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The list was promoted by Scorpion0422 23:58, 3 February 2009 [1].

List of New York Islanders award winners[edit]

iMatthew // talk // 20:53, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 18:22, 1 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]
Resolved issues, Dabomb87 (talk)

Weak oppose from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs) Nice to see a different type of sports list, but there are many problems. These are just from the top:

  • I'm not sure about the title of this article. How about: List of New York Islanders awards and accomplishments, a la Portland Trail Blazers accomplishments and records?
  • "The team has won the Clarence S. Campbell Bowl trophy"
  • "Denis Potvin, Bryan Trottier, and Mike Bossy are the team's most decorated players, with all three winning the Calder Memorial Trophy once." You say they are the most decorated and then you say that they have won a trophy? What is the criteria for "most decorated"? Instead, say how many awards/achivements that they have won. The sentence construction is also awkward with the noun + -ing.
  • Prune this redundancy-plagued phrase: "In addition, they have also won other various awards"
  • "Other management personnel to be inducted"-->Other management personnel who have been inducted
  • "General manager" Why is this capitalized? Also, it would be more useful if you pipe linked this to the "Sports teams" section in that article.
  • Whenever a year range is preceded by "from", do not use an en dash. Example: "from 1972–1992"-->from 1972 to 1992.
  • "In its history" Another redundant phrase; when else could they have won these awards?
  • "Bryan Trottier, Denis Potvin, and Mike Bossy are some of the Islanders' most decorated players" In the lead, you say they are the most decorated. Now you say that they are only of the most decorated players. Which is it? Dabomb87 (talk) 22:24, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I will come back for more comments later. One thing: Fix the dabs. Dabomb87 (talk) 15:18, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The New York Islanders have retired six numbers. Of the six retired numbers, five players have been inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame." Confusing. Readers who don't understand these things will be confused over retired numbers and players.
  • "One of these is for Al Arbour, Islanders head coach for 19 seasons."-->One of these is for Al Arbour, who was the Islanders' head coach for 19 seasons.
  • "Another banner is for Bill Torrey, General manager of the Islanders from 1972 to 1992."-->Another banner is for Bill Torrey, who was the general manager of the Islanders from 1972 to 1992.
  • "Potvin recorded 310 goals in 1060 games for the Islanders, while Bossy recorded 573 goals in 752 games." "while"-->and.
  • In the "All Star Games selections" "Year" column, change the header to "All Star Game" or something like that.
  • "33 All-Star Games have been held since the Islanders arrived on Long Island, with at least one player representing the Islanders in each year, but the 2001, 1999, and 1979 games." Don't start sentences with numerals; the noun + -ing ("player representing") structure is awkward.
  • "The All-Star game has not been held in various years" "various"-->several.
  • "Mike Bossy played a franchise high"-->Mike Bossy played a franchise-high

Still not there yet. Find a copy-editor (User:Maxim or User:Resolute) to look at it. Dabomb87 (talk) 16:18, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • I've done a copy-edit this morning on request. Resolute 16:32, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
One more thing: This article needs to be linked on the navbox (no need to stall promotion over it though). Dabomb87 (talk) 00:00, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 18:22, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • For the Hockey-Reference sources, Hockey-Reference is the work and Sports Reference LLC. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:24, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Sure, thanks for the comments. Will get to as soon as possible. iMatthew // talk // 23:01, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Done with everything. Thanks. iMatthew // talk // 13:30, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Is it just me or is this article uncategorized? – Nurmsook! talk... 21:19, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Several teams offer internal team awards; i.e.: The Molson Cup for the Canadian franchises. Do the Islanders have any such awards? Resolute 16:32, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Not that I'm aware of (or could find, anywhere). iMatthew // talk // 16:36, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Just kidding! I found one, and added it in. iMatthew // talk // 18:22, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Heh, good add. Support meets WP:WIAFL, well written. Resolute 06:52, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Truco

Comments from Truco (talk · contribs)

  • Following league realignment in 1981, they then captured the Prince of Wales Trophy as Wales Conference playoff champion consecutively from 1982 to 1984. - wouldn't it be "the" Wales Conference playoff champion?
  • Denis Potvin, Bryan Trottier, and Mike Bossy have won four to five awards each, with all three winning the Calder Memorial Trophy as rookie of the year in their first NHL seasons. - have won four to five awards is badly worded. How about saying, "have won at least three awards"?
  • Other management personnel who have been inducted include Al Arbour, who coached the Islanders for his entire career, and Bill Torrey, who held the general manager position from 1972 to 1992. - be consistent, state from what years Arbour coached
  • Trottier and Bossy have both won the Conn Smythe Trophy once, awarded to the most valuable player of the playoffs. - add "which is" before awarded
  • The All-Star game has not been held in several years: 1995 and 2005 as a result of labor stoppages, 2006 because of the Winter Olympics, and 1979 and 1987 due to the Challenge Cup and Rendez-vous '87 series between the NHL and the Soviet national team respectively. - comma before respectively--TRUCO 17:02, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - problems fixed to meet WP:WIAFL, in addition, I participated in this article's peer review, so I find it up to standards.--TRUCO 19:25, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - One minor thing though, in the table for Individual awards there seems to be a stray cell between the Seasons header and the 1978–79 cell. I tried to remove it but couldn't. Perhaps it could just be colspan/rowspan playing up. This however doesn't effect my support. Sunderland06 (talk) 01:58, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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