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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by User:The Rambling Man 09:23, 26 July 2008 [1].

List of Colorado Avalanche head coaches[edit]

I am nominating this article because I believe it is featured list criteria. Annoyomous24 00:01, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose. Bad intro. The first sentence is a statement of fact that has nothing to do with introducing the article. The second sentence doesn't make much sense; what does "NHL side" mean? Which Division is it a member of? Intro needs general work. --Golbez (talk) 12:27, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What do you mean the first sentence has nothing to do with the article. The article is about the coaches of the Quebec Nordiques and the Colorado Avalanche. I fixed the second sentence. Annoyomous24 20:46, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
In a list, we generally start the article by saying what the list is of. This one, it gives a statement of fact not directly related to the subject of the list. If the first sentence were about the coaches... it would be akin to if I started a list of the presidents of the united states with the line, "The United States is a country in North America." That's fine and dandy, but what's the article about? --Golbez (talk) 20:50, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If I say what the article is about in the first sentence, that will be repeating the article title. How about if I moved the second sentence, "This list also includes the NHL portion of the head coaches of the Quebec Nordiques." as "This list is about the head coaches of the Colorado Avalache. This list also includes the NHL portion of the head coaches of the Quebec Nordiques." to the starting sentence? Annoyomous24 21:26, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Since at least one coach FL has this format, I can look past the first sentence, and withdraw my oppose. --Golbez (talk) 15:34, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank for the withdrawal of your oppose. Annoyomous24 20:20, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment If you placed the merge tag on the article, then shouldn't this FLC be placed on hold until the merge is resolved? Gary King (talk) 20:48, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I merged already. Annoyomous24 22:04, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose WP:HOCKEY standard is to have these teams articles seperate for things such as lists etc. Nominator should have notified the hockey project of his merge proposal. -Djsasso (talk) 15:52, 24 July 2008 (UTC) Removing oppose since I fixed, please notify appropriate projects when making such a merge. -Djsasso (talk) 16:04, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
A discussion on the merge has been started on the talk page, feel free to bring your opinions. My suggestion would be to just get the last bit of info for the missing Quebec coaches and bring that list to FL. This one is definately close to FL but is on the shorter side. A bunch more prose would probably remove the concerns about it being too short. -Djsasso (talk) 17:15, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong oppose consider withdrawal. This list is too short to be on its own, let alone be featured.--Crzycheetah 08:15, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose: First off, I agree that this is far too short a list to warrant promotion. Secondly, the language is clumsy, choppy, overworded and not remotely close to “professional standard writing” as the criteria require: “The team are currently members” instead of “The team is a member,” for instance, never mind that a casual reader might wonder who these Quebec Nordiques are and what they have to do with anything. Thirdly, the creator is not a member of WP:HOCKEY, and doesn’t seem to have a grasp of the Wikiproject’s standards and practices; certainly he’s not solicited the project to aid or review this article. Finally, the creator seems to be headhunting FLs … as witness List of Phoenix Suns head coaches, an article he created Wednesday and nominated for FL status one minute after creation. I’m going to go clean up the language some, but his article isn’t close to the best work the encyclopedia can produce and never should have been proposed.  RGTraynor  17:27, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reply to Crzycheetah and RGTraynor Djsasso divided this article into two section, Quebec Nordiques head coaches and Colorado Avalanche head coaches. I am currently trying to merge these two back again. Please hold on to your opposes until the merge problem is fixed. -- K. Annoyomous24 19:51, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Let me clarify. I unmerged a merge that had no discussion take place. -Djsasso (talk) 19:53, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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