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The list was promoted by User:The Rambling Man 15:55, 24 August 2008 [1].

List of UEFA Cup Winners' Cup winners[edit]

I'm putting this list up for FLC as I believe that it meets the criteria necessary to become a featured list. The list has undergone a peer review where issues were ironed out. Thanks in advance for your comments. NapHit (talk) 18:47, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved stuff from Mattythewhite
  • Comments
    • Shouldn't the list be renamed "List of UEFA Cup Winners' Cup winners", as per the other lists?
    • "...held in 1999;[1] with"... - the semicolon could just be a comma.
    • Barcelona doesn't need to be wikilinked on its second instance.
    • The key should have some features from the UEFA Cup one, including rewording to "winners" and explaining what "Bold" represents.

Thanks, Mattythewhite (talk) 10:35, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done all, thanks for the comments matty NapHit (talk) 15:01, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Nearly there - "Extra time" in the key doesn't need to be capitalised. Mattythewhite (talk) 15:10, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Cheers for spotting that matty corrected now NapHit (talk) 15:21, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 17:26, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments
    • Image caption - champion -> winner, and no full stop.
    • Could link seasonal to Season (sports) to avoid confusion with summer, spring etc..!
    • "a straight knock-out tournament" - is straight required here? I think I know what you mean (i.e. no round-robin beforehand?) but I'm not sure to a non-expert that this is clear.
    • "reorganisation of their cup competitions" - while I love discretionary plurals, I think here it would be appropriate to say "of its cup competitions" as UEFA is a single entity.
    • Odd placement of the winner of the first tournament (i.e. after the last winner) - reorganise that.
    • " before it was abolished." - they can't have won it after it was abolished, and you've already told us it's abolished, so this seems redundant to me.
    • I like the country sorting!
    • Note d is missing a full stop.
    • Did you borrow my references?! (Kidding, hope you did, might have saved you some work!).
  • The Rambling Man (talk) 18:20, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ha yeh I borrowed a few of your sources glad you don't mind, I've corrected all the faults you pointed out, cheers NapHit (talk) 14:39, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Killervogel5

Comments from Killervogel5
Just a couple of things.

  • "The first competition was won by Fiorentina who beat Rangers 4–1 over two-legs to win the 1961 Final" - Two legs should not have a dash because it refers to the two legs (it's not an adjective like in two-legged final). Also, any reason why two-legged is linked on its third occurrence instead of first?
  • "with Lazio triumphing over Real Mallorca." - I really don't like the use of "triumphing over" here, seems a little WP:WEASEL or WP:NPOV. I would use "defeating" instead.
  • This isn't a deal breaker by any means, but could you tell me why you use footnotes for other victory notes and in the two-legged final, you don't? I might feel better if there was a footnote saying Fiorentina won 4-1 on aggregate.
  • In the references section, use semicolons to make sections (;General references) rather than subheadings.

Other than that, the list itself looks good!

Review by Killervogel5
The only reason there are notes for certain matches are that these matches finished in a draw and were decided either on penalties or in a replay, so a note is required to explain this. Also in the two-legged final there is a column underneath which tells the score. Thanks for the comments. NapHit (talk) 18:38, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support from Killervogel5 - Good work!

Comments

  • Why does it not have the results of replays?
The results of the replays are in the notes section NapHit (talk) 17:26, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Notes column is mostly refs.
The notes column are for both notes and refs NapHit (talk) 17:26, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Don't really need the sorting buttons.
    • They are notable enough to be in the table. Bucs (talk) 10:40, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Actually, sort facilities should be included wherever possible, per FLC criterion 4. KV5 • Squawk box • Fight on! 13:12, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • Only when it's a list of numbers (I might be wrong there but I'm preetty sure). Bucs (talk) 10:40, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The sort function can be used for names, places and other stuff as well as numbers NapHit (talk) 15:16, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Since the "Most successful teams" section is so called does it really need to list every single team?
I don't really see a problem with this it's providing useful information and if I just included the winners, some of whom have been runners-up it would be wrong not to include every team that has not been runners-up.

Bucs (talk) 08:28, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, though... I think you should keep the information but not call it "most successful." Makes it seem like the list could be incomplete when in reality, it's not. KV5 • Squawk box • Fight on! 17:38, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ok I've changed it to "Winners by teams" hopefully that sorts the problem NapHit (talk) 18:03, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Might it be better as "Results by team," since there are some non-winners? KV5 • Squawk box • Fight on! 18:17, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Done NapHit (talk) 18:41, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Otherwise sources look good, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:36, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the comments all issues have been taken care off NapHit (talk) 15:36, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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