Category talk:Fiction about the Devil

Split
Wouldn't it be more apt to divide this in to categories such as "Satan/The Devil in literature" or "...in film" etc.? This is awfully messy, particularly when you use Wiki as a guide. 99.54.188.176 (talk) 00:57, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Proposed move

 * The discussion was closed as: Not renamed. – Fayenatic  L ondon 08:24, 30 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Category:The Devil in fiction to Category:Devil in fiction – C2D and WP:THE. Brandmeistertalk  22:06, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Category:The Devil in opera to Category:Devil in opera
 * Category:The Devil in classical music to Category:Devil in classical music
 * Object to CFDS speedy rename I think this should have a full discussion, especially since "devil" has many meanings, even in Christian contexts. Is this about The Devil (ie. Satan) or a devil (ie. demon)? The loss of "The" removes the capitalization and the selectiveness of the "the". In non-Abrahamic contexts, it gets worse, with some mythologies translating into different grades of Devil/devils/demons. And of course fiction already does that (just look at fantasy with Greater Devils and such) -- 70.51.45.100 (talk) 06:48, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
 * The common meaning is the supreme personification of evil (and/or Satan), that's why the devil redirects to devil, which is not a disambiguation page. This is also consistent with WP:COMMONNAME. Brandmeistertalk  08:17, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Our article at devil is not about "The Devil", that article is located at Satan. If the coverage of these categories are not about the personification of evil, or the evil creatures that are servants of evil (demons), then it should not lose "The". If it is for the Abrahamic derived concept, then it should use Satan and not devil. -- 70.51.45.100 (talk) 05:57, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. ☔️ Corkythe hornetfan  🌺 16:31, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
 * * Oppose – I don't see how this can be a speedy when the article is Satan and a parent category is Category:Satan. I would not oppose changing 'The Devil' to 'Satan' which does appear speediable. Oculi (talk) 11:31, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
 * * Oppose It barely makes sense, 'Devil' is either 'The Devil' (Satan/Lucifer etc), 'a devil' (demon/sprite etc) or 'devils' (plural). Pincrete (talk) 23:09, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
 * * Remane to Satan in fiction/opera/classical music on the grounds given by Oculi above. Aristophanes 68   (talk)  01:22, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment, 'The Devil' appears to be more frequently used than any alternatives (Satan/Lucifer etc.) in works of fiction/music etc. I agree with those saying 'Devil' is not clear and is not a proper noun without 'The'. Therefore, also oppose change to 'Satan in etc. What is the point of using the less frequently used name in the 'works' involved? Pincrete (talk) 21:49, 19 May 2016 (UTC)