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Jorge Simes[edit]

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No indication of notoriety per either WP:GNG or WP:NARTIST. I couldn't independently find awards or significant coverage by specialized, independent sources. Rkieferbaum (talk) 22:23, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Makoma Mohale[edit]

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Check notability by WP:GNGACTOR Claggy (talk) 22:18, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Miss Cosmo International 2024[edit]

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Doesn't meet WP:EVENT Claggy (talk) 22:06, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Peterson Electro-Musical Products[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NORG Once you take out the primary sources (source 1 and 2), you are left with 3 sources used for brief statements. source 3 is a product review thus not SIGCOV, 4 is a product listing thus not RS, source 5 is an ad in a magazine, thus fails RS. A search for sources turned up a mix of product sites, database entries, Social Media and other Primary sources. Prod objected to on the basis that: " longstanding, well-developed article deserves additional review" Lavalizard101 (talk) 22:03, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep It seems that the article is poorly written and sourced, rather than it failing the "general notability guideline". I ran a quick search and found three sources quite early on, that seem reliable, that discuss the company or founder: https://www.thediapason.com/news/peterson-electro-musical-products-celebrates-75-years https://www.premierguitar.com/peterson-electro-musical-products-inc-mourns-the-passing-of-founder https://www.guitarworld.com/news/peterson-electro-musical-products-inc-mourns-passing-founder I suspect that if if you were to search for the products listed in each of the latter paragraphs, you would find them reviewed and discussed in the appropriate trade magazine. Warren L.T. Peace (talk) 22:14, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pidge (Voltron)[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG no sigcov outside of listicles and primary sources. There is one seemingly good source from the Mary Sue but I don't think that's enough. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 22:02, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Morakot Sriswasdi[edit]

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Ambassadors are not inherently notable. Appears to fail WP:GNG. Uhooep (talk) 09:55, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge It might be more relevant to create a section for Thai ambassadors in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Foreign_Affairs_(Thailand)

Individual ambassadors might not merit a stand alone page.

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Redirect to Ministry of Foreign Affairs (Thailand) per nomination. Clara A. Djalim (talk) 10:36, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- The merge suggestion was made by the first commenter, not the nominator. --Paul_012 (talk) 05:55, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect. Does not meet the notability criteria. --TadejM ^{my talk} 12:53, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment I'm not sure why we would redirect to Ministry of Foreign Affairs (Thailand). If there is no "List of Thai Ambassadors to Laos" or "List of Thai Ambassadors to Austria" then I would just delete without any redirect needed. Uhooep (talk) 17:53, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

- Comment Agreed. --TadejM ^{my talk} 09:35, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Don't merge/redirect. Not mentioned at target, and it wouldn't be appropriate to do so. --Paul_012 (talk) 05:55, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: There are plenty of news mentions, but virtually all of it is in the context of her official capacity. She was featured in The Cloud's "Talk With Ambassadors" podcast[1], but that's also mostly about her work. --Paul_012 (talk) 03:16, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Dance of the Vampires (disambiguation)[edit]

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Disambiguation page not required (WP:ONEOTHER). Primary topic redirect points to an article with a hatnote to the only other use. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:21, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Support clear-cut case, surprised it survived PROD. PatGallacher (talk) 14:40, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Second usage added. CapnZapp (talk) 16:30, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep 3 valid entries. There might be additional entries too. Boleyn (talk) 17:00, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Devarishi Dasa Asamoah[edit]

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There is no significant coverage in reliable sources. The first source was published by a contributor on a site that doesn't appear reliable. The second and third sources are practically identical, providing nothing about the subject beyond a name drop. This fails to meet the criteria of WP:GNG and WP:NBIO imo. GSS ^💬 15:11, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The sources used are to establish the subject as a spiritual leader of Hare Krsna Movement in Ghana. Most of the stub centers around this. As the author of this stub, I do not have access to any information on anything else other than this. It may be a little short for a biography, but the beauty of Wikipedia is that another contributor may carry on the work that has been started. Heatrave (talk) 17:13, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete for the reasons stated by the nominator. BoyTheKingCanDance (talk) 15:57, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kaafir (Pakistani TV series)[edit]

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I couldn't find sign/in-depth coverage, such as reviews. All I could find is some ROTM coverage like this, this and this. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 15:11, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: could be reasonably redirected to the page about the director if the one-paragraph appraisal im Dawn Humayun Saeed’s negative role in Kaafir actually made one feel disgusted by his character. This drama proved how his star quality and ability to reach to the audience never fails. The good vs. evil; directed by Shahid Shafaat gave us the story Shahan Ali Khan (Humayun Saeed) who is living a dual life; in front of his family he pretended to be virtuous but resorted to his evil and malicious side when away from them. The twists were woven captivatingly into the narrative although the play did go a little over board with its bold dialogues and settings. and this review (https://www.thequint.com/entertainment/hot-on-web/zee-5-kaafir-dia-mirza-mohit-raina) for example are not judged sufficient. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 13:30, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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HE Higher Education Ranking[edit]

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Contested PROD. Article currently has no sources that would meet WP:GNG. Most are sourced to the universities themselves, so are not independent. Same goes with the first and last citation, to the article subject. There are also two cites to books published by IGI global, a vanity press listed on Beall's list, which are written by an employee at HE, so are not independent. I haven't found any usable while searching, though false positives with THE made it a bit difficult. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 16:02, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. The article is full of puffery. It is entirely based on what the group claims itself to be (and meaningless university press releases), because there are no other sources. Walsh90210 (talk) 16:19, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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RX Telescopii[edit]

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This star fails the the notability test, including the criteria for astronomical objects. 1. It is not visible to the naked eye (the cutoff was set at 6.0), 2. it is not in any high-importance catalog (see the RX Telescopii page on SIMBAD), 3. it was never the subject of non-trivial works and 4. it was not discovered before 1850. SIMBAD cites 21 references for this star, but they are only large catalogs that cite hundreds to millions of objects. In 2020, it was thought to be the largest known star at a radius of ≈1900 R_☉, but it used a highly inaccurate distance and newer estimates give radii of 300 or 800 R_☉.

Although this is a deletion discussion, I suggest merging into List of stars in Telescopium, for saving page history. Deletion discussions generally have a larger participation than merge discussions and hence a more well-defined consensus. InTheAstronomy32 (talk) 18:05, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep I think the fact that it was considered one of the largest known stars is significant - the recalculating of it as a smaller object helps readers understand how scientists come to conclusions, realise they're incorrect with further information. The historical claim will be lost on any list page. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:02, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think this information can be added to the List of largest known stars article. I found another radius of 879 R_☉ using the angular diameter and a distance of 2189 parsecs, which is corrected for removing the excess of astrometric noise.[2]. Then, it can be added to the article. InTheAstronomy32 (talk) 19:37, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Problem is the star's latest and most accurate diameter means it is too small for the list unless slotted into the somwhat arbitrary "The following well-known stars are listed for the purpose of comparison." section. I'd prefer to keep the article as is where information is in one place. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:44, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Actually it is already in the list with a radius of 716 R_☉. I believe that these sizes of 716 and 872 R_☉ are more reliable than the 320 R_☉ from Gaia DR3, because they are consistent with the star's spectral type (Other stars with similar spectral types like Antares, Betelgeuse, RW Cygni, VV Cephei have similar sizes), and the Gaia's radius uses a spectrum-derived distance, but User:SpaceImplorerExplorerImplorer told that these spectra are generally of very low resolution (50×50px) and can lead to misleading values. InTheAstronomy32 (talk) 12:14, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of stars in Telescopium or List of largest known stars. There is very little substantial information published for "RX Tel"; hardly enough to satisfy WP:GNG. Praemonitus (talk) 12:51, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect or Delete. This is just another catalog object that has been WP:OR'd into what looks like something important but is really just a grab bag of catalog entries. - Parejkoj (talk) 15:47, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Danila Kashin[edit]

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Per WP:SINGLEEVENT. The remaining sources are news articles. Skepsiz (talk) 18:39, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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2024 zebra escape[edit]

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Declined PROD. Short-lived event that has, even a few weeks later, had no discernable lasting impact. Per WP:N(E), the depth and duration of non-local coverage is not sufficient to establish notability. Sounder Bruce 19:45, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, zero impact on anything, probable WP:SUSTAINED / WP:LASTING failure. Geschichte (talk) 21:01, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete per nom

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Delete Quintessential WP:NOTNEWS of a local event with no actual significance. Escapes of exotic animals are not particularly rare, even if their unusualness attracts some public attention. Reywas92^Talk 13:21, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, per previously raised points by above editors. Gottagotospace (talk) 22:46, 20 May 2024 (UTC) Keep: Changing my vote. Randy Kryn and Another Believer convinced me below. Gottagotospace (talk) 15:43, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, meets WP:GNG with coverage in the New York Times, The Guardian, and the Seattle coverage which covers a large regional area (not just local), but is it noteworthy? In the United States, yes, as a rarity. Maybe change the title to the name of the zebra who was on the loose for almost a week, Shug (zebra), which is what makes the topic notable (if all the zebras were quickly captured it wouldn't be, but the zebra wandering around for a week captured news coverage as well as the public's interest). Randy Kryn (talk) 15:03, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Zebras wandering around is funny and great for meme material, until it's time to move onto the next meme. I don't think that justifies having an article for it, especially because it wasn't widespread coverage. Gottagotospace (talk) 15:11, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Doesn't get much more widespread than BBC + The Guardian + Smithsonian, AP, CNN, etc etc ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:16, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, the coverage was widespread, so GNG is not a problem. In looking at other zebra articles this one stands out as being about individual zebras (Shug, the main focus of media coverage). Since Wikipedia coverage about individual zebras is low, then this article should be welcomed and lionized (lionized? run!). Randy Kryn (talk) 15:23, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gotcha, y'all changed my mind! Gottagotospace (talk) 15:41, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep (disclaimer: page creator), per GNG. Received international coverage, plenty of sources on the talk page to expand the page. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:20, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:NOTNEWS. Might well have been thrilling and got a lot of short-term news coverage (click bait), but it doesn't rate encyclopedia coverage. ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 16:52, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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New Capital Sports Hall[edit]

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Small sports stadium lacking in depth coverage in reliable independent sources. Mccapra (talk) 07:04, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep What do you mean with small sports? Handball is the second biggest team sport after football in the world. For your information the WC 2019 which was played in this hall hat at cumulative TV audience of 1.2 billion. Now to the hall if you google the Arabic name "الصالة الرياضية بالعاصمة الإدارية الجديدة" there are some stories like: [3], [4], [5], [6] 🤾‍♂️ Malo95 (talk) 09:07, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I mean that the hall itself is small, not that the sports it hosts are small. As to the sources you’ve provided above, none of them offers in depth coverage of this particular hall. They just confirm it exists, that it seats 7500-8000 people and it’s part of the larger Olympic complex. They are either about the handball matches or about the Olympic city. The sports complex as a whole looks notable and therefore potentially a redirect target, but it doesn’t seem to have been written yet. Mccapra (talk) 14:14, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, I think the sports hall is good enough with sourcing and notability to be kept here. While Arabic sources may not be the best, they do help fill the gap in sourcing. Old-AgedKid (talk) 10:26, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment, If the article stays, it should be on the proviso of improving it and adding a lot more to it. Shouldn't stay as 2 lines. MaskedSinger (talk) 05:28, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There isn’t really anything to add though, that’s the problem. It’s not an expandable stub. Mccapra (talk) 15:09, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

nothing at all? MaskedSinger (talk) 16:46, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Günther Janse van Vuuren[edit]

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. JTtheOG (talk) 20:44, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Division I FBS broadcasters[edit]

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. Just another case of WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to nobody but the small minority of the most ardent fans; another excessively bloated list that is fit for Fandom but is it encyclopaedic for here? The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Additionally WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:ROUTINE. Of the sources per WP:RS that is not a dead link; tem of those are WP:PRIMARY to teams, two of those are 404 and two are staff roster pages; two of those are about announcers and one leads to a home page. None of these are doing anything at all to help assert notability of lists like this nor have anything to with this list. All the others are unsourced. SpacedFarmer (talk) 07:14, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment radio is not TV.-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 03:33, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Golf Course News International[edit]

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Looking through the sources, I'm not finding any evidence of WP:SUSTAINED coverage of this apparently defunct publication. Basically all of the coverage of the publication revolves around its disastrous raunchy 2006 rebrand. The only mainstream source I can find covering the publication in any detail is an article in the Independent from 2006 covering the rebrand, along with a very brief article in Press Gazette covering a hiring decision the same year, with other coverage of the rebrand in the niche Golf Business News also in 2006. There's also a 2006 public statement by ex publication head Trevor Ledger in Pitchcare regarding the rebrand. Either way, even if these niche golf sources counted, it still wouldn't pass WP:SUSTAINED due to all the sources being from 2006. Hemiauchenia (talk) 20:16, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Billie Sparks[edit]

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Doesn't meet WP:NPOL and I don't see how it meets WP:GNG. I can't find any in-depth, indepdenent sources aside from this image.ie article. Clear friend a ^💬 19:32, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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78th Road[edit]

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Doesn't meet anything at WP:NROADS and there's nothing to show significant coverage in any reliable sources.

I am also nominating the following related pages for the same reason:

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Achievement motivation inventory[edit]

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Articles have multiple big issues with it. Starting with WP:NPOV as the article is holding a neutral point of view, becoming incomprehensible, and hanging from a thread. The article lacks incline citations per WP:IC AND, and it relies on a single source. There needs to be some sort of conversation about this article because I already WP:PROD it, but unfortunately, it got deleted. GoodHue291 (talk) 17:14, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ledo Hotel[edit]

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Article about a demolished hotel, not properly sourced as passing inclusion criteria. The referencing here is more than 50 per cent reference bombed to primary sources that aren't support for notability at all, such as photographs and directory entries and the self-published websites or Twitter feeds of entities named in the article. And even what there is for proper media coverage isn't building a particularly strong case for notability, as it's entirely local coverage either (a) focusing specifically on the site's place in the city's perennially changing arena-block redevelopment project rather than anything that would establish that it was ever actually noteworthy as a hotel, or (b) tangentially verifying other facts that have nothing whatsoever to do with the hotel, like the existence of the McEwen Architecture School and the farmer's market.
Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt this hotel from having to have a stronger notability claim than just having existed, or from having to have more than just "what is to be done to redevelop the land it used to be on?" for coverage. Bearcat (talk) 17:11, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Akiko Kitamura[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level does not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. Google search turns up nothing outside of wikis and scoring databases. Previous AFD received zero arguments in favor of keeping this article that cited any evidence of notability. Bgsu98 (Talk) 16:44, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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KESU-LP (Hanamaulu, Hawaii)[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG. Redirect unnecessary due to parenthetical disambiguation. Not mentioned at list of television stations in Hawaii, either. AusLondonder (talk) 16:30, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: At least in theory its status as one of the earliest channel 6 radio stations in the United States might have garnered it some coverage, but until/unless something more substantial surfaces this is a remnant of the far looser standards of 2007 and has no place in the Wikipedia of 2024. As the nominator points out, the disambiguator means there is no alternative to deletion beyond finding a way to meet GNG. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 18:06, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Land Conservancy of San Luis Obispo County[edit]

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Doesn't appear to meet WP:ORG / WP:GNG. Last AfD had low participation. Boleyn (talk) 16:18, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Chicago / Midwest Emmy Awards[edit]

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This doesn't appear to meet WP:N. Boleyn (talk) 16:13, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Jeevan TV[edit]

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It doesn't appear to meet WP:ORG / WP:GNG. 1st AfD was no consensus, low participation (2). Boleyn (talk) 16:08, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Education Facilitators[edit]

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Potentially ambiguous title. Doesn't appear to meet WP:ORG / WP:GNG. Unreferenced for 14 years. Boleyn (talk) 16:04, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Samsung U740 Alias[edit]

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Is this notable enough for a standalone article? Possible ATD is merge/redirect to Samsung, but I am not sure if this would be helpful, especially as this article is totally unreferenced. Boleyn (talk) 16:02, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Trump, Ohio[edit]

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Does not seem to have any significant coverage according to WP:NOTE ImTheAvidPheasant (talk) 15:45, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Daniel Ruiz II[edit]

