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Cross Project Work[edit]
Hello India Editors! Editors over at the WikiProject Unreferenced Articles are discussing working with other WikiProjects to tackle their backlog. This might take the form of a backlog drive or building up a shared resource to find reliable sources. We'd like you to be involved in the discussion because India was identified as being a topic with a large number of articles lacking references - please join the discussion here. -- D'n'B-t -- 06:47, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
Concern about inflammatory content[edit]
If you visit the page on the Oudh State and look at the section labeled Shuja-ud-Daula, you will see an extensive section of text referring specifically to the activities of the eunuch Jawahir Ali Khan. This same text appears verbatim on the Slavery in India page under the section Twelver Shia Turkic ruled Oudh state. My concern is manifold: one, obviously content should never appear on two separate pages, so this must be remedied. I do not know which page it makes more sense on, for the way in which it is currently integrated is both sloppy and badly written. It appears to be well-sourced, but the language used by the author seems to be purposely inflammatory and anti-muslim. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but if someone could take a look, and let me know what we should do, if anything, I would greatly appreciate it. Evansknight (talk) 14:32, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- It looks like the content was added by a now-banned sockpuppet account, what is the policy in dealing with content added by a banned user? Evansknight (talk) 14:38, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
See WP:BANREVERT and WP:SOCKSTRIKE. You are free to revert any edits made by a banned socking editor regardless of their merit. Ratnahastin (talk) 15:21, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:2024 Indian Premier League#Requested move 10 May 2024[edit]
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:2024 Indian Premier League#Requested move 10 May 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vestrian24Bio (U • T • A • C • S) 03:23, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
Wikiproject WPL notice[edit]
Hi! A separate Wikiproject for Women's Premier League (cricket) has been proposed. For it to be established a minimum number editors are needed to show their support to the Wikiproject. Interested editors please add your name here to show your support. Thanks!
See the Wikiproject draft here. You can also invite others by placing {{subst:User:Vestrian24Bio/Wikiproject Women's Premier League (cricket)/Invitation}} in their talk page. Regards! Vestrian24Bio (U • T • A • C • S) 05:48, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
Starting this July, we will see a new contest on the scene - the Developing Countries WikiContest (WP:DCWC)! Think of it as a WikiCup but only for articles and media on developing countries.
Competitors may submit GAs, GTs, FAs, FTs, FLs, FPs, and DYK and ITN entries from/on developing countries to gain points and proceed to further rounds. Points are also awarded to those who review GAs, FAs and FLs.
India is listed as a developing country for the purposes of this contest, so I encourage everyone here to sign up and compete with editors from around the world to create high-quality content!
Append your name to the DCWC signup page today!
Best wishes, Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI (talk to me!/my edits) 04:21, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Pallar#Requested move 16 May 2024[edit]
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Pallar#Requested move 16 May 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. – robertsky (talk) 20:21, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
Caste category[edit]
Do we keep caste categories like Category:Jat_politicians_from_Rajasthan? It was created yesterday. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:51, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- Should be nominated for deletion. Wikipedia does not categorise people by caste. Ratnahastin (talk) 11:57, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- I'm divided on caste categories in general. On one hand, it's sorta comparable to all the categories on African-American people, and no one would dream of deleting, say, Category:African-American actors. OTOH, caste categories would be full of pointless fights and a total nightmare to maintain, plus caste isn't inflexible in the way race is. In any case caste + occupation + location is way too narrow (and, as I said, a huge timesink), and so I think it should be deleted as well. Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI (talk to me!/my edits) 11:45, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- We already have ethnolinguistic, regional and religion-al cats. An extra cat on occupation based lineage is unnecessary. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:30, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
Request for help in Editing a new article by an inexperienced member[edit]
I humbly request the kind assistance of the team in editing the article on Shri T. Aliba Imti. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft%3AT._Aliba_Imti&oldid=prev&diff=1198574337
Thank you Wallpattern (talk) 05:49, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- I've filled up the bare urls,and now it has been moved to the mainspace by Usedtobecool .Ratnahastin (talk) 07:05, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
This article needs help (I had to remove a lot of cruft), and I am not familiar enough with the topic to fix it. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 05:10, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
Are magazine, newspaper articles exempt from WP:NOINDICSCRIPT?[edit]
Are magazine, newspaper articles exempt from the WP:NOINDICSCRIPT policy? Note this change and the short t/p discussion here. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:33, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Fylindfotberserk: WP:NOINDICSCRIPTS states
"This avoidance of Indic scripts only applies to articles that are predominantly India-related and is excluded from, among others, articles about Hinduism, Buddhism, or any of India's neighbouring countries."
