Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Nightwish discography/archive3

The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by The Rambling Man 18:26, 7 February 2011 [1].

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Nightwish discography

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Nominator(s): Rodrigo15 (talk) 01:05, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because i've just solved all the problems cited during the last nomination. So, i think it's ready now. Rodrigo15 (talk) 01:05, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Support. I've done a little copy editing, and I see no problems otherwise. The Utahraptor^Talk/_Contribs 03:18, 15 January 2011 (UTC) Oppose per GreatOrangePumpkin. Sorry for the mistakes; this is the first time I've voted in an FLC. The Utahraptor^Talk/_Contribs 14:04, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

• Actually you have to look at this disco more deeply; if you have "done a little copy editing" that doesn't mean that this disco meets all of the FL criteria.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 13:45, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

• Disambig/External Link check - There are no Dab links but there is a dead link. GamerPro64 (talk) 03:23, 15 January 2011 (UTC)done

• Comment Please avoid multiple, useless linking, as you did in the certs column.done-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 13:17, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

• Oppose
  • WW links to "World"done
  • Why no peak chart for Once in the UK?done The informations says that Once charted as 102 in UK, but i couldn't find any reference about it, so i didn't listed it.
  • What does — means, i.e. add a note at the bottom (for example | colspan="23" style="font-size:8pt;"| "—" denotes releases that did not chart.done
  • x -> ×done
  • Why are the number of certs behind the "Platinum" or "Gold"?done
  • Nightwish's first release ever why not just ...first release.?done
  • Other Appearances: I would add an extra column for the refs.done
  • "Wish I Had an Angel forgot one '"' at the end.
  • avoid beginnings This is the done
  • a symphonic metal band from Finland why not just a finnish symphonic metal band?done
  • Although Nightwish has been prominent in their home country since the release of their first single delink singles.done If i understood correctly
    • No you must delink it, singles -> singles
  • one million copies,[2] no need to add refs, because you did it down under.done
  • which has sold almost two million copies.[6] again.done
  • A new E.P./live album, Made in Hong Kong (And in Various Other Places) a live album and EP together?done Yes, it's an Ep (as you should know, too big to be an single and too small to be an album), but with all the tracks record live during the Dark Passion Play World Tour, from 2007 to 2009.
  • Explain how you know that a few singles are promo singles?done I can't, erased information
    • well, then "erase" promo, or find a reliable sourcedone
  • Demo albums section: avoid multiple linking: Members: Tarja Turunen, Tuomas Holopainen and Emppu Vuorinen.done
  • HOL means "Holland" and is a region in the Netherlands. So write "NLD" or "NED".done
  • Why did you add a track length column in the Music videos section? done Only an extra information, necessary in my opinion
  • Sami Käyhkö citation needed.done
  • Chart columns: You didn't add the "work", the publisher are wrong (AUT: Hung Medien, FIN: Hung Medien, FRA: Hung Medien, GER: Phononet, GRE: Hung Medien, SWE: Hung Medien, NOR: Hung Medien, UK: everyhit.com and I suggest you to replace HUN with another chart, for example SWI), and I don't understand why you added an external link in the publisher parameter? done
  • The titles are false in the references. done

I will add more comments, if I find any. Please have a look at discogs like Miles Davis discography or Santana discography. -- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 13:39, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

• Studio albums and Extended Plays section: you can use the {{Ref label}} template instead of normal bulleted list.
• Mege the year column in the row Bestwishes and Highest Hopes: The Best of Nightwish, the same in the Soundtrack section, between "Nemo" and "I Wish I Hhad an Angel"done
• "Kuolema tekee taiteilijan" should be capitalicizeddone.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 17:35, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Please don't write {{done}} if you haven't do that. And you must write, let's say 4×Platinum, an not 4 times Platinum.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 21:08, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

• Avoid adding certs that aren't in the chart column, for example Poland, there are no Poland chart.

Yes, cause only Dark Passion Play charted in Poland, and we only can add ten charts.

That's right, so delete this certs, that are not charts, for example Poland or Switzerland.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 10:04, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

More comments tomorrow. Goodbye.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 22:22, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

• Oppose for now: For some reason I was contacted on my talk page about this article, but looking through it now, it really doesn't blow me away.
• The way you refer to the official website in references is inconsistent. I don't mind, apart from the fact it does not need to be capitalised (other than "Nightwish"), and nor does it need to be in italics.
• Are we certain all of these sources are reliable? Few of them are the usual kinds of sources (newspapers, industry magazines).
  • TheTableWorld.com?
  • Spinefarm.fi?
  • SoundTrack.net?
  • Hung Medien?
  • PhonoNet?
  • Mahasz?
  • Everyhit.com?
  • Ifpi.fi?
  • Ifpi.se?
    • Hung Medien, PhonoNet, Mahasz and all IFPIs are reliable, per WP:GOODCHARTS.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 10:07, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
• I could go on... http://www.metalfromfinland.com/news/2007-08-10_15:37/nightwish_end_of_an_era_dvd_certified_gold_in_switzerland is probably the most suspicious one, but it is in turn sourced to Blabbermouth. Could we just cut out the middle man?
• Roadrunner is referred to inconsistently in the references, and a wikilink would be good. Also, the stuff on Blabbermouth.net should be, y'know, attributed to BM.
• First line- "finnish".
• Title of "Erämaan Viimeinen" does not match the article

Needs tidying up in places, but, until I'm shown otherwise, too many of those sources look questionable... J Milburn (talk) 01:10, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

• Comment - the article currently claims that "Nemo" got to number 15 on the UK Singles Chart, this is completely untrue. If you check the source, you will see that it says it got to number 15 on the British Top 40 Rock Singles chart, a completely different (and incredibly minor) chart. -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:18, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Comment Rodrigo15, I think it would be wise to withdraw the nomination and deal with these comments outside the FLC process. I'm sure the editors who have contributed comments would be happy to help you en route to a renomination? The Rambling Man (talk) 17:43, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

More comments from J Milburn-

• The way the official website is referred to is inconsistent, should not be italicised and should not feature random capitals.
• Allmusic should not be italicised (and wikilinks wouldn't hurt). Allmusic is referred to inconsistently in the refs.
• Random caps in the ext link section.
• Don't like the ""*" director is unknown or can't be found." thing. There is no director, as you note in your footnote.
• "Made in Hong Kong is also listed here because it's an EP with live tracks; so it's an EP and a live album" ?! I'd go with listing it as a "live album", but if you're going to include it in both places, that note is hardly the best way to explain it.
• Studio album table there are no sales thresholds listed, and the worldwide sales are not a certification.
• "American tour.[1][1]"

This is still feeling a way off featured quality, but at least the sourcing is looking a little better. The overreliance on the official site is less than ideal... J Milburn (talk) 21:42, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

• Suggest closure - article has not been edited for over a week, many outstanding points which clearly aren't being addressed -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 21:31, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

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