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Chiefs of staff do not count as a political office for purposes of NPOL, and it doesn't seem like there is sufficient coverage to meet the standards of WP:BASIC unfortunately. Deprod by Clearfrienda, not sure which sources they were referring to, perhaps the AP? Alpha3031 (t • c) 15:42, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: In cases where there is some substantial coverage I usually object with PRODs in case there's a chance they can be kept. In this case, there's this local 12news.com article and this ktar.com article which both go WP:INDEPTH. There are some less-significant mentions in this NYT article, this kold.com article, and this azcentral.com article. I'd lean towards delete but it's a close call. Clear friend a ^💬 16:16, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WMJQ-CD[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG with just two sources, MeTV affiliation notwithstanding. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 15:27, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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If he were among us[edit]

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Appears to fail WP:NTV and WP:GNG DonaldD23 talk to me 14:59, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Off Road with Gul Panag[edit]

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Appears to fail WP:NTV and WP:GNG DonaldD23 talk to me 14:57, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Simon Adozi[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO. There's not a source that is independent of the subject. Some are WP:ROUTINE coverages which announce him bagging an award, they all appear in exactly copy, verbatim. Others are his opinions, etc. No source can be used to establish GNG here. Some are "Why is did this" and "Why I did that"-ish, while others are "How we're doing this" and "How we're doing that"-ish, which falls under WP:RUNOFTHEMILL. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 14:57, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Satja Nai Chum Joan (Suea Sung Fah III)[edit]

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Appears to fail WP:NTV and WP:GNG DonaldD23 talk to me 14:56, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Star Hill Ponies[edit]

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Appears to fail WP:NTV and WP:GNG DonaldD23 talk to me 14:54, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: I found a newspaper article called "Trotting towards stardom" in the South Wales Evening Post, April 1999, and one called "Titanic tricks for TV puppets" in the Western Daily Press, April 1999. Toughpigs (talk) 17:40, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sokpoly Voeun[edit]

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Semi-advertorialized article about a filmmaker and photographer, not properly sourced as passing inclusion criteria for filmmakers or photographers. The strongest attempted notability claim here is a table of "nominations" for awards at various film festivals, except there aren't actually real awards in the mix here: three of the listed festivals are just "screened" or "selected", with no evidence of any actual award nominations or wins shown at all, and most of them are "to be announced" because the festival is still in the future and hasn't even released its program announcements yet, so it still isn't even confirmed that the film will even screen there at all, let alone win any awards.
All of them, further, are "sourced" to the self-published websites of the film festivals themselves, rather than media coverage, and the rest of the footnotes are also a mix of primary and unreliable sources that aren't support for notability, rather than WP:GNG-building coverage in media or books.
There's also a possible conflict of interest here, as the creator and primary other editor have been blocked as sockpuppets in an WP:SPI check following their behaviour in the related Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Reign in Slumber discussion. Bearcat (talk) 14:21, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Qupital[edit]

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Can't find anything meeting NCORP, most of the results were the usual ORGTRIV funding announcements. Oddly enough Forbes (Contributor) article was in the regular tab and not News, guess Google is filtering them out now? Results for 橋彼道 (or 桥彼道, they didn't seem to care much) were pretty much the same, Sogou might have been slightly better than Baidu for this one but nothing of note there either. There's an article in Cifnews (雨果网) but it's a paid placement (properly marked, won't bother going into their reliability). I judge WP:NONENG to be very unlikely also. Alpha3031 (t • c) 13:36, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Al-Jami al-Kamil[edit]

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I don’t think this book is notable as it lacks in depth coverage in reliable independent sources. I tried redirecting to the article about its author but was reverted so bringing here for consensus. Mccapra (talk) 12:40, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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W31EZ-D[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG; questionable sourcing. BMarGlines (talk) 08:20, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to List of stations owned by Innovate Corp.#Current stations. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 14:07, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of stations owned by Innovate Corp.: Another low-power TV station where the only known programming is national services and there appears to be little-to-no significant coverage — not particularly surprising for what ended up as an HC2/Innovate station. (This is the channel sharing guest of separately-owned WESV-LD, but I don't think a merger in that direction is wise.) As is typical for one of these stations, a nominal survivor of a bulk nomination from 2023. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 18:12, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mirai (band)[edit]

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As per my WP:BEFORE I searched for multiple independent, reliable sources required to establish notability for the subject per WP:GNG, but I found nothing that makes this band notable. The cited sources can't establish the subject's notability.

Breakdown of cited sources:

1: https://www.idnes.cz/kultura/hudba/mirai-navratil-hudba-andel-clours-of-ostrava-rozhovor-kytara-japonsko-premium-frydek-mistek.A190919_175244_hudba_jum (May provide in-depth coverage but I can't confirm as it is locked for non premium members, but GNG requires multiple in-depth coverage)
2: https://english.radio.cz/mirai-czech-pop-act-eye-future-8758890 (No significant or in-depth coverage of the subject, as the article is shorter than ever. Fails WP:SIGCOV) GrabUp - Talk 12:35, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Paul Chantler[edit]

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These sources cover the subject only in relation to his death, nothing more, as per my WP:BEFORE. Therefore, the article fails WP:BLP1E, which states, "Reliable sources cover the person only in the context of a single event.

Breakdown of cited sources:

1: https://podcastingtoday.co.uk/one-of-the-founders-of-podcast-radio-paul-chantler-has-died/ (Single Event fails WP:BLP1E)
2: https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/1883531/BBC-radio-executive-Paul-Chantler-dead (Single Event fails WP:BLP1E)
3: https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/17547788.bbc-wiltshire-celebrates-30th-birthday-three-decades-first-broadcast-1989/ (Interview type article, no coverage of the subject)
3: https://premierchristian.news/en/news/article/tributes-paid-to-radio-exec-and-friend-of-premier-paul-chantler (Again single event tributes Fails WP:BLP1E)
4: https://radiotoday.co.uk/2024/03/friends-and-colleagues-pay-tribute-to-radio-executive-and-entrepreneur-paul-chantler/ (Fails WP:BLP1E)
5: https://www.kentonline.co.uk/kent/news/tributes-paid-after-death-of-influential-uk-radio-executive-304320/ (Again a single event fails WP:BLP1E). GrabUp - Talk 12:23, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment I may be missing something, but these obit articles have been published as a result of his death - but it is *not* the event of his death that is the reason why the papers find this person notable enough to publish the article. For example one source states "He was one of radio’s most respected and popular characters". Evidently the coverage is not in the context of a single event. I do not see how WP:BLP1E applies. ResonantDis_tortion 16:32, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ResonantDistortion, WP:BLP1E simply mentions “Reliable sources cover the person only in the context of a single event.” These sources are published in context of a single event which is his death! It is simple as that. You said “but it is *not* the event of his death that is the reason why the papers find this person notable enough to publish the article.” If you really think he is notable then cite some reliable sources with in-depth coverage of the subject. But these sources are just in the context of his death. GrabUp - Talk 16:43, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Hunan Coal Group[edit]

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I did WP:BEFORE and searched for independent reliable sources to establish the notability of the subject as per WP:GNG and WP:NCORP, but I found nothing that can establish notability. Here is a breakdown of cited sources:

1: http://www.hnmyjt.com/Item/2.aspx (This is the official website of the Company and is WP:PRIMARY, so it can't establish notability, The full article is just rely on this source)
2: https://www.hunan.gov.cn/hnszf/hnyw/zwdt/201212/t20121210_4719900.html (A government site, can't really establish notability, Just listed hundreds of companies in China)
3: https://clb.org.hk/en/content/hunan-coalminers-strike-over-privatization-plans (Just Passing mention to Hunan Coal Group and the article is only about the "Strike" of the workers of the company, not about the company.
4: https://caijing.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202107/20/WS60f66c85a3101e7ce975a86d.html (The article is talking about the history of coal in Hunan, no coverage of the Hunan Coal Group at all. Also, At the end, the article mentions:"(Author Liao Jianxiang is Secretary and Chairman of the Party Committee of Hunan Coal Group Co., Ltd.")
5: https://www.gov.cn/xinwen/2018-05/22/content_5292722.htm (Government site, Even I skip that part, the article does not give in-depth coverage of the subject, it talk about the Jailed of Chairman of Hunan Coal Industry) GrabUp - Talk 12:10, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Takeo Saeki[edit]

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Not significant enough for standalone article. Possible merge/redirect to Ju-on but no sourced info to merge. Boleyn (talk) 12:02, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Divide Pictures[edit]

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Exists but doesn't appear to meet WP:GNG / WP:ORG. Boleyn (talk) 12:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Rajan Simkhada[edit]

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It reflects poorly on us to host blatant spam like this. I went in to clean it up but couldn't find sources to support a Wikipedia biography. Most links are dead but those that I could access didn't support the claims or cover him in any depth. The is WP:UPE spam and the subject fails WP:GNG. Usedtobecool ☎️ 11:26, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Josef Kopecký[edit]

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With only database source listed, the article of this one-time Olympics participant clearly fails WP:GNG. According to Results on Sports Reference, Kopecký was not in the top three winners of 1936 Summer Olympics. He also had not gained any medal record. My Google search came up with similar namesakes.

I would also consider footballer of the same name for deletion due to possible dubious info. I also couldn't find anything to verify his death; EU-football.info stated that he played two games each for Meteor Prague and now-defunct Bohemia national football team. Unlike the shooter, footballer has corresponding article on Czech Wikipedia but it's an unsourced stub.

Josef Kopecký (footballer) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Delete both - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 12:55, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect Josef Kopecký to Shooting at the 1936 Summer Olympics – Men's 25 metre rapid fire pistol, Delete Josef Kopecký (footballer). Couldn't find sufficient sources for either to pass WP:GNG. Suonii180 (talk) 16:02, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bago University Students' Union[edit]

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I have performed WP:BEFORE and searched for in-depth coverage from independent reliable sources. However, I found only these:

These sources are just passing mentions. The subject fails to meet WP:GNG. The majority of sources that are cited are about the protest and arrest, where other people and this union's members were arrested. Does this establish notability? Please ping me if you find any in-depth coverage of the subject. GrabUp - Talk 10:02, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bubble Gum (NewJeans song)[edit]

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The article is just a copy-paste of the "How Sweet" article. Poirot09 (talk) 09:30, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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It is a stub and also it is a song article not a single article. It is also important to have a separate article as both songs are notable since Bubble Gum topped music videos in South Korea and became a big hit there. I would also like to add I am planning on adding more information and sources but as it is a b-side which was never released I simply just copy and pasted information from that article. However this will be changed. This0k (talk) 10:04, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: it certainly was released, otherwise we would never had heard it. But I would question if this was a B-side as stated... it appears that "How Sweet" and "Bubble Gum" were released together as a double single, and I wonder if it might be better to merge the two into a single article titled "How Sweet / Bubble Gum", because apart from the two chart positions, most of the content seems to apply equally to both songs. Richard3120 (talk) 10:31, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Personally I'd be fine with retitling the article. This0k (talk) 20:13, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Richard3120 Yeah, there has been a bit of a discussion going on over what classification to use for these singles, since publications have described them as double single,^[1] single album,^[2] and extended play,^[3] even though the group has used the term double single. I'm not able to engage in a long discussion atm, but you can check out Talk:NewJeans discography if you wish to contribute to the discussion with other editors.

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Radiation Roy[edit]

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I found nothing that shows notability. Non-notable character. SL93 (talk) 08:51, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Axel Downard-Wilke[edit]

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Downard-Wilke does not meet our notability guidelines for people, with very little (if any) independent sourcing. See the first nomination which was speedy kept as it was linked from the main page's DYK section. It was promptly removed after the COIN case was brought up. To me this page seems to be relatively unambiguous self-promotion. wound theology ◈ 08:16, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, based on encountering what I consider significant coverage in two profiles [7] (in this one he is rendered as "Wilke" rather than "Downard-Wilke") and [8]. This combined with the less significant but also more than trivial coverage across sources cited in the article leads me to consider the topic notable. I'm also perplexed by the OP's comment that this page seems to be relatively unambiguous self-promotion. This article wasn't created or edited by its subject (who would be the "self" in self-promotion); the COIN case is about someone who knows Downard-Wilke interpersonally having contributed to the article. Downard-Wilke, who is disclosed to be Schwede66 on Wikipedia, has never edited this article. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 12:38, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't really want to go too deep into source debates for reasons stated in my comments below, but you might want to read my original nomination statement from the first AfD – certainly that first Stuff article you linked is not an independent source. It was written to promote this edit-a-thon to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Stuff itself, which Downard-Wilke appears to have played some role in organising. This does call into question more broadly whether Stuff articles can be considered independent of Downard-Wilke.

The apparent less significant but also more than trivial coverage you refer to I believe amounts to a notability bomb when carefully investigated – although there are many sources, none turn out to contribute to notability. – Teratix ₵ 16:16, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's not self-promotion but it is a prolific DYK contributor being asked to make an article about a prominent Wikipedian and get it on the front page. Obviously we don't know who did the asking. It all stinks, anyway. Secretlondon (talk) 15:50, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Original AfD nominator here. I think this follow-up AfD is slightly premature. There is an evolving discussion underway at COIN, where Schwede66 has mentioned a cache of 50-odd potential sources for review. It would be better to take some time to properly go over these sources before going straight back to AfD. Plus, this way interested participants would not have to split their energy between content and conduct discussions, and so we can get all the facts right about the circumstances behind the article's creation (for example, I agree with Hydrangeans that calling it "self-promotion", given what we know right now, is tenuous because Schwede66 hasn't touched the article).

As it stands I would prefer this be suspended or closed procedural keep with no prejudice against renomination once other discussions have taken their course and Schwede66's sources been thoroughly reviewed. – Teratix ₵ 15:54, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Echoing the two previous comments. I feel this AFD is a bit rushed, and I don't see reasons why it may be labelled as self-promotion yet. X (talk) 16:36, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

PMMR 62[edit]

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Not exactly sure why I created this article. Anyway, does not meet WP:SIGCOV and therefore not WP:NASTRO and WP:GNG. Should be deleted or redirected to the list of largest stars. SpaceImplorerExplorerImplorer 08:39, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. The {{Notability}} tag is in the article since 2021 and the notability problem was never resolved. Fail WP:NASTRO. Also, you were the one who created this article.

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Ryan Alter[edit]

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Fails WP:NPOL, council members are not inherently notable. There’s not enough sources that are independent, reliable and significantly covers the subject to warrant a standalone entry. Sources are mostly WP:ROUTINE coverages, statistical or PRs. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 08:39, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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SMC 018136[edit]

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Definitely no significant coverage in literature and therefore does not meet WP:NASTRO. Either delete the page or redirect it to list of largest stars. SpaceImplorerExplorerImplorer 08:32, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Daniel Kokotajlo (AI researcher)[edit]

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Almost all sources show that Kokotajlo is notable only because of his controversial resignment from OpenAI. There are no profiles of him or his research, and I can't find any info that he won any major award or led a major team, etc. Wikipedia is not a news site, and I think that the policy says exactly this: Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons#Subjects_notable_only_for_one_event and Wikipedia:What BLP1E is not. Artem.G (talk) 08:15, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Willian Forte[edit]

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Professional player with a career that started in 2019 and without any activity since 2022 [9]. There appears to be a spell at SE Palmeiras but I didn't find anything. Fails in WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 08:04, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Non-notable topic due to a lack of significant coverage of the subject.—Alalch E. 10:17, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 12:53, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Peters (media executive)[edit]

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Fails WP:BIO and WP:JOURNALIST. Run of the mill coverage of this executive who used to run Euronews, but not much in terms of in-depth of independent from the subject (interviews, press releases) which would indicate this is a notable individual under our guidelines. Pilaz (talk) 14:50, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Poshtkuh-e Shamil[edit]

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I originally nominated this for PROD with the following justification, which I largely stand by: None of the cited sources clearly indicate a place by this name in Farsi, although there are partial title matches. There is no corresponding page on fa.wiki. This is likely a GNIS ghost or some other error. Sources all relate to Hormozgan province, but there's no useful mention at that page that could justify a redirect.

