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Heraldic visitation[edit]

This was recently upgraded to a Good Article, and I think that it can be an FA with a bit more work. I wasn't the main contributor to the article, but would be glad to implement any suggestions that others have. It is a unique and interesting topic that is not covered very broadly elsewhere on the internet.--dave-- 13:37, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The article is generally short compared to most FA articles, but the long thing is typically frowned upon.. and as I'm not familiar with Heraldic visitation, I wouldn't know how to expand this article. The one thing I can see is that it probably needs another image. drumguy8800 C T 17:08, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a map showing the numbers of visitations per county. --Dr pda 14:26, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A few more sources would be nice to back up the facts. Another picture would be good. It would also be good to flesh out the national differences in visitations. 21:41, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
It might be nice to have a table listing all the counties, the dates they were visited, and possibly by whom. I've seen such a list somewhere while looking for info for other articles, possibly in Noble's History of the College of Arms or an old edition of Burke's Peerage. A mention of the fact that Clarenceux King of Arms has heraldic jurisdiction south of the river Trent, and Norroy King of Arms north of it would probably be worthwhile. Also, wasn't there someone (a herald-painter?) who pretended to be a herald carrying out visitations? Are there any well-known examples of people who were using arms unlawfully? Dr pda 00:10, 18 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The list of counties, etc. might make the article too long. There were a lot of visitations, weren't there. It would be good to quote evidence of a case where arms were defaced during a visitation. How was the power to visit enforced?--Forlornandshorn 18:40, 18 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've found the list I was thinking of, it was in the 1937 edition of Burke's Landed Gentry. A quick count reveals there were about 150 visitations, which would indeed be too long for a table in the article. Maybe it would be better as a List of English heraldic visitations which could be linked to the article. I'll need to find a PD source though as simply copying the list from Burke's would be a copyvio. Dr pda 00:17, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It would be interesting to know from the visitations what houses have blended / assimilated other houses and what are the current representations of the 'say - early' visitations. For example, was a coat of arms awarded to a house known for being an excellent brewer? If so, is the current representation of that coat of arms one of the fine beers we enjoy today ? Dharp66 22:27, 18 October 2006 (UTC)Dharp[reply]
Please see automated peer review suggestions here. Ruhrfisch 03:51, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]