Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Sylvester Medal

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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by User:Scorpion0422 23:48, 20 December 2008 [1].

Sylvester Medal[edit]

Another Royal Society Medal.Ironholds (talk) 13:24, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • Sources looks good, checked with the Checklinks tool.
  • The article is still a stub? Why has a {{math-stub}} at the bottom of the page? Cannibaloki 14:57, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Crud, sorry; the silly shit I miss. A leftover from the previous version I'm assuming, although I don't know why that would've been considered a stub.Ironholds (talk) 15:04, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Very impressive work! Ecoleetage (talk) 23:25, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong support per my comments at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Royal Medal, of which the suggestions aren't applicable to this list but the support most certainly is. Daniel (talk) 01:05, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 04:50, 19 December 2008 (UTC) [reply]
Resolved issues, Dabomb87 (talk)

Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)

  • The lead is a bit on the short side. Perhaps add some info about notable winners of the Medal, any records, etc. This could be done on your other medal lists too.
  • All three images need sources and/or authors. Image captions do not need full stops unless they are complete sentences.
  • Sources need publishers added. Dabomb87 (talk) 16:38, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    What do you mean by "image sources and/or authors"? Ironholds (talk) 17:31, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    The three images need source information and the authors (who took the picture). See Commons:First steps/Quality and description for more info. Dabomb87 (talk) 17:47, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Surely those would already be at the Image: locations, not something to be concerned about on the page proper. I didn't upload the images, and as such that isn't information I can provide.Ironholds (talk) 18:21, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict) Well, meeting "the requirements for all Wikipedia content" certainly includes meeting image use requirements. Contact David Fuchs if you need more image help. Dabomb87 (talk) 18:31, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Done so. I saw a lot of "Dabomb87 says I should talk to you about this featured thing.." messages while I was there, haha. Ironholds (talk) 18:36, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Yeah, I am pretty sure Fuchs wishes for me to die a slow, painful death for all this work I've caused him :D Dabomb87 (talk) 18:39, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Alright, info added (nationalties of winners, for example). Info on noted winners is already included on the right, and to be honest all of them are pretty notable. Ironholds (talk) 18:30, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Yikes, Fuchs is ill now. Might want to find someone else. I will look. Dabomb87 (talk) 18:40, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Okies; awaiting your findings. Ironholds (talk) 19:35, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Um, User:Awadewit seems to be well again, but she has a million other things to do, and may not be able to attend to these issues within the time constraints of an FLC. Alternatively, you could try Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. Dabomb87 (talk) 21:41, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Images removed (per the same reasoning as with the Royal Medal article) and I've added some info on the recipients. Ironholds (talk) 02:44, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: Lists should be in chronological order, per WP:SAL/WP:LIST. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 08:44, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    It is in chronological order. WP:LIST doesn't actually mention it, so that is probably a bad place to link to; it simply mentions that lists should be ordered, and an example of this would be a chronological system. Ironholds (talk) 15:08, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Ugh, last time I was there it said the same as SAL, which I should have clarified on. "Chronological lists, including all timelines and lists of works, should be in earliest-to-latest chronological order." Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 16:39, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Reversed. Gary King (talk) 20:05, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's not a requirement for FL, but are there any WikiProjects the page falls under the scope of? Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 06:31, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • well Wikipedia:WikiProject Science and variants comes to mind.. Ironholds (talk) 08:18, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from The Rambling Man on tour (talk · contribs)
  • Call me old-fashioned, but in the UK we generally say that things are named after other things, not named for them... so the caption (in my mind) should say "James Joseph Sylvester, after whom the award is named"...
  • "The Sylvester Medal is a bronze medal awarded by the Royal Society for the encouragement of mathematical research and accompanied by a £1,000 prize" - the "and accompanied.." run-on reads oddly to me after the "encouragement" bit. I'd split it in two.
  • The Wikipedia article seems to capitalise Savilian Professor of Geometry.
  • "the Royal Society have announced that it will henceforth be awarded every two years instead,..." - this reads like current affairs - put a timeframe on it - when did the RS announce this?
  • "...and 2 to citizens ..." - I know the previous values were numeric but this would look a lot better as "...and two to citizens..."
  • Any reason why the nationality isn't in the table since you talk about it in the lead? I think that WP:LEAD mentions something about not introducing info in the lead section without going into it in more detail in the main article doesn't it?
  • Is it worth mentioning in the lead that so few women (i.e. one?!) have received the medal?

Minor points in general, an excellent list. The Rambling Man on tour (talk) 05:46, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • All done except the nationality; I guess I'll create a new column and stick that in. As my people say, "oy vey". Ironholds (talk) 08:30, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    "Oy vey" indeed. I'm happy to support the list's promotion asuming these minor issues are dealt with! Good stuff. The Rambling Man on tour (talk) 11:19, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Everything is dealt with minus the "subject" linking/delinking and the nationality column, which I assure you I will get on to this evening. Ironholds (talk) 12:04, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Alrighty then, all concerns addressed. Ironholds (talk) 14:25, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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