Now, since opening a PROD for this page with the above reasoning, a new account has repeatedly attempted to refbomb the page with a mountain poorly formatted citations, most of which have the same aforementioned problem of referring to a Poshtkuh (پشتکوه) but not a Poshtkuh-e Shamil (پشتکوه شمیل). However, I do note that at least one of the new sources does refer to "Poshtkuh, Shamil Region" (پشتکوه بخش شمیل) [10]. The level of coverage is still such that I think we fall short of meeting WP:GNG or WP:NGEO--we have basically no verifiable claims about the region to build an article around, and it is not self-evident that this is a distinct, recognized populated place. "Poshtkuh" essentially means "behind the mountain" in Farsi, and could easily be an informal descriptor rather than an actual defined place. Thus, I think that a redirect to Shamil Rural District and extended-confirmed protection of the page is appropriate. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 13:43, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect per nom. The creator was blocked for sockpuppetry so this article was likely to have been an innocent looking geostub intended to get their edit count up. Mccapra (talk) 19:19, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Matt Hannaford[edit]

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despite being flagged for improvement for nearly a decade now, the article still has major issues. much of the article seems to be either original research, or things Matt has been only involved with tangentially (like stars his coworkers at the company represented). this could be improved if the article met WP:BIO, but even that seems doubtful. Free Realist 9 (talk) 13:03, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Job Bogmis[edit]

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None of the sources used contribute to notability: #1, #3 are interviews, #4 is not an independent source (associated with the team of the University he was playing for), #2 does not show significant coverage. I could not find other sources to fulfill WP:GNG. Broc (talk) 07:41, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - I found [11], [12], [13], and [14] among many more Spanish sources.

This source "analysis" is infuriating and incorrect... all the sources have secondary coverage ("In Cameroon he spent all day working on whatever he could to help his large family. They had nothing left over. The ball was just entertainment... he has the African presence in his game. Dizzying power and potency... Bogmis has always been a believer, but his faith became more intense during lockdown... he was a figure in the UdeC title in youth football", "Originally from Yaoundé, the capital of the African country... a loan, the difficulties of the climate and language, the desire to return to his country during the pandemic and endless obstacles he had to overcome before his sweet present, the one that has him as one of the figures to follow in the 'B' during this 2022", "The story of Job Bogmis is that of a fighter full of dreams. He arrived in 2019 with three young people from Cameroon. They were all promised heaven, but some were left stranded in Temuco and he was the only one who continued in soccer... He speaks Spanish better and better, he no longer needs a translator", "the cold, the difficulties with the language and the few opportunities left him alone very soon. Today, at 22 years old, he dreams of being recognized for his talent, although his team is in last place in the Primera B standings... plays on the right wing, his pass is worth $200,000 and he was the last victim of verbal violence on the Chilean fields")

the reason the third source is "associated" with the team he played for was because it was from the same city... like seriously? Young player with onoging career in Chilean pro soccer that will definielt get many more sources in his ongoing pro career as well. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 08:33, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per sources above which show notability. Giant Snowman 13:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alex (2025 film)[edit]

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Article on a planned film, apparently created by its director, hasn't actually begun filming yet, zero coverage so far outside of two posts on director's YouTube channel. Moved to draft three times, where it was correctly declined once as failing WP:NFILM. My speedy A7 was declined in favour of a third move back to draft, but article creator moved it back to main space minutes later, so here we are. Wikishovel (talk) 07:40, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. Also keeps removing COI templates despite doing nothing to actually resolve it, although seems like they've stopped for now. Sadustu Tau (talk) 10:41, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of television programmes broadcast by ITV[edit]

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Fails NOTDIRECTORY/NOTTVGUIDE. List criteria is programming "that are either currently being broadcast or have previously been broadcast", Wikipedia is not an electronic program guide, current or historical. Fails NLIST, no independent reliable sources discuss this as a group. BEFORE found programing schedules, nothing more. List has grown so much is it hard to tell if any of it is original programming, BEFORE did not find sources showing original programming discussed as a group. // Timothy :: talk 07:15, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: As per nominator. Duke of New Gwynedd (talk | contrib.) 13:14, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Refer to Category:Lists of television series by network. Generally speaking, most of them list the programs they carry, and have no sourcing. Most of them are also kept current if programs are added or dropped. There are literally hundreds of stations involved, if not thousands of stations and programs involved. If anyone disagrees with how it's handled, I'd suggest discussing it at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television. — Maile (talk) 17:40, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment A couple of comments on the nomination. For those more familiar with television elsewhere, the UK traditionally only had a very small number of TV broadcasters - the ITV group was one of two from 1955 to 1982, the other being the BBC. So there is a lot of original programming in that list - prior to 1982, about half of the UK's locally-originated TV programming was made by one of the ITV companies. In terms of reliable sources discussing this as a group, one I'd suggest is Asa Briggs' The History of Broadcasting in the United Kingdom, Volume V: Competition, which has a lengthy chapter (Audiences and Programmes (1955-1960), pp141-255) discussing the early development of ITV programming across a range of genres and contrasting it with BBC TV in the same period. Adam Sampson (talk) 16:25, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Micro (text editor)[edit]

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Besides one potentially WP:RS on the article, I wouldn't consider this article to pass WP:GNG. "[D]esigned around simplicity and ease of use" also makes the article quite promotional. Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 12:56, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The promotional wording wasn't intentional. Anyhow in the context of WP:NSOFT, having 20k stars on GitHub and coverage in Linux Magazine and many other FOSS-focused sites makes it notability imo. Wqwt (talk) 13:13, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: has decent coverage in Linux Magazine, ItsFoss, HowToGeek, and MakeUseOf. StreetcarEnjoyer (talk) 22:59, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hmm. I'm inclined to add a single sentence on GNU nano and redirect there. I don't think the sourcing is quite sufficent to justify a separate article yet. Github stars aren't really something we can write an article from, and how to guides aren't that great either, and that, rather than a measure of how significant or important something is, is what "notability" means here. A single sentence shouldn't be too undue either Alpha3031 (t • c) 14:30, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The sourcing seems comparable to say Geany or Kate or Code::Blocks. Surely you would consider Linux Magazine a RS. Is there a consensus on itsFoss as a source? MakeUseOf seems to be a borderline case. In the context of FOSS applications, which are still niche in coverage compared to Windows and Mac programs, there is extensive coverage here. Wqwt (talk) 21:36, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am not aware of any prior consensus regarding It's FOSS either on RSN or elsewhere, but based on their about page and what I know of them, they're a group blog, not something that has a formal editorial review process. Not that I would be unhappy if this is kept, either also as no consensus or outright, I just don't think there is sufficient consensus for a carve out for FOSS from the usual coverage based requirements. Though, to be honest, I'm fairly sure most Windows and Mac programs wouldn't be notable either. Alpha3031 (t • c) 09:39, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Rahaman Abiola[edit]

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Fails WP:NJOURNALIST and generally WP:GNG. Sources are either announcing him as new editor-in-chief of Legit.ng, passing mentions or dependent on the subject. Being Reuters-trained, or working with other Nigerian media outlets, etc, isn't a credible claim of notability. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 20:39, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Even though notability is not inherited, Rahaman's contribution to the media space is evident here as his writings are used as a reference to several Wikipedia articles. As a known journalist, Rahaman is seen working for notable media houses like Legit.ng, Medium, Sahara Reporters, Nigerian Tribune, TheCable, Tuko, YNaija, BusinessDay Nigeria, The Media Online, Dubawa, Business Post Nigeria, The Paradigm and Theindustry.ng as seen on his verified Muck Rack page here. He is recognized by Reuters Institute for the Study of Journalism — Preceding unsigned comment added by Siagoddess (talk • contribs) 22:49, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yet, these do not automatically confer GNG or JOURNALIST on him. For the former, there are several journalists whose publications in the media are being used on Wikipedia, that doesn't automatically make them notable. for the latter, these are all his employers/clients, etc, and still doesn't count towards GNG. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 23:05, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: @Vanderwaalforces, the entity passes criteria 1 of WP:NJOURNALIST as he is cited as a source for most Wikipedia pages as stated earlier. That alone confirms his notability. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Siagoddess (talk • contribs) 23:07, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: BLP. Fails GNG and NBIO. The sources in the article and above do not meet WP:SIRS, addressing the subject directly and indepth. Found material failing WP:IS, and name mentions, nothing that meets SIRS from independent non-promotional sources addressing the subject indepth. // Timothy :: talk 09:22, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Source eval:

Comments	Source
Interview, fails WP:IS	1. "Award-winning Journalist, Rahaman Abiola Shares Tips for Creating Quality Stories -". primusmediacity.com. 18 April 2022. Retrieved 2024-04-03.
Routine mill news, fails WP:IS fails WP:SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth	2. ^ Obi, Daniel (2024-03-20). "INMA appoints Legit.ng's Editor-in-Chief Rahaman Abiola into its Africa Advisory Council Board". Businessday NG. Retrieved 2024-03-27.
Routine mill news, fails WP:IS fails WP:SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth	3. ^ Jump up to:a b Ola (2023-04-24). "Legit.ng gets new Editor-in-Chief, Head of Desk". I-79 Media Consults. Retrieved 2024-03-28.
Nothing about subject, fails WP:SIGCOV	4. ^ Toromade, Samson (2023-06-14). "Nigeria Health Watch lands over 250 solutions journalism stories in 2 years". Pulse Nigeria. Retrieved 2024-03-28.
Routine mill news, fails WP:IS fails WP:SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth	5. ^ Mix, Pulse (2024-03-20). "INMA appoints Legit.ng's Editor-in-Chief Abiola to Africa Advisory Council". Pulse Nigeria. Retrieved 2024-04-03.
Routine mill news, fails WP:IS fails WP:SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth	6. ^ Tosin, Alamu (2023-04-12). "Legit.ng Appoints New Editor-in-Chief, Head of Desk and Others". NGNews247. Retrieved 2024-05-09.
Routine mill news, fails WP:IS fails WP:SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth	7. ^ INMA appoints Legit.ng's Rahaman Abiola into its Africa Advisory Council Board.
Name mentioned in list, nothing meets WP:SIGCOV addressing the subjeect directly and indepth	8. ^ "INMA: Africa Advisory Committee". www.inma.org. Retrieved 2024-05-09.

BLPs require strong sourcing. // Timothy :: talk 09:22, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - Entity featured on notable news websites, held talks on globally recognized platforms for journalist and his works are widely recognized. --Siagoddess (talk) 14:00, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Violin Sonata in B minor[edit]

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This disambiguation page is redundant of Sonata in B minor, which was originally at this title before a page move. The redirect was then reverted. The two sonatas listed here are already covered at Sonata in B minor (a broader disambiguation page). Additionally, one of the sonatas listed here (Sonata in B minor (Atterberg)) is only a partial-title match because it is generically for strings, not solely for violin. I propose restoring the redirect. I am also nominating the following page for redirecting as well since it is also redundant:

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Redirect to Sonata in B minor to avoid duplicate list. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:55, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep all. None of them is a duplicate of another. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 10:10, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that they're not duplicates, but they are redundant. Additionally, as I noted, the Violin Sonata DAB page contains just two entries, and one is a partial-title match that's already covered at Sonata in B minor; I've also reorganized the broader DAB page into sections. voorts (talk/contributions) 16:28, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I still think that the Piano one is needed and I therefore do not mind the violin one. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 18:18, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(But the latter could be a simple redirect maybe). -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 18:19, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why not just have the piano one redirect to Sonata in B minor § Piano sonatas in B minor? voorts (talk/contributions) 18:20, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Because /Sonata in B minor/ primary "super-topic" (in which, Liszt's one is obviously the most notable, ie the primary topic) are the Piano ones imw. Rephrasing: when one searches "Sonata in B minor", it's a piano sonata one is most likely searching, and, very probably, Liszt's, so that it is clearer, in my opinion, to have the piano ones on one page (with a See also for the sonatas for other instruments). I hope I am making sense. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 18:48, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So basically you want to merge Sonata in B minor into Piano Sonata in B minor? If that's the case, I don't see why that's necessary, since the current Sonata in B minor page accomplishes that. voorts (talk/contributions) 19:32, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If the Liszt piece is the primary topic, then Sonata in B minor's intro can be rewritten as follows:
The '''[[Piano Sonata in B minor (Liszt)|]]''' was completed by Franz Liszt in 1853 and published in 1854.
'''Sonata in B minor''' may also refer to:
Since all of the non-piano pieces have an article title with "Sonata in B minor", they should not be in the see also section of the piano DAB page since they are valid entries on the more general DAB page. voorts (talk/contributions) 19:42, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
To clarify: I do not wish the non-piano instruments individual articles mentioned in the See also section of the Piano sonata DISAMB, my phrasing was misleading, sorry, just the Disamb page for sonatas for other instruments. Having two (or three) DISAMB pages seems at least as good as having 1 in the present case. Hence my K !vote.

If you wish to restore the REDIR for the Violin one, why not? but again, I'd rather have a Piano DISAMB and a General DISAMB.

Even regarding the Violin DISAMB, the violin/harpsichord sonata (in B minor) BWV 1014 is sometimes referred to as "violin sonata in B minor" (a misleading but common wording for sonatas for keyboard+ x instrument, when they aren't sonatas for x solo) and could be mentioned there (hence 3 articles). Anyway, decide for the best. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 21:28, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I get what you're saying. I still think it makes more sense for readers to have one DAB with everything in proper sections, rather than multiple DAB pages. This would also things easier to maintain for editors. voorts (talk/contributions) 22:38, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Vikrant Adams[edit]

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Fails WP:NPOL, WP:NAUTHOR or WP:GNG. Can’t see them passing any of these. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 06:09, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Horace Pierite, Jr.[edit]

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Not meeting WP:NBASIC, and tagged since February 2024 for notability, missing multiple independent sources. PigeonChickenFish (talk) 16:52, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I'd have to agree with you on this one. On WP:NBASIC Mr. Pierite fits best into the category of Politician, and he has not held international, national, or state–wide office, has not been a member of a legislative body at any of the aforementioned levels, and has not received significant press coverage, to quote the guideline. This article should be deleted. WIKIPEDA (yes i meant to misspell it) (talk) 18:40, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
He has held national office, as Native American tribes are sovereign per U.S. law. AvoyellesCajun (talk) 12:07, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Horace Pierite Jr. appears to have been elected to tribal government as both a (Vice) Chairman and tribal councilor. Tribal government offices of federally recognized tribes, being sovereign nations, would typically meet WP:NPOL. Sources will definitely exist for a tribal (Vice) chairman who helped his tribe get federal recognition, but things like tribal newspapers from the 1970s and 1980s are unlikely to be available online. ~~Keep in mind here we appear to be talking about a former head of state for the Tunica-Biloxi tribe.~~ TulsaPoliticsFan (talk) 16:29, 11 May 2024 (UTC). added (Vice) and struck wrong claim TulsaPoliticsFan (talk) 16:16, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

TulsaPoliticsFan are you finding reliable citations that support this person was an elected official? PigeonChickenFish (talk) 23:44, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

this chapter from a book on tribes seeking federal recognition has a few chapters on the Tunica-Biloxi. It says in 1974 the tribe elected four council members, from whom the council then named Joe Pierite Jr. as the first tribal chairman; his sister, Rose Pierite White, as the first tribal secretary; Horace Pierite Jr., whose father had been chief before Joe Pierite Sr., as vice-chairman; and Sam Barbry Sr., the son of Eli Barbry, who was married to Horace Pierite Jr.’s sister, as the sole councilman. TulsaPoliticsFan (talk) 16:12, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The University of Oklahoma Law Library and The National Indian

Law Library of the Native American Rights Fund have copies of these docs. Here is an example showing Horace was Vice Chairman in 1974. https://thorpe.law.ou.edu/constitution/tunica-biloxie/index.html AvoyellesCajun (talk) 12:23, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Horace Pierite Jr held multiple offices within the Tunica Biloxi Tribal Government. He is also one of the four signers of their original legal documents filed with the State of Louisiana. The Tunica Tribe is a sovereign nation under U.S. law and treaty. I have no idea why PigeonChickenFish is trying to deny or diminish this Native American's contribution to his tribe and his nation. I have noticed a pattern with PigeonChickenFish regarding multiple Native Americans and their tribes in Louisiana. You can review PigeonChickenFish changes to those articles. AvoyellesCajun (talk) 12:12, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AvoyellesCajun please no personal attacks, see WP:CIV. Also an AfD is not a denial of an entire Native American tribe, the issue here was notability. Lots of claims are made in the article with no sources or poor sources. When I tried to find the missing sources, I found none. PigeonChickenFish (talk) 04:24, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