, so long the newspaper or magazine is related to India, use of Indic scripts on those articles would be forbidden. Hindustan (newspaper) is an Indian newspaper and mostly circulated in India, so I don't think the use of Indic scripts would be appropriate here. Ratnahastin (talk) 13:21, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
Indian PM Counting[edit]
Narendra Modi is the 15th Prime minister of India and not 14th, This is a major error in this article, Please do correct it. Naageshwarg (talk) 17:19, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Naageshwarg, Please cite reliable source to back your edit. GrabUp - Talk 17:20, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- Here's the Proof/Reference:
- This information is from (pmindia.gov.in) AND
- https://indianembassynetherlands.gov.in/news_detail/?newsid=52 Naageshwarg (talk) 17:52, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Naageshwarg: It is the official website of the Embassy of the Netherlands. I think they made a mistake. You can see the all PM list here to check that he is the 14th PM. Also, keep in mind that Wikipedia is based on Secondary sources. GrabUp - Talk 18:04, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- I'm sorry to inform you that you guys made a mistake, Here's the official website of Indian Prime minister and see what they have mentioned, So I request you to kindly change it. https://www.pmindia.gov.in/en/news_updates/shri-narendra-modi-assumes-office-as-15th-prime-minister-of-india/
- Also, In the link you sent, PM.Gulzarilal Nanda wasn' counted as a prime minister.
- Kindly change it or should I ask it directly to the PM?
- Many students are affected by your mistake. Naageshwarg (talk) 18:15, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Naageshwarg: The Indian PM can't really do anything here, nor is he free to do so. Wikipedia is independent from the government. Thanks for letting us know about this; I am informing an admin.
- @RegentsPark: What do you say? If this is true, then we are really making a big mistake! Although Gulzarilal Nanda was PM, it was only for 13 days, serving as acting PM after the death of Jawaharlal Nehru. GrabUp - Talk 18:38, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- Gulzarilal is in the list but is not counted as PM. GrabUp - Talk 18:42, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- As I can see, the Indian government officially states that Manmohan Singh was the 14th Prime Minister, not Modi.
- GrabUp - Talk 18:49, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- @GrabupThank you for your support and understanding, Hope you edit the article as soon as possible!!
- For further clarification, Here's the proofs that Gulzarilal Nanda was the 2nd prime minister:
- https://indianexpress.com/article/political-pulse/gulzari-lal-nanda-second-short-serving-prime-minister-7924421/
- https://www.india.com/photos/news/prime-ministers-of-india-since-independence-294419/jawaharlal-nehru-1947-1964-294426/ Naageshwarg (talk) 05:09, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Naageshwarg: It is the official website of the Embassy of the Netherlands. I think they made a mistake. You can see the all PM list here to check that he is the 14th PM. Also, keep in mind that Wikipedia is based on Secondary sources. GrabUp - Talk 18:04, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- Our article says Nanda was 'interim' PM. I suggest asking for input at WP:WikiProject India, and it might be worth creating an FAQ once there's some consensus on how to count PMs of India. Surely some academic somewhere is discussing it. Valereee (talk) 16:22, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- The main concerning thing to me is that the user said, “Many students are affected by your mistake.” How can we be so wrong? I also think there should be a discussion and consensus regarding this. Without consensus, this significant change can’t be added to Wikipedia. Or maybe I am wrong. GrabUp - Talk 16:44, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- I don't have a personal opinion here other than that we should be consistent across all our articles. This has been a persistent problem, created by Nanda's time as acting prime Minister. Someone should probably dig through what "official" sources say, and I don't have the time. Vanamonde93 (talk) 17:01, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Here are the official sources mentioned above by the user:
- ——
- All official government sources say that Modi is the 15th PM and the 14th PM was Manmohan Singh. We should reach a clear consensus (if there isn't one already) as June 4 is very near, and India may see a new PM. GrabUp - Talk 17:10, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Are any academic sources not calling Nanda a PM? I'd say if all official government sources are counting Nanda as a PM and academics are not disagreeing, we should too. It may be worth settling on wording...'Modi is according to official government sources the 15th PM; some non-official sources consider him the 14th because interim PM Nanda was in office for less than two weeks' or whatever. Then edit other articles as appropriate and place a FAQ or pinned post where needed. Valereee (talk) 17:21, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Every source calls him PM, or mainly Interim PM. The main issue is whether we should count him as a PM or not. This is what is causing the whole problem. GrabUp - Talk 17:29, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- This is exactly what we need, If you just mention he is the 14th prime minister, Students would blindly conclude that he is the 14th prime minister but if you mention as 'Modi is according to official government sources the 15th PM; some non-official sources consider him the 14th because interim PM Nanda was in office for less than two weeks' they would research more and conclude according, Also In my opinion the official sources are primary and the non-official sources are secondary, If you just let the readers know about this, It's obviously fine. Also after June 4, There will be the same confusion, So I request you to discuss and edit as soon as possible. Naageshwarg (talk) 17:40, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Are any academic sources not calling Nanda a PM? I'd say if all official government sources are counting Nanda as a PM and academics are not disagreeing, we should too. It may be worth settling on wording...'Modi is according to official government sources the 15th PM; some non-official sources consider him the 14th because interim PM Nanda was in office for less than two weeks' or whatever. Then edit other articles as appropriate and place a FAQ or pinned post where needed. Valereee (talk) 17:21, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- For the PMIndia website, he is the 15th. The Gulzarilal Nanda page is pretty clear. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 17:25, 28 May 2024 (UTC)