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GLAAD Media Award for Outstanding Music Artist[edit]

GLAAD Media Award for Outstanding Music Artist (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Nominator(s): PanagiotisZois (talk) 18:21, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

One of the few remaining GLAAD Media Award lists to work on. This award is one of GLAAD's oldest and has gone through quite a few changes in the 1990s, but has remained mostly the same since 2003. Given to queer music artists or allies that use their music to promote LGBT acceptance, it is one of the few awards at the GLAADys that is given to a specific person, rather than a work. Although not all that into music, it was fun to work on another list where I got to add so many pictures. --PanagiotisZois (talk) 18:21, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by ChrisTheDude[edit]

  • "GLAAD first recognized music at the 2nd GLAAD Media Awards in 1991, with Two Nice Girls winning an award" - do we not have a specific title for the award they won?
    • The source itself doesn't specify. In fact, the source doesn't even tell us what the name of the award was. Before I started editing the page, it was stated that they won for Like a Version, but this isn't mentioned in the source, so..
  • "Initially, the award could only be given to artists that were openly LGBT" - when you say "initially", does that actually mean "since 2000"? Because Garth Brooks definitely isn't openly LGBT and I don't think Janet Jackson is either..........
    • This is one area where GLAAD's early history regarding categories and criteria was in quite a flux. From the sources available, at least from around 2010 to 19, music artists had to be openly queer, and this was changed in 2020. However, according to this source, from 2002-03 when the category was known as Outstanding Music Album, the criteria stated that the "album may be nominated if it is by an openly gay artist - even if the lyrics are not explicitly about gay issues. Or, the album may be by a non-gay artist, if there is more than one song which addresses LGBT issues".
      • Maybe change "Initially, the award could only be given to artists that were openly LGBT" to "At one time, the award could only be given to artists that were openly LGBT".....? Because "initially" definitely doesn't look accurate -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 06:59, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
        • Done. I hope it's ok now. --PanagiotisZois (talk) 22:58, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
          • You still have "Moreover, while the award was initially given to openly queer artists....." (apologies, I may have missed before that "initially" was used in two places..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:15, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Melissa Etheridge won Outstanding Recording Artist in 1994, for "I'm the Only One" (1994), and Greatest Hits: The Road Less Traveled (2005)." - she didn't win in 1994 for both these releases
    • I can see how it might be confusing. She won in 1994 in the Outstanding Recording Artist (without any work being recognized), and then in 1995 for a work from the previous year. Maybe I can slightly rewrite the sentence?
      • OK, I get it now. In that case I suggest changing it to "Melissa Etheridge won Outstanding Recording Artist in 1994, and also won awards for "I'm the Only One" (1994), and Greatest Hits: The Road Less Traveled (2005)." -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 06:59, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think that's it! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 21:03, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:01, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Aoba47[edit]

  • I would encourage you to add WP:ALT text to all of the images.
  • Done, Although I never know what exactly to include in alt descriptions. I went for the most basic and simple ones. Hopefully they suffice. --PanagiotisZois (talk) 23:27, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • I do not think ALT text is really standardized so you are good. I am also never quite sure what to put there as there is such a huge range when it comes to how descriptive or not it can be. Everything looks good to me though. Aoba47 (talk) 23:42, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have a comment for the images in the actual list itself. I do not think it is encouraged to use image size parameters like "120px". I have seen this kind of comment crop up on FACs. For that reason, I would use the WP:Upright command instead and adjust accordingly.
  • Thank you for addressing this part. I know it is a pain. Aoba47 (talk) 23:11, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Lol, that was like the easiest one to do. XD
  • I am curious on the placement of the Adam Lambert and Frank Ocean tie in the lead. The last paragraph seems to be more focused on those kinds of stats (like Rufus Wainwright being the most-awarded in the category) so that information seems better suited there than the second paragraph, which seems to be more about the history of the nominations and wins and shifting titles.
  • I looked at some of the previous lists I've worked on; apparently I was simply following their lead. I think the main reason for placing there is because that section concerns itself with the history of the award, while the last paragraph is mostly focused on the nominees based on how many nominations / wins they've amassed. --PanagiotisZois (talk) 23:59, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you for the explanation. That makes sense to me. Just to be clear, this was more of a clarification question than anything. Aoba47 (talk) 00:10, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I hope these comments are helpful. I will read through the list a few more times once everything has been addressed just to make sure I do my due diligence as a reviewer. I hope you have an excellent weekend! Aoba47 (talk) 21:09, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thank you for addressing everything! I support this FLC for promotion based on the prose. If possible, I would appreciate any feedback on my current FAC, but I completely understand if you do not have the time or interest. Best of luck with this FLC! Aoba47 (talk) 00:10, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Pseud 14[edit]

  • Starting with the 11th GLAAD Media ... Starting with the 15th GLAAD Media Awards in 2004, -- two consecutive sentences that begin with starting with perhaps a variation i.e. beginning with or somewhere along those lines.
  • but this criterion was altered starting -- I don't know if it's just me, maybe, but altered sounds a bit negative (in a way that someone altered the results or something), perhaps revised or changed as a suggestion.
  • Rufus Wainwright seems to be linked twice in the lead.
  • That's it from me. Another great work within the GLAAD series. Pseud 14 (talk) 18:03, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Pseud 14: Thank you. Only 3 more competitive awards to go, but I'm not sure when I'll do them. Anyway, revised list based on statements. --PanagiotisZois (talk) 21:16, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Nice work on this series, I'll keep an eye out for future FLCs. On a separate note, if you have spare time or inclination, wondering if I could get your input on my current FLC. Pseud 14 (talk) 21:24, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Pseud 14: Thank you. :D And sure, I'd love helping another Filipina's page. --PanagiotisZois (talk) 11:34, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks PanagiotisZois. I have put forward a recent one needing more review: List of awards and nominations received by Kyla. Pseud 14 (talk) 12:00, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Source review – The sources are sufficiently reliable and well-formatted. The link-checker was having issues accessing ref 55, but I was able to view the page without problems. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:30, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sorting does not work on the first table- the multi-column cells make it sort into a messy pile instead. I've disabled it there; otherwise no issues promoting. --PresN 18:15, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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