After you extensively edited the article today, I am not seeing reliable sources still. Is anyone able to find more? PigeonChickenFish (talk) 08:57, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Dear Friend: The Three Bachelors[edit]

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Tagged as unreferenced since 2009. No good hits from GSearch, GNews and GNews Archives. Redirect to Dear Friend (TV series) as per WP:ATD. --Lenticel ^(talk) 05:15, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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India-Latin America relations[edit]

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Articles on diplomatic relations are supposed to be country specific as long as they concern modern period. This article's title is too broad, inaccurate and whatever is added here can be already found on other articles.Ratnahastin (talk) 05:08, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't share that understanding of what counts as a legitimate article at all; there are many articles concerning country-to-region relations, such as Africa–India relations, Sino-Latin America relations, etc. Also, I would like to ask which other articles most of the information in this article can be found at. GreekApple123 (talk) 05:40, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Africa–India relations is based on historical relations while Sino-Latin America relations shall also require deletion.Ratnahastin (talk) 06:15, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep or Merge the article is well formatted and cited with many references which covers this topic in depth. It does spun around the topic, passes general notability. However if merging is an option then I'd not oppose it merging in Foreign relations of India. Based Kashmiri (talk) 15:38, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The page is well written and has many reliable sources with significant coverage on the India-Latin economic and trade ties and history. Passes WP:GNG. I am also not opposed to Merge to Foreign relations of India. RangersRus (talk) 13:05, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Per nom. Duplicative of other articles. No point. Yilloslime (talk) 15:29, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom or Merge into other Indian articles about relations with Latin America

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Synergy Teleconferencing System[edit]

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Obscure Bulletin board system, ~~which was/is based in the Bay Area from what I can tell~~. I couldn't find any SIGCOV. Redirecting to Diversi-Dial would be a reasonable outcome. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 04:55, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Actually it might not be based in the Bay Area, I might have gotten this confused with "Synerchat" which appears to be related to Synergy Teleconferencing System but might not be the same thing. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 05:00, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah... turns out Synergy Teleconferencing System was definitely a global thing. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 05:05, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Chris King and Vicki Grant[edit]

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This article doesn't have reception or signification coverage about the character, and the hero forms section was written awfully or its fully redundant; thus failing WP:GNG. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 06:32, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ma Hunkel[edit]

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I couldn't any relevant source per BEFORE for this character; thus failing WP:GNG. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 06:24, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: The nominator doesn't account for the existing reliable sources cited in the article: Superhero: The Secret Origin of a Genre by Peter Coogan (2006), American Comic Book Chronicles: 1940-1944 by Kurt Mitchell and Roy Thomas (2019), and American Comic Book Chronicles: 1965-1969 by John Wells (2014). These published sources demonstrate notability for the character. Toughpigs (talk) 17:46, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bombing of Toncontín International Airport[edit]

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Unneccessary WP:FORK of Football War, already covered there in a few sentences. Page unlikely to be expanded nor new RS published Mztourist (talk) 05:56, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

u can delete if u want Wikidude2243 (talk) 06:01, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

or i i can change text Wikidude2243 (talk) 06:08, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

i can change the text Wikidude2243 (talk) 06:01, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Amir Hossein Hashemi[edit]

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doesn't meet WP:GNGACTOR, Non include WP:RSP Claggy (talk) 05:51, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The Furious[edit]

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Fails WP:NFILM and WP:GNG. Does not have sufficient independent significant coverage for a standalone article. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 05:19, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Kenji Tanigaki: There are only two sources which only covered the announcement of this film's production (one from Variety[15] and one from Comingsoon.net [16]). I did a search for Chinese sources, but nothing came up. I don't know Thai, so maybe some other Wikipedians can perform additional searches for Thai sources to see if there are something I have missed. Regardless, the film is unlikely to be unnotable in the future, given the cast and the high budget invested by Edko Films, and it would be mentioned in some other articles (eg, the director and the actors' biography). So a redirect to the director, Kenji Tanigaki, would be more ideal at the moment. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 08:21, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Haunting of Harrington House[edit]

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Fails WP:NFILM and WP:GNG. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 05:16, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Sources in the article are either primary or unreliable sources. I did some searches about the film but found no related RS. Fails GNG. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 09:27, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep: A very detailed search of books and archived articles about the film from User:Cunard. I think it is safe to consider the film has enough sources to pass GNG. Although the article requires a rewrite as none of the sources currently cited in the article are RS. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 09:49, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Prince of Erebor (talk · contribs), would you review the sources I posted below. Thank you. Cunard (talk) 09:39, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
1. McNally, Owen (1981-09-08). "CBS Mystery Thriller Excellent for Children". Hartford Courant. Archived from the original on 2024-05-25. Retrieved 2024-05-25 – via Newspapers.com.
  The review notes: "Now joining this elite kind of serious, worthwhile entertainment programming for youngsters is "The CBS Children's Mystery Theater," which makes its second presentation of the season this afternoon on WFSB-TV Channel 3 in a drama entitled, "The Haunting of Harrington House." The one-hour dramatization is a light, entertaining mystery story complete with a moderately scary atmosphere—accented by dark, gloomy rooms, secret passageways, sinister peepholes in odd places—and a cast of sometimes ominous, mostly eccentric characters played with special zest by Roscoe Lee Browne, Vito Scotti and Edie Adams. ... Browne turns in by far the best acting role here in his well-polished cameo role. Most of the other performances seem painfully wooden by contrast."
2. Fossum, Ella B. (February 1990). "The Haunting of Harrington House". School Library Journal. Vol. 36, no. 2. p. 54. EBSCOhost 9003120392.
  The audiovisual review is of "The Haunting of Harrington House. vid- eocassette. color. 29:50 min. Prod. by Learning Corp. of America. Dist. by Coronet/MTI. 1989. #6054L."
  The review notes: "A seance during a thunderstorm is the opening scene for The Haunting of Harrington House. Polly Ames is visiting her father, the proprietor of Harrington House Hotel. Polly's hobby is photography, and when she learns that ghostly happenings at the hotel are forcing the guests to leave, she decides to try to solve the mystery. She is aided by Diogenes Chase, a retired math teacher who helps her sort out the clues. He reminds her that the correct sum of the clues equals the solution to the mystery. An aging movie star, a gambling uncle, and a housekeeper are among the suspects. Polly's photographs and Chase's logical thinking move the plot along toward its solution. The eerie music is an effective accompaniment. Polly Ames is played by Dominique Dunne, who played the older sister in the first Poltergeist movie (she died in 1983). A familiar character actor from television, Roscoe Lee Brown, plays the role of Diogenes Chase. The ongoing discussions between Polly and Chase on the use of reasoning skills in resolving the mystery make this video a suitable choice for any middle school reading group."
3. Bowker's Directory of Videocassettes for Children 1999. New Providence, New Jersey: R. R. Bowker. 1999. ISBN 978-0-8352-4201-1. Retrieved 2024-05-25.
  The book notes: "The Haunting of Harrington House. (1989). Film—How-to. 46 min. Juvenile. Grades: 7-12. When 14-year-old Polly arrives home from boarding school, she discovers that the tenants of her father's hotel are hurriedly departing, frightened away by a ghost. Polly resolves to unravel the mystery. Aided by a math teacher with a flair for deductive reasoning, Polly learns to recognize & analyze clues & to find their sum by adding them together. Her home is saved when she succeeds in unmasking the all-too-human ghost! As a model of cinematic mystery, this involving tale lends itself artfully to the analysis of plot, character, & setting as contributing to, & supporting the central theme."
4. "Girl Makes Spirited Search". The Morning News. 1982-02-27. Archived from the original on 2024-05-25. Retrieved 2024-05-25 – via Newspapers.com.
  The article notes: "A schoolgirl returns home for a holiday and finds her father's hotel being ravaged by strange unexplainable events, in "The Haunting of Harrington House," to be re-broadcast on the CBS Chil- dren's Mystery Theater, Tuesday, Mar. 2 (4:30-5:30 p.m.). In the eerie tale, Polly Ames' (Dominique Dunne) excitement at returning home is dampened when she discovers that the hotel run by her father (James Callahan) and uncle (Phil Leeds) has earned a reputation as being haunted, and, as a consequence, is on the brink of bankruptcy."
5. "Eerie tales for children". The Anniston Star. 1981-09-05. Archived from the original on 2024-05-25. Retrieved 2024-05-25 – via Newspapers.com.
  The article notes: ""The Haunting of Harrington House," an eerie tale about a schoolgirl who returns home for a holiday and finds her father's hotel being ravaged by strange and unexplainable events, will be broadcast on Tuesday, Sept. 8 (3:30-4:30 p.m.). The program is the second presentation of the "CBS Children's Mystery Theater." ... As haunted houses go, the huge Los Angeles mansion which was used for the title structure was not much. It was really more friendly than frightening."
6. "Actress strives to be unuusal". The Clarion-Ledger. 1982-02-28. Archived from the original on 2024-05-25. Retrieved 2024-05-25 – via Newspapers.com.
  The article notes: "
  The article notes: "It is just this brand of healthy good looks which has catapulted her in two years from a secretary's job to a starring role in The Haunting of Harrington House, a presentation of the CBS Children's Mystery Theater to be rebroadcast Tuesday, March 2 at 3:30 p.m. on CBS. She has in her supporting cast such veterans as Roscoe Lee Browne, Phil Leeds, Vito Scotti, James Callahan and Edie Adams. In the hour-long mystery drama, Dominique portrays Polly, a teenage student who returns home for a holiday at the hotel run by her father and her uncle, only to find that it has become a frightening place. She then determines to discover why it has earned the reputation of a "haunted house" in order to save it and her father from bankruptcy."
7. Witosky, Diane (1982-03-02). "Tuesday's Best". The Des Moines Register. Archived from the original on 2024-05-25. Retrieved 2024-05-25 – via Newspapers.com.
  The article notes: "Young viewers have the best deal with "Children's Mystery Theater" at 3:30 on CBS. "The Haunting of Harrington House" is the eerie story of a young girl who comes home to her father's hotel to find strange forces at work. Dominique Dunne plays Polly Ames, the schoolgirl who is thrilled to be visiting her dad while on holiday. James Callahan plays her father and Phil Leeds is her uncle. The two men are trying to save the hotel from bankruptcy when stories begin to circulate that the building is haunted. Roscoe Lee Browne plays a hotel guest who helps young Polly solve the mystery. CBS says the goal of its "Mystery Theater" series is to help improve reasoning skills through the use of mystery tales. That might turn children away, so let's also say it is a well-done production that is a lot of fun to watch."
8. Less significant coverage:
  1. Terrace, Vincent (2013). Television Specials: 5,336 Entertainment Programs, 1936–2012 (2 ed.). Jefferson, North Carolina: McFarland & Company. p. 86. ISBN 978-0-7864-7444-8. Retrieved 2024-05-25 – via Google Books.
    The book notes: "22. The Haunting of Harrington House. Sept. 8, 1981. Polly Ames (Dominique Dunne), an adventurous 14-year-old girl teams with Diogenes Chase (Roscoe Lee Browne), a retired detective to solve the mystery of strange happenings at Harrington House, a spooky residential hotel. With Edie Adams, James Callahan, Vito Scotti."
  2. Ellis, Chris (2005). The Mammoth Book of Celebrity Murders. London: Little, Brown Book Group. ISBN 978-1-78033-409-7. Retrieved 2024-05-25.
    The book notes: "During 1981, Dominique pushed herself hard and took on two film roles, the first being the lead role in The Haunting of Harrington House. This was a stretch as the now 21-year-old actress was to play the part of Polly Ames, a 14-year-old schoolgirl."
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow The Haunting of Harrington House to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
Cunard (talk) 09:39, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to CBS_Children's_Mystery_Theatre: some coverage exists, so not opposed to Keep but opposed to Deletion. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:48, 25 May 2024 (UTC) (assisted vote made without checking the discussion itself and evidently moot, see below)[reply]
Keep. Obviously. Thank you, Cunard, as always. @Prince of Erebor:, if they wish to have a look at what was presented.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:52, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @Mushy Yank: Yea, Cunard has pinged me and I have seen the overwhelming RS presented. Changed my vote to Keep. Thanks! —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 09:59, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Ah, yes sorry, I had missed that too! Apologies, Cunard. Thank you both. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 10:13, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Immortal Ashwatthama[edit]

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Fails WP:NFILM and WP:GNG. Upcoming film that has, of course, not received sufficient coverage for a standalone article. I can’t figure a best WP:ATD-R and Draftify would not be a bad idea. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 05:14, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Poor sources with only one has a mention of talks with actor Allu Arjun but nothing has been confirmed. The film is not even in post production which fails to warrant a page as of now. This is a case of way WP:TOOSOON. I would not even consider to Draftify this page until it reaches post production. Page also fails WP:GNG. RangersRus (talk) 12:44, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Poitín (band)[edit]

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Does not meet WP:BAND criteria. The founder and main contributor of the site is apparently someone from the band and the page is more a self-presentation. FromCzech (talk) 04:41, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for your thoughts. Do you have any suggestions to avoid it being deleted? Poitin31 (talk) 17:31, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Karuna Trust (Sri Lanka)[edit]

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Organization fails WP:NORG. GTrang (talk) 04:06, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Zero-install[edit]

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Article has been undeleted following soft deletion from the previous AfD. Despite that, I still think that this fails WP:NPRODUCT and WP:NSOFT, as searching for "zero install" (with quotes) on Google returned no reliable independent secondary sources. GTrang (talk) 04:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep. I have changed the article so it now describes a concept, not the particular bit of software, and therefore think that the WP:GNG is more applicable. Some of the old information (about some product) is kept as a section. I am not attached to this text, so if it helps to keep the article, the whole section "Zero Install" (note the uppercase letters) can go. A decent amount of OK sources can be found if the same search is performed on Google Scholar. The problem is that most of these sources do not provide much coverage. The only coherent source found by me that has WP:SIGCOV is a bachelor's thesis, and thus somewhat weak from the reputability perspective. --Викидим (talk) 04:34, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
weak keep since it is not a product, but a kind of process the essays are not relevant. I think more time is required to allow improvement. I remember this concept from over a decade ago, so it is not a new-fangled idea. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 04:46, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Yet another option to consider is to merge the lead into Installation (computer programs)#Necessity (renaming the destination section accordingly). The destination section currently has no sources. --Викидим (talk) 05:36, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sri Preston Kulkarni[edit]

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Redirect to either the 2018 campaign or the 2020 campaign is warranted or delete. The article summarizes Sri Preston Kulkarni as the Democratic nominee for in 2018 and 2020 for Congress in Texas. Candidates are neither notable or not notable under WP:GNG and WP:POLITICIAN.

There is some routine coverage that one can expect in any semi-competitive congressional election. I do not believe that it meets the barrier for "significant coverage." The closest thing the article does to try and differentiate his candidacy from others is say he did outreach to Asian-American voters. Aside from its use of puffery, it's also NOT UNORTHODOX. Most viable campaigns reach out to persuadable voters and have literature/canvassers speak languages written/spoken in the district. Numerous campaigns have affinity subgroups (think Ethnic Americans for Dole/Kemp).

