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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Giants2008 23:04, 5 March 2012 [1].

Birdman discography[edit]

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Nominator(s): I Am Rufus • Conversation is a beautiful thing. 19:03, 8 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I've worked extensively to get this page up to standard, and think it meets the FLC criteria. Although I cannot guarantee that the page is already perfect, I feel it will not take too long to fix any issues anyone has. Based on my successful nomination of 50 Cent discography, I've formatted the page with the basic template I was given there, so it should be alright. I Am Rufus • Conversation is a beautiful thing. 19:03, 8 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Michael Jester (talk · contribs) 1:36 pm, Today (UTC−5)
Non-reviewer comments from Michael Jester
  • Add collaboration album to the infobox?
  • Infobox says 15 featured singles, but the lead says 14
  • What does "*" mean in the studio albums table?
  • Why is the certifications column in the studio albums table so skinny? Every other column is much higher and shows a full cert on a single line.
  • Pricele$$ -> Priceless.
  • Why is the Guest appearances table look so differently than the other songs? The artists are not labeled under the song title.
  • What does "—" mean in the Guest appearances table mean?
  • Does the "N/A" mean there was no director? Or is it just unknown?
    —Michael Jester (talk · contribs) 01:31, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I've dealt with every comment except for the sixth one: please excuse me if I'm missing the point, but what do you mean by saying that it "look so differently than the other songs" and that the "artists are not labeled under the song title"? Some elaboration is needed. I Am Rufus • Conversation is a beautiful thing. 18:30, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I'll explain via tables. This is how the table is formatted now for first couple of songs in the Guest appearances :
List of guest appearances, with other performing artists, showing year released and album name
Title Year Other performer(s) Album
"U.P.T."[1] 1998 Juvenile, Hot Boys 400 Degreez
"Never Had Shit"[2] 1999 Juvenile, B.G., Turk Tha G-Code
"Flamboastin'"[3] 2000 E-40 Loyalty and Betrayal
Re-doing the table to look like the other tables:
List of guest appearances, with other performing artists, showing year released and album name
Title Year Album
"U.P.T."[1]
(Juvenile featuring Hot Boys and Birdman) 		1998 400 Degreez
"Never Had Shit"[4]
(Juvenile featuring Birdman, B.G. & Turk) 		1999 Tha G-Code
"Flamboastin'"[5]
(E-40 featuring Birdman) 		2000 Loyalty and Betrayal
I'd prefer to use to second one, as it shows whos song it is. But, as I am not reviewing, just giving comments, you don't have to listen to this one; it's just a preference.
—Michael Jester (talk · contribs) 22:49, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I see what you mean now. Don't ask me why, but the format I used is generally the standard format for guest appearances tables. I see your point, but for consistency's sake I'll stick with the format I already have. I Am Rufus • Conversation is a beautiful thing. 18:00, 11 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
That's fine.
—Michael Jester (talk · contribs) 18:38, 11 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 19:38, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comments

The Rambling Man (talk) 18:29, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Giants2008 (Talk) 23:44, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comments –
  • Ref 1 should be moved outside the parenthesis mark on its first use. Also, why does this need a cite here when the remainder of the sentence is sourced by the same reference?
  • The em dashes at the end of the second paragraph are improperly spaced per the Manual of Style. Either make them unspaced or convert them to en dashes (the smaller ones).
  • Alt text would be nice to have for the image.
  • In note I, the "a chart" could be shortened to "which" like in the other notes. This would make the writing a shade tighter, which is important even in a note.
  • For all Rap-Up refs (12, 88, 89, 91, and 108), the publisher should be italicized since it is a print publication. One of the reasons it helps to do this, in addition to it being proper style, is that it helps reviewers to establish that a given source can be trusted. I was about to ask whether Rap-Up was a reliable source before clicking on the wikilink and seeing what it was.

Giants2008 (Talk) 03:32, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support Great work. NapHit (talk) 18:39, 22 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 18:47, 9 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
WP Comments
  • "... and thirty-nine singles, including nineteen as a featured artist." – Are there 39 singles plus 19 collabs or are 19 of those part of the 39 in total? Also, this is probably a format followed in several discographies, but the "singles as a featured artist" wording is ungrammatical; "nineteen with him as a featured artist" would work though.
  • Per MOS:NUM, comparable numbers should be consistently written as figures or words. In other words, you cannot have "number two" but "number 36". You can have either "number 2" and "number 36" or "number two" and "number thirty-six". This is something you'll have to check in the lead. All chart positions should only be written either way.
  • "In 2010, Birdman appeared on the Kevin Rudolf single "I Made It (Cash Money Heroes)" alongside Lil Wayne and singer Jay Sean, which reached number 21 on the Hot 100[2] and charted in Australia,[9] New Zealand[10] and the United Kingdom." - A bit ungrammatical because the relative pronoun "which" must be immediately after what it's referring to, which in this case, should be the single, not Jay Sean.
  • "The album" is used a bit too often. Try and find opportunities where it can be replaced by "it" or something else. It gets repetitive after some time.
  • Studio albums: does the "... or was not released in that territory" apply here? The song charted on another US chart.
  • Likewise in Other charted songs.
  • "'—' denotes unknown album." and "'N/A' denotes unknown director." - missing "an".
  • What makes Datpiff a high quality reliable source?
  • Why is 5 * Stunna in the references surrounded in quotations instead of being italicized? It's an album, non?
  • Not too fussy over this, but you could add a link to Birdmanstunna.com (official site) in an External links section.
  • There seems to be some linking inconsistency the Collaboration singles and As featured performer tables, where the chart abbreviations are not linked.
  • "... or was not released in that territory" also appears redundant in the Collaboration singles table, where all three charts are based in the US.

Good work! —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 18:55, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support as I see no reason not to. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 18:47, 9 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support good, well-referenced work. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:55, 28 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Image review: The image used appears to be free and properly tagged. Goodraise 23:00, 29 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.
  1. ^ a b Birchmeier, Jason. "400 Degreez – Juvenile > Overview". Allmusic. Rovi Corporation. Retrieved December 23, 2011.
  2. ^ Birchmeier, Jason. "Tha G-Code – Juvenile > Overview". Allmusic. Rovi Corporation. Retrieved December 23, 2011.
  3. ^ Birchmeier, Jason. "Loyalty and Betrayal – E-40 > Overview". Allmusic. Rovi Corporation. Retrieved January 8, 2012.
  4. ^ Birchmeier, Jason. "Tha G-Code – Juvenile > Overview". Allmusic. Rovi Corporation. Retrieved December 23, 2011.
  5. ^ Birchmeier, Jason. "Loyalty and Betrayal – E-40 > Overview". Allmusic. Rovi Corporation. Retrieved January 8, 2012.
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