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The list was promoted by Hahc21 00:31, 23 July 2013 (UTC) [1].[reply]

List of works by Amir Hamzah[edit]

List of works by Amir Hamzah (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Nominator(s):  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:05, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because it is ready. Taking a break from film, I give you the bibliography of one of the most celebrated Indonesian poets (and one of few to be considered a National Hero of Indonesia, although that was likely more for his being martyred than his poetry). Amir Hamzah was only active for a short period but proved quite productive (as you can see in the list). This is based on SchroCat's List of works by H. C. McNeile, recently featured. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:05, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Bloom6132 (talk) 04:36, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comments –
  • "at several cities in" – changed to "in several cities on Sumatra and Java" (since the latter two are islands)
  • "he wrote his first poems in this period" – replaced "in"; sounds better with "during"
  • "Forced to return to Langkat and marry in 1937, after the proclamation of Indonesian independence in 1945, Hamzah became a representative of the nascent government in Langkat." – switch the last two parts of the sentence around. It flows better with less commas – "Forced to return to Langkat and marry in 1937, Hamzah became a representative of the nascent government in Langkat after the proclamation of Indonesian independence in 1945." This also links directly to the next sentence of "The following year…"
  • "Later works departed from the traditional structure" – replace "the" with "this"
  • "88Years" – what? I'm guessing that's suppose to be "Years".

—Bloom6132 (talk) 15:59, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Lemonade51 (talk) 12:07, 14 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • "4 short stories, 3 poetry collections, and 1 original book." shouldn't numbers before 10 be spelt out? So four short stories, three poetry collections...
  • Per NUMERAL: "Comparable quantities should be all spelled out or all figures: we may write either 5 cats and 32 dogs or five cats and thirty-two dogs, not five cats and 32 dogs.". See almost any discography article for other examples. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:05, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from SchroCat (talk) 07:21, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from SchroCat

All very good here, so I'm going into ultra-pedantic mode on a couple of these...

  • "His translated poems were anthologized in Setanggi Timoer (1939), and in 1962 documentarian HB Jassin compiled all of Hamzah's remaining works – save the book Sastera Melajoe Lama dan Radja-Radja'nja – as Amir Hamzah: Radja Penjair Pudjangga Baru.[1]" I had to read this a couple of times to get the sense of it, so a slight re-wording may be useful. Additionally, "save the book" sounds like a campaign (anti-Kindle perhaps?) so I'd suggest using "except";
  • "The articles of Amir Hamzah". I think the sort is a bit off here (or it is if the sort is by the title): "De Islamietische Vrouw en Haar Recht" and "Inleiding Tot de Studie van den Heiligen Qoer-an" switch places.
  • Fixed. The HS template had "de" in it, which is a big no-no.00:01, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
  • "Original poems". A switch on this one as well: "Tjempaka Moelia" and "Tjempaka..." switch on the sort.
  • One entry tables ("Books", "Translated books" and "Translated lyrical prose"): Is there a need for these to be sortable?

Another great addition to Wiki's ever-growing "Indonesian culture" section! - SchroCat (talk) 21:28, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks for the review (and the template to build on!) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:01, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support. All good here. Actually, much better than good: excellent! It's nice to see a broader world view of matters coming up both generally and at the levels of very high-quality work too. - SchroCat (talk) 07:21, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 16:51, 11 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Not convinced we need to link book.
  • For the sake of keeping it standardised (it would seem odd if book were the only one not linked). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:37, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • " in Poedjangga Baroe." maybe context here, i.e. "in the Indonesian literary magazine Poedjangga Baroe."?
  • Added to the first mention (minus Indonesian). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:37, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • "majority of Hamzah's writings. He wrote the majority of" bit repetitive.
  • Perhaps make the infobox the same order as the sections.
  • There are no "poetry collections" in the inofobox, just "Collections".
  • Similarly, there's "original poems" in the article, but "Poems" in the infobox.
  • Reworked the infobox code, rearranged the article. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:37, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Hamzah translated a poem by Du Fu." would be nice for context to know who Du Fu was.
  • Similarly "Fukuda Chiyo-ni." Etc.
  • Foulcher ref: "High Literature and Nationalism in Indonesia 1933-142" perhaps that should be 1942, and also should use an en-dash.
  • No available Indonesian categories that might suit here?

The Rambling Man (talk) 18:53, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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