His father is Venkatesh Kulkarni, but notability is not inherited. There is nothing in the article stating his time in the United States Foreign Service was so unique as to warrant an entry and listing every country seems to be a way to mask the lack of notability Mpen320 (talk) 23:19, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep with some rewriting to focus on what constitutes notability. But I do think notability is there: I think the focus here should be on Kulkarni's unusual, early use of (now-popular) relational organizing tactics, in particular with Asian-American groups. The Intercept article already linked in the piece (legit national outlet, not state based coverage) touches on this but there are plenty of other articles out there, findable via cursory google search, that make this clear:

Two years ago, a Democrat named Sri Kulkarni attempted to oust an incumbent Republican from a congressional district outside Houston. His campaign turned to relational organizing, finding thousands of new voters in tight-knit immigrant communities that weren’t plugged into politics. Kulkarni lost by just 5 points, but his relational strategy caught fire, both nationally and in Texas. His organizing director, Emily Isaac, took the lessons she learned on Kulkarni’s race to Bernie Sanders’ presidential campaign as his relational organizing director. Mother Jones, "The Unspoken Reason the Alaska Senate Race Is So Close"

Kulkarni’s campaign style is very focused on something he calls “relational organizing” — volunteers put effort into getting family, friends, co-workers, or other people they know in the community to get out and vote. “I think that by 2020, this is how all canvassing is going to be done,” he said. Vox, "A Texas Democrat’s radical experiment in turning out Asian-American voters could become a model for the party"

Kulkarni said that other campaigns call him for insight into his relational-organizing model: “They’ll ask us, ‘Is this proprietary?’ Of course not. I want people to copy what we’re doing in Texas Twenty-two all over America.” New Yorker, "Are Asian Americans the Last Undecided Voters?"÷

Kulkarni’s campaign built the largest relational organizing program in the nation during that election cycle, with volunteers phone-banking in 13 different languages. By connecting with so many tight-knit communities within the district, the campaign became something of a community in and of itself. Daily Kos, "A tied house race in Texas"

So - I grant that emphasis may need to change but here you've got really substantial coverage in national outlets, some of which is solely focused on Kulkarni and his pathbreaking use of relational organizing. Even the New Yorker article which isn't all about him gives him 6+ paragraphs. Feels notable to me. Sorry for the sloppy linking here btw, I'm just in a bit of a rush. Vivisel (talk) 18:35, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reply. The New Yorker article is about Asian-American voting generally. It mentions him once. It is not significant coverage of him or his campaign. The Daily Kos article is from a contributor, not Daily Kos staff. It's basically self-published. Relational organizing is not new. From a Mother Jones article (that yes mentions the subject in similar, trivial passing): The first thing relational organizing evangelists say is that their approach is nothing new. Word-of-mouth and community-based activism were the backbone of the civil rights, women’s rights, farmworkers’, and labor movements. The only person cited on the "newness" of this is is Kulkarni or his past/present employees who have an incentive to boost their methods as being more revolutionary than it is. The reliance on them for direct quotes muddies the waters as to how independent of the subject such claims for notability are. This is routine coverage of semi-competitive congressional race in the age of political nerds. This is far more appropriate for a redirect to the campaign. This campaign technique by itself does not warrant an article on the candidate especially given the technique is not particularly new or innovative. Finally, an article about yourself (or someone you like) isn't necessarily a good thing.--Mpen320 (talk) 21:25, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe take a closer look at the New Yorker article? I say that because you say he is "mentioned" but I see seven paragraphs of content which clearly required multiple interviews to accumulate. And he is "mentioned" 25 times in that article by name.

And: any thoughts on the Vox article, which is obviously not a passing mention?

I note also that the MoJo article you cite to suggest that relational organizing is not new is actually an article about the ways in which it *is* distinctive. (Subhed: "The pandemic wrecked traditional campaigning. Relational organizing stands to reinvent it.") Indeed, right after the quote you reproduced comes the "But" followed by a many paragraph discussion of how those traditional methods of community organizing had been threatened or minimized over time.

Also, your last sentence is passive-aggressive, needless, and unhelpful to the discussion itself. Vivisel (talk) 18:28, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Zesławicki Lagoon[edit]

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A small artificial reservoir in suburban Krakow; fails WP:GNG. Both sources in the article are WP:USERGENERATED; a BEFORE search does not unearth any additional qualifying sources. Under WP:NGEO, an artificial infrastructure entity qualifies for notability under GNG and otherwise redirects to the notable feature that prompted its creation. In this case, the river the the lagoon impounds is not notable and thus, without qualifying sources, neither its the lagoon itself. Dclemens1971 (talk) 02:50, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I haven't translated these but a search for "Zalew Zesławicki" brings up [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] [22]. I'm not sure if all of these pass GNG, for instance the last one is just a single sentence, but there's at least sources. SportingFlyer T·C 06:38, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Its likely notable as a geographic feature. There will be the countries water body reference i.e. a Bathymetrical register that describes width/height/depth and 100 other properties. scope_creep^Talk 08:48, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It is not listed in the official Polish directory of bodies of water: WYKAZ NAZW WÓD STOJĄCYCH (LIST OF NAMES OF STANDING WATERS). Dclemens1971 (talk) 11:51, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Voice of Life[edit]

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Radio station fails WP:GNG and WP:NCORP. No effort in article to demonstrate notability. All sources in article are to self-published/primary sources. No significant coverage in independent, secondary sources, just a handful of WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS. Dclemens1971 (talk) 02:32, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Battle of Mangal[edit]

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Extreme reliance on WP:RAJ sources, no reliable/good secondary sources. Noorullah (talk) 02:09, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Most of the cited sources are WP:RAJ & outdated sources (WP:AGE MATTERS). Based Kashmiri (talk) 07:49, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. One reliable source from historian Sandhu with three page on the battle that helps with verification of the content.. All other are poor to self published to unreliable WP:RAJ sources. RangersRus (talk) 12:34, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Note to closer: All the sources from the page were removed by an editor while the AFD nom was in progress. It is an attempt to sabotage other's decision for voting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RangersRus (talk • contribs) 13:40, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. General Hari Singh Nalwa 1791-1837 (1935) is reliable and has worthwhile information on this battle. UnbiasedSN (talk) 20:56, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Not one reliable source here. Closer, Autar Singh Sandhu's book was deprecated by an admin involved in SA topics in the RSN-For example, (link to Sandhu's book) is likely an unacceptable source because of its age (1935), publisher, and lack of academic reviews and peer review articles written by its author (at least I didn't find any on a quick search. There is only one book that can be traced back to Autar Singh Sandhu (which is cited here), and it was written in 1935, there is zero information available whatsoever on the author; on the extent of his academic credentials, tenure, educational posts, his bibliography etc. Given that AFDs are supposed to be based on merit and not enumerating votes, far less weight should be accorded to those who say Sandhu's General Hari Singh Nalwa is a RS, because it is undeniably not. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 11:21, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Note to closer: This is the user who, previously mentioned, removed all the sources in an attempt to sabotage the voting process.
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WODK-LD[edit]

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Subject does not meet the GNG. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 02:42, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to List of stations owned by Innovate Corp.: Another run-of-the-mill 2010s-started DTV America/HC2/Innovate station without any local content, significant coverage, or any expectation of any change to that. (Even its Telemundo affiliation originates at a separately-owned station that doesn't even have an article.) Like many articles on similar stations, this article was a nominal survivor of a bulk nomination from 2023. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:22, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thumb Cellular[edit]

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Fails GNG and NCORP. Sources in article and found in BEFORE do not meet WP:SIRS, addressing the subject directly and indepth by independent reliable sources. Found name mentions, promotional, listings, nothing meeting WP:SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth. // Timothy :: talk 01:14, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Why not try to add on to the article rather than delete it? I worked on it for literally 2 1/2 hours trying to find the most information I could on the subject. I did it right before I had to go to work too. Plus, there are many local cellular providers and local radio stations listed on Wikipedia that have been up for years, meaning that there is an interest in them. What makes Thumb Cellular different? Demondude182 (talk) 07:52, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, the current rule is supposed to be that we can't trust what companies have to say about themselves. This includes pres releases, and most of the regular business announcements that you see, which are mostly just copy-and-pasted press releases. It used to be less strict, and the articles on those other local cellular providers were probably created back then, and nobody has gotten around to reviewing if they need to be deleted since then. Alpha3031 (t • c) 13:33, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - I see some WP:ROUTINE local coverage but nothing that meets WP:ORGCRIT. --CNMall41 (talk) 22:41, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Mountain House Community station[edit]

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This proposed commuter train station does not pass WP:GNG or WP:NSTATION Sources 1, 4, and 5 have WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS of this planned station in the broader context of the Valley Link system; sources 2 and 3 are primary sources. With this station not scheduled to open until 2028 at the earliest, a standalone article is WP:TOOSOON. I propose to redirect this page to Valley Link until there is sufficient SIGCOV in reliable sources to warrant a standalone page. Dclemens1971 (talk) 00:54, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect per nomination. Appears to be too soon for a standalone article. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 12:21, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. There are already lots of references, and their number and length will grow as designs are finalized and coverage of the project and individual stations continues. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 04:35, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You obviously didn't read them as none of the independent sources say more than a sentence or two about the station, and you're making a very bold assumption about a station not expected to open until near the end of the decade. Valley Link already exists. But why let facts get in the way of your personal feelings? Trainsandotherthings (talk) 12:23, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Per WP:FUTURE "Individual scheduled or expected future events should be included only if the event is notable and almost certain to take place." According to the sources, "The Valley Link project has been awarded $25 million by the state.That funding will go toward Valley Link’s first phase — the 26-mile section from the Pleasanton BART station to the proposed Mountain House station. The overall project is expected to cost $3.6 billion." — Maile (talk) 19:02, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Abdul Azim Badakhshi[edit]

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Doesn't meet WP:NMMA Claggy (talk) 01:57, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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*Keep It meet WP:SPORTSPERSON and WP:ANYBIO. I understand your concern regarding the notability of Abdul Azim Badakhshi on WP. However, Abdul Azim Badakhshi's unique background as Businessmen, social media personality and both an Pro-MMA athlete and a Pro-kickboxer sets him apart. While some athlete may not meet the notability criteria, Badakhshi's multifaceted sports career warrants recognition. Moreover, his status as a public figure in Afghanistan and india further emphasizes his significance. ==hampionship Status==: Abdul Azim Badakhshi's title as the AFC (Afghanistan Fighting Championship) Champion in the 76 kg weight class is a notable achievement in a recognized MMA organization. His participation in significant MMA events, including the main card of AFC - Afghanistan Fighting Championship 3,Brave CF 47 - Brave Combat Federation 47: Asian Domination, ACB 86 - Moscow highlights his prominence in the sport.

Media Coverage: Badakhshi has received substantial media coverage, with in-depth articles profiling his career and contributions to MMA. According to WP , a sportsperson is presumed to be notable if they have won a significant honor and received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources independent of the subject. Badakhshi meets this criterion, indicating sufficient sources to meet the general notability guideline (GNG).

WP:BIOFAMILY Abdul Azim Badakhshi being the son-in-law of Jackie Shroff, one of the most famous actors in Bollywood cinema, has always been a headline in Indian news. Their relationship has garnered millions of fans in India. This has led Badakhshi to become a public figure in India as well. https://www.hindustantimes.com/entertainment/bollywood/tiger-shroff-wishes-sister-krishna-shroff-on-her-birthday-gifts-her-a-trip-to-maldives-for-one-person-only-101642752859707.html

https://www.bollywoodshaadis.com/articles/meet-tiger-shroffs-sister-krishna-shroff-mma-trained-non-celeb-status-reality-show-debut-more-52002

Business and Social media personality Abdul Azim Badakhshi has extended his influence beyond the MMA ring into business and social media. He has invested in fitness and sports-related ventures, promoting health and wellness through training facilities that support aspiring athletes.

On social media, Badakhshi has garnered a substantial following on platforms like Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter. His engaging content, including training videos and motivational posts, connects with millions of fans. He uses his platform to advocate for social causes, such as human rights and youth empowerment, making him a respected public figure.

Through his business ventures and active social media presence, Abdul Azim Badakhshi has become a multifaceted personality, inspiring many both in and out of the sports world.

I hope this information clarifies Abdul Azim Badakhshi’s notability. Thank you for considering this evidence. I am open to further discussion and additional sources if needed to support the inclusion of this article.Parwiz ahmadi (talk) 10:02, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Parwiz ahmadi He doesn't meet WP:ANYBIO cuz not received any significant award or honor. WP:SPORTSPERSON also doesn't meet cuz no any WP:RSP in article. Son-in-law of Jackie Shroff doesn't meet notability guideline cuz WP:NOTGENEALOGY. Claggy (talk) 20:45, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

please have a look at this (https://www.independentpersian.com/node/199151/%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%B2%D8%B4/%D9%BE%DB%8C%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%B2%DB%8C-%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%B2%D8%B4%DA%A9%D8%A7%D8%B1-%D8%A7%D9%81%D8%BA%D8%A7%D9%86-%D8%AF%D8%B1-%D8%A8%D8%B2%D8%B1%DA%AF%E2%80%8C%D8%AA%D8%B1%DB%8C%D9%86-%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%A8%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%AA-%D8%B1%D8%B2%D9%85%DB%8C-%D8%AF%D8%B1-%D9%87%D9%86%D8%AF)

As I seen WP:RSP , The independent is considered as reliable source Parwiz ahmadi (talk) 22:03, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please have a look at this https://www.bbc.com/persian/afghanistan-43362531 , As of WP:RSP BBC is considered reliable source. Parwiz ahmadi (talk) 22:18, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WBON-LD[edit]

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Subject does not meet the GNG. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 01:54, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Juan Astorga Junquera[edit]

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Subject has a stable article at Spanish Wikipedia but notability according to English Wikipedia guidelines for either WP:GNG, WP:NACADEMIC or WP:ARTIST isn't evident. I'd like to hear what others think. Rkieferbaum (talk) 01:36, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Apache–MySQL–PHP packages[edit]

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There was an AfD on this previously that determined to keep this article on the basis that AfD is not a place to resolve sourcing concerns. I think there are sourcing concerns with respect to notablity, which is a valid reason to bring an AfD. I can't find any reliable article that actually makes comparisons between different AMP stacks. The two sources in the article are about individual stacks, and don't make any comparisons between different stacks. HyperAccelerated (talk) 23:40, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to LAMP (software bundle) and redirect those that relate to AMP variants to LAMP (software bundle)#Variants. As HA has said, this article does not make any meaningful comparisons, so I don't see any objections against its inclusion in Wikipedia somewhere. I'm also pretty sure that we can find reliable sources that tell us these softwares are *AMP stacks for that platform.
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Files[edit]

File:Mrwhosetheboss YouTube icon.jpg[edit]

It's rather gray for this logo. It both fails and passes NFCC1 depending on how you look at it. This logo is an image of a living person, so theoretically, the image can be replaced with a free equivalent. Any comments for this? --Min☠︎rax^«¦talk¦» 02:15, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This image has an incorrect tag. While tag as copyrighted, this image isn't a logo, it is a photograph of a living person, Arun Rupesh Maini. Delete it, non-free media depicting a living person constitutes violation of WP:NFCC#1, because it always replaceable with other images depicting him. Kys5g^talk! 03:15, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:ChrisMD YouTube Icon.jpg[edit]

It's rather gray for this logo. It both fails and passes NFCC1 depending on how you look at it. This logo is an image of a living person, so theoretically, the image can be replaced with a free equivalent. Any comments for this? --Min☠︎rax^«¦talk¦» 02:15, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This image has an incorrect tag. While tag as copyrighted, this image isn't a logo, it is a photograph of a living person, Christopher Michael Dixon. Delete it, non-free media depicting a living person constitutes violation of WP:NFCC#1, because it always replaceable with other images depicting him. Kys5g^talk! 03:15, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:H 4 ill 639759 cambodia-phnom penh-1979-61.jpg[edit]

This file has a non-free rationale, but it does not have a license tag indicating its license. Kys5g^talk! 10:29, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Seal of the Bangladesh Air Force (BAF).svg[edit]

Per source, this file is from Bangladesh Air Force's website. Such media from this website is / are licensed freely under CC BY-SA 4.0. Kys5g^talk! 13:57, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Sketch (streamer) icon.jpg[edit]

This is not a logo. This is a photograph of a Sketch that he uses as his YouTube image, similar to a profile picture. We certainly do not allow, say, Facebook profile pictures to be used in this manner, so this is no different. Fails WP:NFCC#1. – Pbrks ^(t·c) 15:08, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Categories[edit]

NEW NOMINATIONS[edit]

Category:Buildings Downtown Portland, Oregon[edit]

Propose merging Category:Buildings Downtown Portland, Oregon to Category:Buildings and structures in Portland, Oregon

