieved the most notable performance in British sport". -- Its really irrelevant IMO to link team, its very common. -Uninked
  • If this is also a tie the award is shared. -- Comma after "tie" -Done
  • In the past the winner of the Team of the Year Award has been chosen by public vote[3] and picked by listeners of Radio 5 Live.[ -- Comma after past -Done
  • The England national rugby union team and the Ryder Cup team has won the award on five occasions, each sharing the award with another team on one of those occasions.[6] Liverpool F.C. have won the award three times. -- Clarify that these are the most wins -Done
  • The largest winning team was in 2000; Team GB consisted of all the British representatives at the 2000 Olympic and Paralympic Games. -- what does TB mean?
  • It was "Team GB" and I have just linked the term as it redirects to the correct place. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 21:47, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Image
  • Remove the full stop from the caption of the first image. -Done
Notes
  • You should make a sub-notes section for all the entries, or just one section for notes, its inconsistent having a main section and 1 subsection for notes. -Done
By nation
  • The number of wins column does not sort properly. -Sorted :x
References
  • 35 - The URL is not the "work", the site is published by both publishers and the work is from both of them, which is in the publishers, so its not necessary to state the "work" because its the same as the publisher -Done

--₮RUCӨ 21:25, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support -- Previous issues resolved to meet WP:WIAFL standards.--₮RUCӨ 01:06, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 12:30, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved issues, Dabomb87 (talk)
Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)
  • "The award is decided by a panel of over 30 sporting journalists, with each panelist voting for their top two choices."-->The award's recipient is decided by a panel of over 30 sporting journalists, each of whom vote for their top two choices. -Done
  • "points total"-->point total -Done
  • "Since then, the award has been presented 50 more times. " Since it is an annual award, can't this be inferred? Also, including this would introduce the burden of having to update the count. -Removed
  • "the figure skating duo of Torvill and Dean who won in 1982 and 1983, and the Olympic men's coxless rowing pair of Steve Redgrave and Matthew Pinsent who won in 1992 and 1996. " "who won" is unnecessary in both instances. -Done
  • "Six different nations have been represented" -Done
  • "Team GB" Can you spell this out (define) on its first appearance?
    • Team GB isn't an abbreviation as such, it is the teams official name.[2]. Does it still need an additional summary? Rambo's Revenge (talk) 13:55, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • "one of which shared the award" "which"-->whom
  • "which had competitors"-->which fielded competitors -Done
  • "fifteen different sporting disciplines" -Done
  • There are couple instances where numbers should be converted to numeric form: "the remainder of the winning teams have represented fifteen" and "with twelve recipients" -Done
  • In the "By year" section, the legend has a grey background, but the table does not have any items with it.
    • I was trying to get a grey similar to the wikitable's grey as when they were white it looked like the cells needed to be white if they contained the symbol. I tried to find out the wikitable's default colour but couldn't find it. Do you know what it is? Rambo's Revenge (talk) 13:55, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • I think I have now found one much closer. Is it good enough? Rambo's Revenge (talk) 23:43, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      • I still can't see it, but the issue isn't important. Dabomb87 (talk) 01:48, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Can you input fractions with {{frac}} instead of the unicode entities? The former are easier to read. Dabomb87 (talk) 23:55, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Not done. They are too big for the table and the denominator gets partially cut off when you do (in my browser at least). Rambo's Revenge (talk) 13:55, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      • No problem, this was an issue with a few other users too. Dabomb87 (talk) 01:48, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 23:55, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from SRE.K.A.L.24

Comments from -- SRE.K.A.L.24[c]

  • "The award is given to the British team" Canada isn't British (I should know), and so isn't the European Union. just remove British.
  • Done. The rules say "To the (British only) team that has achieved the most notable performance in British sport.",[3] so I have added the word "currently" to clarify. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 10:20, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Isn't Auto racing the sport instead of Formula One? -Done
  • Couldn't you note which league were the football, rugby union, rugby league, etc. teams in?
  • I could but I don't think it is particularly relevent. For example, some teams may have finished low in the domestic league that year, but won some other European title. In fact, all but one of those teams were competing in their respective top flight at the time. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 10:20, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Same reason I had linked "Equestrianism" to Eventing in 1972, but Showjuping in 1979. It provides the more information about the specific type of sport if the reader is interested. The summary tables below use the general links for "Motor racing" and "Equestrianism" though. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 19:37, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

-- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]] 05:19, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • Why the table of the section "By year", is so shrunken? (width=50%) Cannibaloki 04:11, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The table didn't shrink with the width=50%, but actually got larger for better visualization. -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]]call me Keith 04:36, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Basically what SRE.K.A.L.24 says, the forced width is actually stretching the table. As for why 50%, if you try and stretch it across to the images there becomes an accessibility issue, as for other resolutions or smaller un-maximised windows, the table can get forced to start after the images which frankly looks awful. Rambo's Revenge (How am I doing?) 08:27, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Looks good, but there is some over-linking in the references section. Do BBC and BBC Sport really need to be linked dozens of times? You should just link the first use. (If you address this within the next three hours, let me know and I'll promote it today). -- Scorpion0422 20:58, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


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