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Suffolk Wildlife Trust[edit]

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Nominator(s): Dudley Miles (talk) 14:03, 17 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This is the latest in my nominations of wildlife trusts. It follows the format of FLs Essex Wildlife Trust and the Wildlife Trust for Bedfordshire, Cambridgeshire and Northamptonshire, and I believe that it also meets the criteria. Dudley Miles (talk) 14:03, 17 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Using your other lists for reference, I think you have a featured list right here! The only thing I see is remove the space between the period and ref 73. Honestly other than that I have nothing. Fantastic job!

Comments from Harrias talk
  • "and it manages 3,120-hectare (7,700-acre) of land" – Should be "hectares" and "acres" surely?
  • "1 contains a Scheduled Monuments" – Should not be plural.
  • It might be worth splitting that list in the last paragraph up. It is particularly confusing when commas stop denoting another item in the list, and instead explain an item (1 is in the Dedham Vale, an Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty (AONB)).
  • Done. (Also changed numbers from figures to text to avoid having "1" at the beginning of a sentence.) Dudley Miles (talk) 17:48, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • On my screen there is whitespace above the key because of the way the column formatting clashes with the image and the kml template.
  • I am not sure how to deal with this as it is not a problem on my screen. Can you advise? Dudley Miles (talk) 17:48, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Is "N/Av" meant to signify "not available"?
  • "This three mile long stretch.." – Needs a convert template.
  • Is there a link we can use for "fen meadow"?
  • "..and rides have many species of butterfly." – What are rides?
  • Rides are avenues for horse riders. Linked to bridal path.
  • "The site has fen, freshwater dykes and grazing marshes." – Could do with some wikilinks.
  • "..calcareous clay and neutral grassland." – Again, could do with links to explain what they are.
  • Linked calcareous. "Neutral grassland" is a bit of a problem. I think it is a term used by Natural England for land which is neutral between acid and alkaline, but there does not seem to be a good explanation on Wikipedia. It is also called mesotrophic grassland, so I have linked to mesotrophic.
  • What are "oak pollards"?
  • Pollarding is the removal of upper branches. I have linked to it.
  • Ref #3 and ref #15 use YYYY-MM-DD format for archiving rather than the DD Month YYYY used elsewhere.
  • Refs #10, #59, #98, #114, #129 and #138 need full-stops at the end.
  • Refs #98 and #129 need to be formatted similarly to #10 and #59.

Harrias talk 15:38, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Harrias Many thanks for your thorough review. Dudley Miles (talk) 17:48, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 12:27, 1 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Link "county's" to Suffolk (you don't appear to have linked the county at all....)
  • Linked in the second paragraph. I don't think linking "county" would be helpful, and "Suffolk" in the first paragraph is in a quotation. Dudley Miles (talk) 12:16, 1 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • "covering the UK." I would prefer you expand UK here.
  • "13,200 members" okay, this could be deemed ultra-picky, but it's a charity, and then you say it has members, could you bridge that gap? Members who pay subscriptions to allow them to freely visit the sites under SWT's control/make donations/ i.e. what is a member, just a donor?
  • So far as I know a member is just a donor, although some other WTs do have sites only open to members. I think this would be better dealt with in the article on The Wildlife Trusts. Dudley Miles (talk) 12:16, 1 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Use non-breaking space between 3.9 and million.
  • "At the top level " any need for "At"?
  • Lead image caption is a complete sentence so needs a full stop.
  • "3-mile (4.8-kilometre) long stretch" not sure you need "long"...
  • You link heather but not orchid, is there a method behind this
  • Heather links to the Latin name for the species. Orchid is just a common word. Dudley Miles (talk) 12:16, 1 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • You don't link "coppiced wood" but you do link "coppicing"... I'd be consistent.
  • You link Fen meadow but not wet meadow?
  • Wet meadow is a common phrase. Fen meadow is a type of wet meadow. Dudley Miles (talk) 12:16, 1 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • "dykes" is a dab page.
  • "NNR,[81][33]" numerical order for refs please.
  • "Over 140 bird species" -> More than.
  • "SAC[94][95] SSSI[117]" missing a comma.
  • Is there an appropriate link for Sandlings Heaths?
  • I cannot find one but I have added an efn note explaining that they are coastal heaths in Suffolk.
  • Ref 109 probably should use an en-dash, not a hyphen.
  • Check others, e.g. 11, 79.
  • Done - but I thought the en-dash script was supposed to deal with this? Dudley Miles (talk) 12:16, 1 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Otherwise great work as usual. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:40, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your thorough review TRM. Dudley Miles (talk) 12:16, 1 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Rodw

Most of the things I might have spotted seem to have already been identified and addressed.

  • In the lead would it be useful to readers to mention it is in East Anglia?
  • I'm sure we have discussed the capitalisation of Scheduled Monument v Scheduled monument before but I can't remember your rationale.
  • I'm not sure of the grammar/punctuation of "...and three are Local Nature Reserves. One is in Dedham Vale,..." I think you mean Dedham Vale is one of the 3 LNRs but that full stop makes it unclear.
    I meant one SWT reserve is in Dedham Vale. Clarified. Dudley Miles (talk) 14:47, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • You have Alde Mudflats listed as no public access - I thought any inter-tidal areas in the UK were accessible (owned by the queen or something)?
  • I have never heard that. SWT says that there is no public access and a web search shows other inter-tidal sites which have no public access. SWT suggests looking with binoculars from a footpath, which may mean a high wall or steep cliff with no way down. Dudley Miles (talk) 14:47, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • OK thanks for checking. Perhaps ownership of anything between high and low tide can not be "owned" and therefore closed to the public, but I suppose it doesn't mean you can actually get to it.— Rod talk 15:10, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No other issues I can spot at present.— Rod talk 09:56, 2 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I can now Support this list as meeting the criteria.— Rod talk 15:10, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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