Nominator's rationale: --Another Believer _(Talk) 14:06, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. It's the "Downtown" that distinguishes this category. Portland is a major city with many distinct neighborhoods. It would be helpful to look up buildings by neighborhood, rather than lumping every building in the city together. Thanks. Pickwiki (talk) 15:44, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Pickwiki: If you're going to create subcategories, then I'd suggest Category:Buildings and structures in North Portland, Oregon, Category:Buildings and structures in Northeast Portland, Oregon, Category:Buildings and structures in Northwest Portland, Oregon, Category:Buildings and structures in South Portland, Oregon, Category:Buildings and structures in Southeast Portland, Oregon, and Category:Buildings and structures in Southwest Portland, Oregon, based on Category:North Portland, Oregon, Category:Northeast Portland, Oregon, Category:Northwest Portland, Oregon, Category:South Portland, Oregon, Category:Southeast Portland, Oregon, and Category:Southwest Portland, Oregon. --Another Believer _(Talk) 22:21, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If kept, rename to Category:Buildings and structures in Downtown Portland, Oregon. No opinion on whether than warrants a category. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:47, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Pppery I've proposed a different way to subcategorize above, if you are interested in revisiting this discussion. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 22:22, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge, no other neighborhoods in Portland have their own subcategory while that would be more interesting. It is too obvious that many notable buildings are in downtown. If not merged, rename to Category:Buildings and structures in Downtown Portland, Oregon for better grammar. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:52, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Art awards by country[edit]

Propose renaming Category:Art awards by country to Category:Visual arts awards by country
Propose renaming Category:Australian art awards‎ to Category:Australian visual arts awards
Propose renaming Category:Bangladeshi art awards‎‎ to Category:Bangladeshi visual arts awards
Propose renaming Category:British art awards‎‎ to Category:British visual arts awards
Propose renaming Category:Canadian art awards‎ to Category:Canadian visual arts awards
Propose renaming Category:Danish art awards‎ to Category:Danish visual arts awards
Propose renaming Category:Dutch art awards‎ to Category:Dutch visual arts awards
Propose renaming Category:French art awards‎ to Category:French visual arts awards
Propose renaming Category:German art awards‎‎ to Category:German visual arts awards
Propose renaming Category:Indian art awards‎ to Category:Indian visual arts awards
Propose renaming Category:Italian art awards‎ to Category:Italian visual arts awards
Propose renaming Category:Japanese art awards‎ to Category:Japanese visual arts awards
Propose renaming Category:New Zealand art awards‎ to Category:New Zealand visual arts awards
Propose renaming Category:Pakistani art awards‎ to Category:Pakistani visual arts awards
Propose renaming Category:Russian art awards‎ to Category:Russian visual arts awards
Propose renaming Category:Slovenian art awards‎‎ to Category:Slovenian visual arts awards
Propose renaming Category:South African art awards‎ to Category:South African visual arts awards
Propose renaming Category:Ukrainian art awards‎‎ to Category:Ukrainian visual arts awards
Propose renaming Category:European art awards‎ to Category:European visual arts awards

Nominator's rationale: There's a bit of an inconsistency issue in this category tree that's causing some confusion. All of the subcategories here are named "X art awards" except the American one, which is Category:American visual arts awards -- but the parent category is Category:Visual arts awards rather than "Art awards", which resulted in me having to do a major cleanup run to move a whole lot of articles that had been left in the parent instead of being moved to any of these subcategories, potentially because these are named differently than the parent and thus people didn't realize they existed. Bearcat (talk) 21:18, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, this old chestnut keeps rearing it's ugly head, Art is not a sub-category of Visual arts and Category:Art awards by country has been incorrectly categorised subsequently to its creation. Category:Arts awards by country etc would be a better parent category. "Art" includes more than just the 'visual'. Sionk (talk) 21:35, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Turkic Sufi saints[edit]

Propose merging Category:Turkic Sufi saints to Category:Sufi saints

Nominator's rationale: There have been several cfds that found that Turkic foos aren't defining. It looks like this category was missed. Mason (talk) 21:17, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Singles by decade by record label[edit]

Propose merging Category:Singles by decade by record label, Category:2000s Atlantic Records singles, Category:2010s Atlantic Records singles, Category:2020s Atlantic Records singles, Category:2000s Island Records singles, Category:2010s Island Records singles, Category:2020s Island Records singles, Category:Atlantic Records singles by decade, and Category:Island Records singles by decade to Category:Atlantic Records singles, Category:Island Records singles, various singles-by-year categories as appropriate and delete the main container cat.

Nominator's rationale: No need to break them up by decade--that would be better handled with a discography anyway--and no need to have the scheme Category:Singles by decade (in the 21st century only) and record label. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:52, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, there was already a discussion about this. Sahaib (talk) 05:40, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Officers of Ipswich Corporation[edit]

Propose merging Category:Officers of Ipswich Corporation to Category:Ipswich Corporation

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. There is only one page here, which isn't helpful for navigation. I strongly encourage the category creator not to create categories with only one page in them. Mason (talk) 00:53, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with Category:Ipswich Corporation to Category:History of Ipswich. It is very unhelpful to create a separate category for every article. I will tag Category:Ipswich Corporation too. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:47, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Even better! Mason (talk) 21:33, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per Marco. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:56, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Alder carrs[edit]

Convert Category:Alder carrs to article Alder carr

Nominator's rationale: I don't really know what to do with this category. I think it's for a very specific kind of wetland that only applies to a specific kind of tree. This category feels like a non-defining intersection between kind of tree and kind of landform, but I'm not an expert. Mason (talk) 00:58, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: This category appears regularly as a feature on early Ordnance Survey maps. Leutha (talk) 08:18, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Romanian people by ethnic or national origin and occupation[edit]

Propose merging Category:Romanian people by ethnic or national origin and occupation to Category:Romanian people by occupation

Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only two subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:53, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I don't see anything inherently wrong with the category. It could get larger if we made categories for other numerous minorities in Romania like Germans or Roma. I also see we already have an American equivalent, Category:American people by ethnic or national origin and occupation. Super Ψ Dro 21:43, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep — nothing wrong with having only two subcategories, and as noted by Super Dromaeosaurus, there is potential for at least two more. — Biruitorul ^Talk 21:58, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete — Except for politicians (as Romania posits itself as a nation state, ethnic politicians often represent the interests of ethnic minorities), such association in entirely irrelevant and should not exists, per WP:EGRS. If somebody wants a random category intersection, there are tools out there that can create it using existing categories. Anonimu (talk) 15:32, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Conspiracist media[edit]

Propose deleting Category:Conspiracist media (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: This category contains medias that are mainstream, and most of these are from certain countries. Coddlebean (talk) 06:09, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak delete; perhaps upmerge A lot of these are indeed conspiracist media, like InfoWars. But categories are not a place where we can verify their status as conspiracist. That's a job for reliable sources in articles. WP:RSP can help. But verification of membership is probably a time-consuming effort. If we don't do that verification regularly, this risks becoming a WP:SUBJECTIVECAT. But perhaps we should upmerge the category to its parents? NLeeuw (talk) 06:34, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Upmerging does not solve the problem, it just moves the problem to another place. Besides Category:Alternative media is certainly not a proper merge target. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:50, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fair points. NLeeuw (talk) 08:24, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lean to delete, considering the fact that many articles are already in a more specific subcategory of Category:Conspiracy theories I don't think this category adds much value in itself. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:06, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
keep These are not mainstream media; they are something else. Whether or not they are mostly from certain countries is beside the point; they are from wherever they are from. Specific media outlets are quite different from specific theories and, as such, are not (and should not be) in the random set of articles I looked at in Category:Conspiracy theories. Hmains (talk) 18:16, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, to distinguish between media promoting conspiracy theories and those merely investigating them. Paleontologist99 (talk) 16:28, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Paleontologist99. - Amigao (talk) 19:31, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Populated places on the Underground Railroad[edit]

Propose deleting Category:Populated places on the Underground Railroad (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Specific buildings which served as stations on the Underground Railroad are absolutely defined by it but an entire town, city or county is usually not. In some cases, certain locales like New Bedford, Massachusetts were such hubs of the Underground Railroad that they should be kept in the main category but that can be done on a case by case basis. User:Namiba 15:30, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:07, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
keep These are historically related places. They were certainly defining for these places during the historical period involved here: 1840s and 1850s in the United States. These illegal activities were something that many people in a place were at least silently aware of and did not bring to the attention of law enforcement. In many cases, the articles do not point to a specific building(s) so there is no use in thinking that will keep tying these together, as they should be. Hmains (talk) 18:51, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is it defining though? In most cases, no. Neither Portland, Maine nor most other cities are not defined by the fact that they had a stop in the Underground Railroad. For cities which are defined as such, they can and should be categorized within the tree. If you can show otherwise, I will withdraw the nomination.--User:Namiba 17:07, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Delete per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:52, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Religious buildings and structures destroyed in the Muslim period in the Indian subcontinent[edit]

Propose renaming Category:Religious buildings and structures destroyed in the Muslim period in the Indian subcontinent to Category:Hindu temples destroyed during the Muslim period in the Indian subcontinent

Nominator's rationale: rename per actual content. They are all Hindu temples. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:37, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rename per nom. 08:23, 10 May 2024 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nederlandse Leeuw (talk • contribs)
Rename perhaps as Category:Religious structures destroyed during the Muslim period in the Indian subcontinent. The structures destroyed during that period include not just Hindu temples but also Jain and Buddhist ones (i.e., all idol-worshiping Indian religions). Rasnaboy (talk) 13:19, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on the alt rename?
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User:Rasnaboy has just added Jain temples, Halebidu to the category. I suggest to move this article to Category:Destroyed temples and have the rename pursued as nominated. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:55, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Marcocapelle's proposal?
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Category:History of Great Britain[edit]

Category:History of Great Britain (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Option A: remove header and a remove a number of parent categories. Option B: nominate subcategories for merger. In any case, the current content of the category is completely out of sync with how the category creator(s) intended. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:23, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Palestinian American activists for Palestinian solidarity[edit]

Propose splitting Category:Palestinian American activists for Palestinian solidarity to Category:American people of Palestinian descent and Category:American activists for Palestinian solidarity

Nominator's rationale: Dual merge. This is an extremely narrow intersection of activists for a specific cause, intersecting with nationality and ethnicity. Mason (talk) 19:30, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dual merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:28, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Middle Eastern anti-racism activists[edit]

Propose merging Category:Middle Eastern anti-racism activists to Category:Anti-racism activists by nationality

Nominator's rationale: Redundant category lawyer with only three middle eastern nationalities in it. Mason (talk) 19:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:29, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Yoruba Muslim leaders[edit]

Propose renaming Category:Yoruba Muslim leaders to Category:Yoruba Muslim religious leaders

Nominator's rationale: rename per Category:Yoruba religious leaders. This category was at WP:CFDS for a different rename proposal. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:58, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

copy of speedy discussion

Category:Yoruba Muslim leaders to Category:Yoruba Muslim clergy – C2C: parent is Muslim clergy Mason (talk) 00:59, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, not all articles in the category are about clergy. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:52, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Move to full? Mason (talk) 12:35, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @Smasongarrison: fair enough, but I would advocate "religious leaders" rather than "clergy" per the other parent category. Religious leaders is broader than clergy. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:17, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  I'd be fine with religious leaders. Mason (talk) 22:26, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Do not we have consensus here? Ymblanter (talk) 21:05, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  @Ymblanter: consensus yes, but C2C does not apply because the two parent categories have different formats (clergy vs religious leaders). If this were to be speedied, it could be done per WP:IAR. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:15, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  I see, someone should take it to the full discussion. Ymblanter (talk) 06:22, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. Mason (talk) 19:01, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Terrorist incidents in Venezuela[edit]

Propose splitting Category:Terrorist incidents in Venezuela to Category:Terrorist incidents in South America and Category:Terrorism in Venezuela

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category only has one page in it and it's also not clear cut if the one page Attack on Fort Paramacay is terrorism. Mason (talk) 18:13, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dual merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:29, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Male bacteriologists[edit]

Propose merging Category:Male bacteriologists to Category:Bacteriologists

Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between being male and a specific kind of biologist, under per WP:EGRS Mason (talk) 18:08, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just delete, the only article is already in Category:British bacteriologists. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:31, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Women speculative fiction editors[edit]

Propose merging Category:Women speculative fiction editors to Category:Speculative fiction editors and Category:Women editors
Propose merging Category:Male speculative fiction editors to Category:Speculative fiction editors

Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between editor, genre of editing, and gender. There's no male editor category in general. Mason (talk) 18:04, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per WP:OCEGRS, trivial intersection. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:08, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Michigan-Ontario Collegiate Conference football seasons[edit]

Propose deleting Category:Michigan-Ontario Collegiate Conference football seasons (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Only one subcategory. Let'srun (talk) 01:49, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep; part of well-established tree. Jweiss11 (talk) 01:50, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom, categorization by year suffices in this case. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:27, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Template Large category TOC on category with up to 1200 pages[edit]

Propose merging Category:Template Large category TOC on category with up to 200 pages (0) to Category:Template Large category TOC on category with up to 1200 pages
Propose merging Category:Template Large category TOC on category with 201–600 pages (0) to Category:Template Large category TOC on category with up to 1200 pages
Propose merging Category:Template Large category TOC on category with 601–900 pages (0) to Category:Template Large category TOC on category with up to 1200 pages
Propose merging Category:Template Large category TOC on category with 901–1200 pages (0) to Category:Template Large category TOC on category with up to 1200 pages

Nominator's rationale: We have sub-tracking categories either to avoid a massive parent category or because different situations require different fixes. The category tree is currently empty, so it is not the first one. And they all require the same fix (swapping to {{Automatic category TOC}}; you don't need a large TOC for categories which have fewer than 1200 members). Therefore, there is no need for this amount of granular detail; one tracking category is plenty. (See also Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 23#Category:Categories without CatAutoTOC and friends.) House Blaster (talk · he/him) 15:50, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Template Category TOC on category with X–Y pages[edit]

Propose merging Category:Template Category TOC on category with 101–200 pages (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Template Category TOC tracking categories
Propose merging Category:Template Category TOC on category with 201–300 pages (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Template Category TOC tracking categories
Propose merging Category:Template Category TOC on category with 301–600 pages (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Template Category TOC tracking categories
Propose merging Category:Template Category TOC on category with 601–900 pages (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Template Category TOC tracking categories
Propose merging Category:Template Category TOC on category with 901–1200 pages (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Template Category TOC tracking categories

Nominator's rationale: After Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 23#Category:Categories without CatAutoTOC and friends, these are all redundant category layers with one subcategory. Merge all to Category:Template Category TOC tracking categories. House Blaster (talk · he/him) 15:38, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Template Category TOC on category with over 1200 pages[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was: speedy keep. (Withdrawn.) (non-admin closure) House Blaster (talk · he/him) 15:43, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Template Category TOC on category with over 1200 pages to Category:Categories which use Category TOC without Automatic category TOC

Nominator's rationale: Following up on Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 23#Category:Categories without CatAutoTOC and friends, I think that this category makes the most sense as part of Category:Categories which use Category TOC without Automatic category TOC. (If a category does use {{Automatic category TOC}} and has more than 1200 pages, it will automatically use {{Large category TOC}}. Therefore, any category with more than 1200 pages with {{Category TOC}} does not use {{Automatic category TOC}}.) This merge will also allow for a massive simplification to the code of Template:Category TOC/tracking. House Blaster (talk · he/him) 15:24, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:American Roman Catholic poets[edit]

Propose renaming Category:American Roman Catholic poets to Category:American Catholic poets

Nominator's rationale: I think we should broaden this category because there's no Roman Catholic poets parent category and all the siblings under category:Catholic poets by nationality are FOOian Catholic poets. Mason (talk) 15:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rename per nom. I honestly had no idea there were types of Catholics until today but I agree, this should match other similar categories to this. Omnis Scientia (talk) 15:14, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rename, diffusion by church body within the Catholic Church is only useful if there are a significant number of Eastern Catholics too, but that does not seem to be the case here. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:12, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Activists for Palestinian solidarity[edit]

Propose ??? Category:Activists for Palestinian solidarity (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: This is a random mix of people who aren't activists. Purge the category and leave in actual activists. Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:29, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also I'm not too sure about it but maybe rename to "Pro-Palestinian activists". Any other suggestion would be helpful; this one seems rather vague. Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:30, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll wait for some consensus here before I proceed with the subcategories. Honestly, going through them, I don't think any of these people in any of these categories were checked to see if they actually were activists for Palestinian solidarity, particularly given a number of these aren't pro-Palestinian but rather anti-Israeli. Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:33, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would prefer keeping this category, I should add, since there is a big Palestinian movement and activists who are pro-Palestinian. I just think we should be careful who to put in. Some of these "pro-Palestinian" people aren't pro-Palestinian at all. Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:36, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support doing something, but mixed on the alternative rename. I think that the "Pro-Palestinian activists" are indeed a more specific subgroup that are definitely nested within Anti-racist activists. Perhaps splitting or nesting/reorganizing to acknowledge that there are also activists for Palestinian civil rights etc. idk 🤷 It's really complicated.Mason (talk) 18:21, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Smasongarrison, it is quite complicated, you're right. I'm not too sure about myself but, IMO and as you have said yourself, "Pro-Palestinian" is less vague and more definable than "Activists for Palestinian solidarity". Omnis Scientia (talk) 19:32, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's a fair point. (To be clear, I'm not opposed to the rename if that's were consensus goes. ) I've started cleaning up the ethnic/religious intersections with the group in the hope that I'll have some inspiration. Mason (talk) 19:37, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Purge: a removal of articles about people who weren't activists is a no-brainer. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:18, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Southeast Asian people of Brazilian descent[edit]

Propose deleting Category:Southeast Asian people of Brazilian descent (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: We do not categorize descent categories by regions; we only group them by continents and countries. I do not see any valid reason to make an exception for Southeast Asia. Aldij (talk) 13:41, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom Omnis Scientia (talk) 15:46, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:19, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Southeast Asian people of Chinese descent[edit]

Propose deleting Category:Southeast Asian people of Chinese descent (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: We do not categorize descent categories by regions; we only group them by continents and countries. I do not see any valid reason to make an exception for Southeast Asia. Aldij (talk) 13:41, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:52, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom Omnis Scientia (talk) 15:46, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Academic libraries in Algeria[edit]

Propose splitting Category:Academic libraries in Algeria to Category:Libraries in Algeria and Category:University and college buildings in Algeria

Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge for now. There are only two redirects in this category, which isn't helpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 13:24, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dual merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:20, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Works by Sidi Boushaki[edit]

Propose merging Category:Works by Sidi Boushaki to Category:Arabic poetry

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only one poem in here, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 13:21, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just delete, the article is already in Category:Poems in Arabic. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:21, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Even better! Mason (talk) 18:22, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Algerian inventions[edit]

Propose deleting Category:Algerian inventions (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Redudant category layer (merge for now). The lone child category is already in all the parent categories it needs Mason (talk) 13:19, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:22, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Painters of the Holy Land pre-1948[edit]

Propose renaming Category:Painters of the Holy Land pre-1948 to Category:???????

