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List of Gillingham F.C. players[edit]

Obviously I realise there are still quite a few redlinks on this list (33 as I write this, I believe), but I'm working my way through creating those articles. In the meantime I thought I'd bring this article to PR to see if there's anything else I need to do to get it to FL status.......

Cheers,

ChrisTheDude 09:42, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • This'll be why you were asking about pre-1960s positions then. Is there some missing information preventing you from including cup appearances too? Nothing else stands out as being amiss. A strict grammarian might dislike the use of "whilst", several style guides (or at least the Guardian one I use) discourage it. Oldelpaso 14:51, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • I didn't include cup data because Neil Brown's site doesn't include it and neither does Roger Triggs' book (Soccerbase does but this is obviously only any good for players in the last decade or so). I've just taken out a one-month subscriptions to allfootballers.com, which does include cup data, so if I have time I will rejig the page to include it..... ChrisTheDude 14:59, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Actually there is some info I can't obtain - whilst while allfootballers.com does list cup appearances, it only does so for the seasons during which the Gills were in the Football League. Some players on the list, such as Jock Robertson, also played for the club while they were in the Southern League and Kent League, and, whilst I could justify leaving out their matches in these competitions due to them being at a non-league level, they probably also played in some FA Cup matches during that time, but allfootballers does not record these, nor does any other source I can find. Therefore, to avoid including data which I can't guarantee to be 100% complete, I'd prefer to restrict it to league stats only........ ChrisTheDude 19:31, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from The Rambling Man (talk · contribs)

Hey, nice work so far. A couple of comments...

  • Personal preference but I'd prefer the names and nationalities left justified, as in List of Aston Villa F.C. players. Just looks a bit neater.
  • I'm no expert but when using the {{Cite book}} template repeatedly for the same book I don't think it's necessary to add all the information such as ISBN, etc.
  • Consider adding club record holders as a categorisation within the table, e.g. most appearances, top goal scorer, most international caps whilst while at the club etc..
  • I'm curious why a select few player's records have citations. Do you intend to add a citation for them all, or would it be simpler and neater to reference the book only?

But otherwise it's nearly up there with the FLs... The Rambling Man 08:49, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • "I'm curious why a select few player's records have citations. Do you intend to add a citation for them all, or would it be simpler and neater to reference the book only?" - I used Neil Brown's site (which is ref'd in the column heading itself) as my primary reference for a couple of reasons - firstly it's online, so anyone can check it to confirm the numbers, and secondly it shows all the club's players since 1950 on one list, so people can see that I haven't missed anyone out. However, it doesn't include any pre-WWII players, which is why I have referenced them separately using the book. Would it be better, IYO, to reference everyone's apps/goals from the book but include the site as an "external link"? ChrisTheDude 08:55, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Probably, that's what I'd do. I understand now why you've done it but it just appears a little odd to have citations for just some. I'd leave the citation in the heading and remove the others, but it's a drastic move so I'd look for some consensus before just going on my opinion! The Rambling Man 08:58, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Actually, thinking about it, I'd still need to reference certain players separately, as the book only goes up to 2001. So maybe it would be best to simply reference each line separately..... ChrisTheDude 09:02, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Perhaps then it's nice to add a "Notes" column for the citations rather than place them next to the stats themselves. The Rambling Man 09:08, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, that's what I'd do if I referenced each line separately. I'll get on to that later. Cheers for all your input! ChrisTheDude 09:09, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Of course, as always, you're welcome! The Rambling Man 09:11, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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