Nominator's rationale: I'm not really sure what to do with this category name, because it isn't particularly helpful/descriptive. Is this painters from after 1948 who painted the "holy land" or is it painters of what the "holy land" looked like after 1948. Mason (talk) 13:12, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, among Category:Painters by theme this concerns an extremely narrow theme. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:35, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Early modern period[edit]

Propose renaming Category:Early Modern history of Algeria to Category:Early modern history of Algeria
Propose renaming Category:Early modern Angola to Category:Early modern history of Angola
Propose renaming Category:Early Modern history of Armenia to Category:Early modern history of Armenia
Propose renaming Category:Early Modern Austria to Category:Early modern history of Austria
Propose renaming Category:Early Modern history of Azerbaijan to Category:Early modern history of Azerbaijan
Propose renaming Category:Early Modern history of Belarus to Category:Early modern history of Belarus
Propose renaming Category: Early Modern history of Bengal to Category:Early modern history of Bengal
Propose renaming Category:Early Modern Britain to Category:Early modern history of Britain
Propose renaming Category:Early Modern England to Category:Early modern history of England
Propose renaming Category:Early Modern France to Category:Early modern history of France
Propose renaming Category:Early Modern history of Georgia (country) to Category:Early modern history of Georgia (country)
Propose renaming Category:Early Modern history of Germany to Category:Early modern history of Germany
Propose renaming Category:Early Modern Holy Roman Empire to Category:Early modern history of the Holy Roman Empire
Propose renaming Category:Early Modern history of Hungary to Category:Early modern history of Hungary
Propose renaming Category:Early Modern history of India to Category:Early modern history of India
Propose renaming Category:Early Modern history of Iran to Category:Early modern history of Iran
Propose renaming Category:Early Modern history of Iraq to Category:Early modern history of Iraq
Propose renaming Category:Early Modern Ireland to Category:Early modern history of Ireland
Propose renaming Category:Early Modern Italy to Category:Early modern history of Italy
Propose renaming Category:Early Modern history of Lithuania to Category:Early modern history of Lithuania
Propose renaming Category:Early Modern Luxembourg to Category:Early modern history of Luxembourg
Propose renaming Category:Early Modern Morocco to Category:Early modern history of Morocco
Propose renaming Category:Early Modern Netherlands to Category:Early modern history of the Netherlands
Propose renaming Category:Early Modern history of Poland to Category:Early modern history of Poland
Propose renaming Category:Early Modern history of Portugal to Category:Early modern history of Portugal
Propose renaming Category:Early Modern history of Russia to Category:Early modern history of Russia
Propose renaming Category:Early Modern Scotland to Category:Early modern history of Scotland
Propose renaming Category:Early Modern history of Serbia to Category:Early modern history of Serbia
Propose renaming Category:Early Modern Sicily to Category:Early modern history of Sicily
Propose renaming Category:Early Modern history of Somalia to Category:Early modern history of Somalia
Propose renaming Category:Early Modern history of Somaliland to Category:Early modern history of Somaliland
Propose renaming Category:Early Modern history of Spain to Category:Early modern history of Spain
Propose renaming Category:Early Modern history of Sweden to Category:Early modern history of Sweden
Propose renaming Category:Early Modern history of Switzerland to Category:Early modern history of Switzerland
Propose renaming Category:Early Modern Thailand to Category:Early modern history of Thailand
Propose renaming Category:Early Modern history of the United Kingdom to Category:Early modern history of the United Kingdom

Nominator's rationale: rename. First, a capital M is not needed, per Early modern period, Category:Early modern period and Category:Early modern period by country. Next to that, we may harmonize the categories further to either "Early modern country" or "Early modern history of country". ~~I will add targets to the nomination when the latter becomes a bit more clear in the discussion.~~ Marcocapelle (talk) 11:51, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rename all to Early modern history of Fooland, lowercase "m" (following several recent precedents), and "history of" to prevent any anachronisms about countries that didn't yet exist, or didn't yet have their modern names (at least not in contemporary sources, or historiographical convention / common parlance), e.g. the Netherlands (most but not all was the Dutch Republic), the United Kingdom (most but not all was the Kingdom of Great Britain), Ukraine (most but not all was the Cossack Hetmanate or Hetmanshchyna), Germany (HRE, you know the drill), Belarus, India, etc. NLeeuw (talk) 12:14, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom and Nleeuw. Excellent points! Mason (talk) 13:21, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom and Nleeuw. I concur with Mason. Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:49, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Sportspeople by sport and populated place[edit]

Propose renaming Category:Water polo players by city or town to Category:Water polo players by populated place
Propose renaming Category:Volleyball players by city or town to Category:Volleyball players by populated place
Propose renaming Category:Sport wrestlers by city or town to Category:Sport wrestlers by populated place
Propose renaming Category:Speed skaters by city or town to Category:Speed skaters by populated place
Propose renaming Category:Skiers by city or town to Category:Skiers by populated place
Propose renaming Category:Sport shooters by city or town to Category:Sport shooters by populated place
Propose renaming Category:Sailors (sport) by city or town to Category:Sailors (sport) by populated place
Propose renaming Category:Rugby union players by city or town to Category:Rugby union players by populated place
Propose renaming Category:Rugby league players by city or town to Category:Rugby league players by populated place
Propose renaming Category:Racing drivers by city or town to Category:Racing drivers by populated place
Propose renaming Category:Ice hockey people by city or town to Category:Ice hockey people by populated place
Propose renaming Category:Field hockey players by city or town to Category:Field hockey players by populated place
Propose renaming Category:Handball players by city or town to Category:Handball players by populated place
Propose renaming Category:Gymnasts by city or town to Category:Gymnasts by populated place
Propose renaming Category:Golfers by city or town to Category:Golfers by populated place
Propose renaming Category:Figure skaters by city or town to Category:Figure skaters by populated place
Propose renaming Category:Fencers by city or town to Category:Fencers by populated place
Propose renaming Category:Cyclists by city or town to Category:Cyclists by populated place
Propose renaming Category:Curlers by city or town to Category:Curlers by populated place
Propose renaming Category:Cricketers by city or town to Category:Cricketers by populated place
Propose renaming Category:Canoeists by city or town to Category:Canoeists by populated place
Propose renaming Category:Boxers by city or town to Category:Boxers by populated place
Propose renaming Category:Basketball players by city or town to Category:Basketball players by populated place

Nominator's rationale: Per a discussion in speedy. We should first change "city or town" to "populated place" before proceeding with nationality categories. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:58, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging @Marcocapelle, @Smasongarrison, and @Armbrust from the speedy discussion. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:10, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support all. When these were made, "city or town" was the standard for WP categories, but the more inclusive "populated place" is now the norm and makes perfect sense. Grutness...wha? 10:31, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. And thanks Omnis for doing the legwork on getting these cats in line with the populated place norm. Mason (talk) 12:17, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support all per nom. NLeeuw (talk) 12:17, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per several recent cases in which we renamed this way. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:19, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Happy to see them renamed accordingly, less clumsy than the current names. Sionk (talk) 19:07, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Basketball people by city or town[edit]

Propose merging Category:Basketball people by city or town to Category:Sportspeople by sport and populated place and Category:Basketball players

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge to parent categories. Only one category layer. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:50, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:21, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom Mason (talk) 18:22, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Basketball people (players, coaches, referees, team owners, journalists etc) are not just players.--User:Namiba 18:48, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Namiba, the category only has Category:Basketball players by city or town though. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:54, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Involving countries[edit]

Propose renaming Category:Wars by country involved to Category:Wars involving countries
Propose renaming Category:Lists of wars by country involved to Category:Lists of wars involving countries
Propose renaming Category:Lists of wars by former country to Category:Lists of wars involving former countries
Propose renaming Category:Wars of the Middle Ages by former country to Category:Wars of the Middle Ages involving former countries
Propose renaming Category:Battles by country involved to Category:Battles involving countries
Propose renaming Category:Battles by former country involved to Category:Battles involving former countries
Propose renaming Category:Sieges by country involved to Category:Sieges involving countries
Propose renaming Category:Sieges by former country involved to Category:Sieges involving former countries
Propose renaming Category:Naval battles by country involved to Category:Naval battles involving countries
Propose renaming Category:Naval battles by former country involved to Category:Naval battles involving former countries

Nominator's rationale: Consistency with Category:Wars involving former countries and similarly-named categories of non-state actors (e.g. Category:Battles involving peoples, Category:Wars involving peoples; supranational organisations like Category:Peacekeeping missions and operations involving the United Nations; rebel groups like Category:Military operations involving the al-Nusra Front; alliances like Category:Wars involving NATO and Category:Military operations involving the Warsaw Pact, etc.), and to avoid confusion with "countries formerly involved in war X". Follow-up to preliminary discussion Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 22#Involving former countries or by former country involved, where it was found best to let go of the "by country involved" formula as the de facto standard. NLeeuw (talk) 08:57, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Marcocapelle: courtesy ping for follow-up discussion. Good day. NLeeuw (talk) 09:13, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The two discussions should obviously be closed the same way. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:25, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
With the previous discussion closed as Withdrawn (as planned), can you now support my proposal? NLeeuw (talk) 14:41, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Rename for consistency with Category:Wars involving former countries and Category:Wars involving peoples. That is, I would equally support a reverse rename of Category:Wars involving former countries and Category:Wars involving peoples instead of the above but that is not currently being proposed. My point is just to make it more consistent. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:46, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Saipan[edit]

Propose renaming Category:Saipan to Category:Saipan, Northern Mariana Islands

Nominator's rationale: To match the article name, which was just changed because of recent consensus that WP:USPLACE applies to U.S. territories. -- Beland (talk) 06:47, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:USPLACE does not apply to islands, does it? Besides articles about towns on Saipan are formatted as "town, Saipan", not as "town, Northern Mariana Islands". Marcocapelle (talk) 06:48, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Tinian[edit]

Propose renaming Category:Tinian to Category:Tinian, Northern Mariana Islands

Nominator's rationale: To match article name, which was changed per recent consensus that WP:USPLACE applies to U.S. territories. -- Beland (talk) 06:26, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:USPLACE does not apply to islands, does it? Marcocapelle (talk) 06:51, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Marcocapelle, I believe it does. See Category:San Juan, Puerto Rico and Category:Hagåtña, Guam. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:13, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That said Pago Pago, American Samoa and Category:Pago Pago don't match either. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:19, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Rota (island)[edit]

Propose renaming Category:Rota (island) to Category:Rota, Northern Mariana Islands

Nominator's rationale: To match article name - moved due to recent consensus that WP:USPLACE covers U.S. territories. -- Beland (talk) 06:17, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:USPLACE does not apply to islands, does it? Marcocapelle (talk) 06:51, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Heliports in Massachusetts[edit]

Propose merging Category:Heliports in Massachusetts to Category:Heliports in the United States

Nominator's rationale: Category lacks subjects. Let'srun (talk) 19:41, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Upmerge for now without prejudice per nom. NLeeuw (talk) 06:19, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, one article is already in Category:Military heliports in the United States and the other article does not belong in a Heliports category. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:04, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @Let'srun and Nederlandse Leeuw: thoughts on straight-up deletion? House Blaster (talk · he/him) 01:52, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Massachusetts General Hospital has a helipad. Helipad is in Category:Heliports, so I've got to disagree with Marcocapelle on that one. What we could do is Purge Camp Edwards Heliport first, and then Upmerge the hospital as proposed. NLeeuw (talk) 06:21, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Administrative divisions of the United States by state[edit]

Propose renaming Category:Administrative divisions of the United States by state to Category:Administrative divisions of the United States by state and territory

Nominator's rationale: It contains pages and subcategories for US territories, and there is no Category:Administrative divisions of the United States by territory or Category:Administrative divisions in United States insular areas or similar that I could find. Which would contain only a small number of pages and subcategories. -- Beland (talk) 02:52, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Women portrait painters[edit]

Propose splitting Category:Women portrait painters to Category:Women painters and Category:Portrait painters

Nominator's rationale: Dual merge for non-defining intersection of gender+type of artist+subject matter of the artist under WP:EGRS Mason (talk) 01:45, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dual merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:55, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Plurisexual people[edit]

Propose merging Category:Plurisexual people to Category:LGBT people

Nominator's rationale: I hate to be that person, but... neither of the two people added to the category have the word plurisexual mentioned anywhere on their pages. Is this really a defining category for individuals, under WP:EGRS? Because it effectively seems like its extremely similar to this CFD for Polysexuality Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_February_26#Polysexuality. I've always thought of it as an umbrella term to allow for the grouping of queer, bi, and pansexual people, rather than a term that is used to describe individual people. [23] [24] If the category is kept, I think it should be containerized. Mason (talk) 00:23, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:55, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom. The two articles can be purged if only because they are already in the tree of Category:LGBT people by nationality. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:58, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. NLeeuw (talk) 17:29, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirects[edit]

EMBO journal & reports[edit]

EMBO journal & reports → The EMBO Journal (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

XY redirect. The subject is The EMBO Journal or EMBO Reports, not both. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 22:07, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

HD resolution[edit]

HD resolution → 16:9 aspect ratio (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

The aspect ratio is not itself "HD", this is misleading and confusing. I'm not sure where this redirect should lead, maybe High-definition television? Leaving that up to people with a better understanding of the area than me. Rusalkii (talk) 21:21, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Same-sex marriage in Tenerife[edit]

Same-sex marriage in Tenerife → Same-sex marriage in Spain (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Tenerife not mentioned in target. No reason to believe it is different from the rest of Spain. Rusalkii (talk) 21:11, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Same-sex marriage in Aland[edit]

Same-sex marriage in Aland → Same-sex marriage in Finland (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Alad not mentioned in target, I can't see any reason why it should be called out or why someone would expect same-sex marriage in Aland to be governed by different rules than the rest of Finland. Rusalkii (talk) 21:09, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you wanna make the world a better place, take a look at yourself and make a change[edit]

If you wanna make the world a better place, take a look at yourself and make a change → Man in the Mirror (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Lyric from the song not mentioned in target. Rusalkii (talk) 20:34, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Toggle the table of contents Scottish Westminster constituencies 2005 to 2024[edit]

Toggle the table of contents Scottish Westminster constituencies 2005 to 2024 → Scottish Westminster constituencies 2005 to 2024 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Redirect from a move to Scottish Westminster constituencies 2005 to 2024; this preceding title was an obvious mistake. Ham II (talk) 14:13, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: "Toggle the table of contents" is obviously a copy-paste error. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 14:22, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete as G6: "Deleting pages unambiguously created in error or in the incorrect namespace, or redirects created by moving away from a title that was obviously unintended." as it existed at the mistaken name for less than a minute just a few days ago. (!voting here since I'm not a huge fan of tagging RFDs with speedy tags unless it's for a good reason). Skynxnex (talk) 14:24, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tagore (name) (disambiguation)[edit]

Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 October 14 § INTDABLINK of redirects from incomplete disambiguation – no consensus

Tagore (name) (disambiguation) → Tagore (disambiguation) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

With the lengthy list of name-holders now moved from Tagore (disambiguation) to Tagore (name), this doubly-disambiguated redirect should be deleted as confusing. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:03, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:25, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gastrosexual[edit]

Gastrosexual → Metrosexual (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Gastrosexuality → Metrosexual (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not mentioned. Retarget to wikt:gastrosexual if there's no mention anywhere else. --MikutoH ^talk! 04:51, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Soft redirect Gastrosexual to wikt, and delete Gastrosexuality. Not mentioned anywhere in enwiki. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:50, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Gastrosexuality existed as its own page before, though the correct term is gastrosexual because it's named in reference to lifestyles like lumbersexual, spornosexual, retrosexual, cosmosexual, frustrosexual, megasexual, ubersexual, ultrasexual, macrosexual, cinesexual, machosexual, and many others. --MikutoH ^talk! 19:27, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Argyle station (Ontario)[edit]

Argyle station (Ontario) → Kawartha Lakes (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

There's no indication of why this redirects here Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:24, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Doctors (Doctor Who)[edit]

The Doctors (Doctor Who) → Twice Upon a Time (Doctor Who) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Propose a disambiguation: While the episode was planned to be named "The Doctors," the redirect could potentially also mean any multi-Doctor episode due to its vague naming. I feel a disambiguation would clear up confusion with this redirect. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 02:11, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. @Pokelego999: Which articles might otherwsie be called "The Doctors" (because a disambiguation page is a list of such articles)? Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:11, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Likely other multi-Doctor stories (Namely things like The Three Doctors (Doctor Who), The Two Doctors, and the The Five Doctors, though there are more.) Many of them have similar titles to this one, and have a highly similar concept that could cause confusion. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 16:42, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Boston Incident[edit]

Boston Incident → Boston Massacre (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

This isn't commonly referred to as "Boston incident"; searching the term finds little about the massacre compared to other incidents (such as the 2007 Boston Mooninite panic). In the cases where the massacre is referred to with this term, it's only in a descriptive fashion and not as an actual name. Redirect was created by a quickly-reverted WP:POINTy page move in 2006. Elli (talk | contribs) 02:43, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete one would think the Boston Tea Party or Battle of Bunker Hill would be better -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 03:08, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep - although it seems ambiguous (my first thought was the Boston Marathon bombing) the article on the Boston Massacre notes in the lede that the event is also known as the "Incident on King Street"; "Boston incident" is a plausible misremembering. It's a more neutral title anyway, the article also notes in the lede that calling it a "massacre" was American patriot propaganda. As far as I can tell, the other events listed here aren't widely known as named "incidents". If deleted then don't disambiguate, search results would handle this better. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 14:27, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep per Ivan. Queen of ♡ | Speak 20:30, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I can't find a primary topic. GScholar results, for example, are split primarily between the current target and the Boston Marathon bombing. When referring to the current target, they seem to be mainly quoting from primary sources. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:15, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete seems to ambiguous/generic. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:22, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Seems more specific to the massacre than the bombing. PARAKANYAA (talk) 14:57, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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2023-24 Major Clubs Limited Over Tournament[edit]

2023-24 Major Clubs Limited Over Tournament → Major Clubs Limited Over Tournament (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

2023–24 Major Clubs Limited Over Tournament → Major Clubs Limited Over Tournament (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Delete to encourage article creation, consistent with 2022–23 Major Clubs Limited Over Tournament. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:02, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Pretty common for these types of redirects to exist and there's nothing stopping someone from starting an article. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:35, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Hey man im josh and the clear fact that this is a future rdr to a title with en-dash(es), like the 2023-24 FA Cup. By the way, the redlinked title the nominator brought up is to me what happens when info on this exist(s) at that/the time and is/are not documented here with sourcing. Just like the 2023–24 Ghana FA Cup, 2023–24 Samartex F.C. season and the 2024 Absa Cup articles which I'll create soon. Intrisit (talk) 19:41, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete There is no information on the 2023–24 competition, so this is misleading and bound to disappoint readers. --BDD (talk) 23:45, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Fictional musical instruments[edit]

Category:Fictional musical instruments → Category:Fictional objects (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Misuse of category redirect. Merged per Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_November_14#Category:Fictional_musical_instruments. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 06:54, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@LaundryPizza03: How is it a misuse? jlwoodwa (talk) 23:24, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Iranian nuclear scientist killed[edit]

Iranian nuclear scientist killed → Assassination of Iranian nuclear scientists (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

the redirect is way too specific, and seems almost like a search engine query. Gaismagorm (talk) 20:26, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Looks fair enough to me, since there have apparently been five Iranian nuclear scientists killed. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:58, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ambisexual[edit]

Ambosexual → Ambisexual (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Ambisexuality → Ambisexuality (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Amphisexual → Amphisexual (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Since @Smasongarrison: commented in my talk page, ambisexual(ity) and bisexual(ity) are synonyms and it should be retargeted there, along with the others which are translations from Greek and Esperanto. --MikutoH ^talk! 00:50, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support in principle, but these should all be retargeted to bisexuality or an existing page, not a other redirects.Mason (talk) 00:54, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Muscle Shoals[edit]

Battle of Muscle Shoals → Battle of Decatur (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Muscle Shoals, Alabama is mentioned at target, but a battle there is not described. This does not seem to be a term in use. There is evidence for a skirmish at Mussel (sic) Shoals on October 30, 1864 1, but there is no content on enwiki about it and no evidence it is referred to as "Battle of Muscle Shoals". Delete to encourage article creation if notable and avoid confusion/astonishment. Mdewman6 (talk) 00:39, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Intersex man[edit]

Intersex man → Intersex (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Intersex woman → Woman#Intersex women (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Intersex women → Woman#Intersex women (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Shouldn't they have equivalent targets (Intersex man to Man#Sexuality and gender xor Intersex woman to Intersex) {xor meaning exclusive or}. --MikutoH ^talk! 00:06, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Templates and Modules[edit]

Template:2025 British & Irish Lions itinerary[edit]

Template:2025 British & Irish Lions itinerary (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No need for a template, was only being used on one page, templates will start to confuse things on the main article. LouisOrr27 (talk) 21:47, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Can't see any reason to use a template for this. Unless the creator can suggest another article where it might be used, there's really no need for it. – Pee Jay 21:48, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

FratChapter2 template set deletion[edit]

Template:FratChapter2 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:FratChapterStart2 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:FratChapterEnd2 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Fraternities and Sororities has agreed on a different standard for fraternity and sorority chapter lists that this template does not meet. Only the list for Phi Sigma Kappa, now at List of Phi Sigma Kappa chapters used it and that has been transformed. Other than myself, only two users have that template in their user pages and neither has edited in almost a decade. (Original author hasn't edited since 2008, but notified) Naraht (talk) 20:02, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:2023–24 Premiership Rugby table[edit]

Template:2023–24 Premiership Rugby table (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

There is no need for this to be in a template, all other premiership rugby articles exclude the template and this template was only used on the 2023–24 Premiership Rugby Page, also see Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2024 May 8 as this was deleted once before. LouisOrr27 (talk) 14:51, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Miscellany[edit]

Draft:Hungary-Croatia[edit]

Probable hoax; there is no record of this existing during that time period, and citations are nonexistent and likely AI-generated. JJP_{Mas_ter} (she/they) 19:53, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tagged for speedy deletion as a hoax, under G3. Much more than a probable hoax. A very obvious hoax. Such alternative-history creations are a topic of interest in corners of the internet, including reddit. The entire contents were probably "AI"-generated.—Alalch E. 20:14, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, no such settlement ever happened in 1846 (maybe try 22 years later with another Hungary-Croatia?). While Croatia and Hungary were already in a personal union before then, all the details in the article (including sources) are made up, with the most egregious probably being its dissolution in 1848 was largely peaceful and not due to revolution (really?) Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 20:23, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject TRIZ Ontology[edit]

Abandoned WikiProject whose sole participant was only active in October 2019, and has an extremely narrow scope (Category:TRIZ only has 8 articles). Xeroctic (talk) 19:18, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete abortive wikiproject of no historic value and any and all associated pages and templates.—Alalch E. 20:07, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:AtikaAtikawa/Userboxes/Antizionist[edit]

This is a very concerning userbox considering the recent events because Wikipedia has Israeli users. SpinnerLaserzthe2nd (talk) 02:56, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see how it is concerning, considering the userbox User:Mr A/Palestine is around and contains a similar wording. Furthermore, would you say the same about User:Brobbz/Zionist considering Wikipedia having Palestinian users? or Template:User_Support_Israel, User:Oren neu dag/my userboxes/User One-State Solution and User:Valley2city/Userboxes/User anti-disengagement that apparently call for expantionism? or even User:WaddlesJP13/Userbox/Otzma Yehudit and User:WaddlesJP13/Userbox/Religious Zionist Party which clearly manifest a support for far-right parties? I think that proceeding to delete this userbox - which again, I stand by it having nothing that goes against WP:UP - and leaving the ones I mentioned screams bias. [edited] — Yours Truly, ⚑ AtikaAtikawa 03:11, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is significantly more problematic than User:Mr A/Palestine, which clarifies what is meant. Which use of From the river to the sea is intended in this userbox? Delete, inflammatory. —Kusma (talk) 15:45, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. This userbox advocates for abolishment, elimination, destruction of the State of Israel and therefore extending the territory of the State of Palestine over all of its territory. As both Israel and Palestine are ethnocratic nation states in character, bringing all of the (then-former) Israelis under the rule of a state with a predominant Palestinian Arab character can not happen peacefully, and the Jews are a majority demographically on this territory so imposing a state that does not symbolically represent this majority, and only bears the ethnic character of the minority is an extremist fantasy, that is most commonly resolved by imagining mass expulsion, which is then justified by evil deeds of Israel.—Alalch E. 09:54, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've yet to see proofs that Palestine is ethnocratic in character. Rather it's just a secularised name of the land unlike "Israel", at least the name isn't considering that you can't say the same about Mandatory Palestine and that it was literally used by the early zionist organisations for example. Furthermore, stating the demographics of that land is weird, please keep in mind that there are a lot of Palestinians who are expulsed from it and still bear the right to return. — Yours Truly, ⚑ AtikaAtikawa 13:17, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This makes a lot of assumptions about what is meant by the template. It could be anything from a Palestinian ethnostate (bad) to a democratic, binational one-state solution bearing the historical name of "Palestine" (good). Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 20:18, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom and Alalch E. — Sundostund mppria ^{(talk / contribs)} 19:51, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per "user is not ECR", so we can skip the whole discussion about what is meant by "from the river to the sea" and avoid another inflammatory I/P debate. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 20:24, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:AtikaAtikawa/Userboxes/Anti-israeli apartheid[edit]

Considering the current circumstances, this userbox praises the violence against Israelis (especially those that had nothing to do with the conflict). This nomination is from a user who supports Palestinians rights who also believes that Israel can defend itself from Hamas. SpinnerLaserzthe2nd (talk) 02:53, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The userbox does not call for that nor does it even imply it. In fact the documentation of the userbox clarifies its meaning. It simply states that the Israeli apartheid is the main promoter for this violence. — Yours Truly, ⚑ AtikaAtikawa 02:59, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There are Israeli users you know and they do not take that sort of stuff very kindly. Do you know what happened when the Arabic Wikipedia put up a solidarity banner last year? SpinnerLaserzthe2nd (talk) 03:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see how content here should please everyone, especially on user pages, I'd even argue that this sounds like a WP:JUSTDONTLIKEIT. After all, there are many Anti-"something" userboxes which obviously make partisans of the "something" not very happy.

I'd love to know if there is some standard I broke when it comes to making userboxes, I am aware that Wikipedia:Userboxes/Politics by country/Palestine says at its top that "Before placing any of these userboxes on your userpage, please consider that many Wikipedians believe that the use of such userboxes runs contrary to the spirit of the guidance given at WP:USERPAGE, because they can be seen as being polemical", but it also says that "There is no requirement that you follow this recommendation, which has no official status" [edited]— Yours Truly, ⚑ AtikaAtikawa 03:19, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unironically good faithed question: What happened when the Arabic Wikipedia put up a solidarity banner last year? — Yours Truly, ⚑ AtikaAtikawa 03:26, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - I usually don't like to get involved in userbox disputes, especially political userbox disputes (but most of the userbox disputes at MFD are political), and I haven't agreed with anti-Israeli viewpoints until about two months ago, but this userbox not only is a reasonable statement of a viewpoint, but also acknowledges the tragic nature of escalation of violence. Robert McClenon (talk) 05:42, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete pro-terrorism userbox that propagandistically endorses Hamas' and other extremist groups' violence. Relativises real and large-scale atrocities and other crimes, terrorist acts and other acts against Israelis by presenting them as natural, just, and needed. You can excuse every evil in the world using this "logic".

—Alalch E. 09:19, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom and Alalch E. — Sundostund mppria ^{(talk / contribs)} 19:53, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per the user creating it not being ECR. However, I wouldn't go all the way as to call it "endorsing Hamas" as the userbox is very non-specific on what it means by "political violence", and the documentation page claims that It should not imply in any way that this user actively supports Palestinian political violence. On the other hand, I understand how the recent context might make it be interpreted like this.
I don't think the ongoing war can be summed up as something as simple as Israel can defend itself from Hamas like the nominator does (in this case, why couldn't one also say that Palestinians can defend themselves from Israel?), but I also don't think that is even relevant. While politically charged userboxen (including pro-Palestinian or pro-Israeli ones) are allowed, the point is moot as this one was created under violation of WP:ARBECR. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 20:14, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's not a law of nature for anyone to massacre anyone, and we are talking about massacres here. October 7 is also Palestinian political violence, the most pronounced recent episode thereof. If you open the Palestinian political violence § Israel-Hamas war you will see "On October 7, 2023, Hamas launched an attack, breaching the Gaza–Israel barrier ... Hamas fighters proceeded to massacre hundreds of civilians at a music festival and in kibbutz Be'eri ...". Humans have agency. Equating human behavior to a manifestation natural order means subjecting human behavior to some "highest order", to a "how things must be". In nature there are laws, there is order, and then it is postulated that in human affairs there is also order, and in the case of Palestine and Israel, this order is a dictum, an imperative to react against the apartheid ... by enacting massacres: the "naturally" imposed, necessary and unavoidable "reaction", just like Newton's laws of motion (linked from the userbox). That's what the userbox says, it goes beyond excusing massacres, it endorses massacres as an imperative of human behavior, which means that it is a moral imperative under the highest law, and this is exactly Hamas propaganda, it is exactly the ideology of October 7 and many other mass atrocities. The perpetrators may be culpable under a more mundane understanding of morality, but they are agents of the natural order of things, and they are the ones who sacrifice themselves to move history along to a natural order of human affairs. Under the same inhuman "logic", Israel cites the "moral imperative to destroy Hamas" to negate the existential threat, and the cycle of violence continues, which is the tragedy that User:Robert McClenon recognizes, but he didn't notice how the ideology imbued in and advertised via this infobox is the fuel of the tragedy.—Alalch E. 20:55, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion review[edit]

[1] ttps://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/art/2024/05/398_373562.html

[2] ttps://www.nme.com/news/music/newjeans-make-surprise-new-single-album-announcement-and-tease-2025-world-tour-3609684

[3] ttps://www.billboard.com/music/pop/newjeans-how-sweet-bubble-gum-stream-it-now-1235692150/

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