Portal talk:Speculative fiction/Archive 1

Introducing the Speculative Fiction portal
Feel free to come help out with this portal. :-) nihon 02:36, 17 October 2005 (UTC)


 * To be honest mate, this portal serves very little purpose - it is quite good but it should be merged into one of the Culture-related portals if not Portal:Literature. Deano 21:34, 30 October 2005 (UTC)


 * It wouldn't work to merge into Portal:Literature since not all speculative fiction is literature, and it doesn't really qualify as a separate culture. --nihon 07:01, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

New Portal page added
Portal:Speculative fiction/Article announcements added. Ahasuerus 22:35, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Come comment on: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Differences in versions of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 21:00, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

New portal work
I'm working on creating a logo for the portal, but it will take a couple or three days for me to get to finishing it. I'm also working on creating all the pages needed for the portal to be up and running. Feel free to help if you wish. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 04:08, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Hello. As an editor who has long observed the stagnation of this portal, let me just thank you for all of the effort you're putting into this. I had long considered expanding the portal, but never took the initiative. All I ever did was create a portal pointer template. Now I'm glad; what you've just done has vastly outpaced any moderate alterations I would have attempted myself. Accolades aside now. I would like to suggest that featured material which do not have appropriate images, be accompanied with quote boxes. I also suggest that the blurbs for these featured articles be written so as to place emphasis with the connection to this portal, if their immediate connection is not obvious. Case in point, the article on Anarky. As a comic book character of the political fiction genre, the lead is focused on the character's political and philosophical elements. While these are obviously important, this ignores the science fiction sub genre the character is part of. I suggest a rewrite of the blurb. What say you? Worth while or unnecessary? --Cast (talk) 01:37, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the slow reply. If you want to work on the blurb rewriting and quote boxes, that would be awesome. My intent at the moment is to expand the content to be as comprehensive as possible. Once that's done, I'll go through and work on tweaking things. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 08:34, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Featured articles which could be added
 Featured articles	 Ace Books (Science fiction publishers) Featured articles	 Alien vs. Predator (film) (Ancient astronaut theory in fiction) Featured articles	 Arbiter (Halo) (Fictional extraterrestrial characters, Halo characters) Featured articles	 Backmasking (Mind control) Featured articles	 Batman (Fictional scientists) Featured articles	 Battlefield Earth (film) (2000s science fiction films, Films based on science fiction novels) Featured articles	 Bernard Quatermass (Fictional scientists, Quatermass, Science fiction characters) Featured articles	 BioShock (Biopunk, Dystopian fiction, Science fiction video games, Steampunk games) Featured articles	 Cartman Gets an Anal Probe (Alien abduction in popular culture) Featured articles	 Chrono Trigger (Time travel video games) Featured articles	 Cortana (Fictional artificial intelligences, Halo characters) Featured articles	 Dalek (Doctor Who races, Fictional cyborgs, Fictional mutants) Featured articles	 Doctor Who missing episodes (Doctor Who missing episodes) Featured articles	 E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1980s science fiction films) Featured articles	 Edgar Allan Poe (American science fiction writers) Featured articles	 F-Zero GX (F-Zero) Featured articles	 Fermi paradox (Extraterrestrial life) Featured articles	 Firefly (TV series) (Firefly (TV series)) Featured articles	 Flood (Halo) (Fictional extraterrestrial characters, Halo factions) Featured articles	 Frank Klepacki (Dune music) Featured articles	 Half-Life 2 (Dystopian fiction, Science fiction video games) Featured articles	 Half-Life 2: Episode One (Science fiction video games) Featured articles	 Halloween III: Season of the Witch (1980s science fiction films) Featured articles	 Halo: Combat Evolved (Halo games, Science fiction video games) Featured articles	 Halo: Contact Harvest (2000s science fiction novels, Halo novels) Featured articles	 Halo 2 (Halo games, Science fiction video games) Featured articles	 Halo 3 (Halo games, Science fiction video games) Featured articles	 Halo 3 Original Soundtrack (Halo music) Featured articles	 Halo Wars (Halo games, Science fiction video games) Featured articles	 Jabba the Hutt (Star Wars characters) Featured articles	 Jason Voorhees (Fictional cyborgs, Science fiction film characters) Featured articles	 Johannes Kepler (German science fiction writers) Featured articles	 Jurassic Park (film) (1990s science fiction films, Dinosaur films, Films based on science fiction novels) Featured articles	 Kingdom Hearts II (Tron video games) Featured articles	 Lost (TV series) (Time travel television series) Featured articles	 Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games (Sonic the Hedgehog games) Featured articles	 Mary Shelley (Science Fiction Hall of Fame) Featured articles	 Master Chief (Halo) (Fictional cyborgs, Halo characters) Featured articles	 Metroid Prime (Metroid Prime, Metroid games) Featured articles	 Metroid Prime 2: Echoes (Metroid Prime, Metroid games) Featured articles	 Metroid Prime 3: Corruption (Metroid Prime, Metroid games) Featured articles	 Nigel Kneale (Quatermass) Featured articles	 Palpatine (Star Wars characters) Featured articles	 Portal (video game) (Science fiction video games) Featured articles	 Quatermass II (Quatermass) Featured articles	 Quatermass and the Pit (Ancient astronaut theory in fiction, Quatermass) Featured articles	 Red vs. Blue (Time travel films) Featured articles	 Rudolph Cartier (Quatermass) Featured articles	 Shadow the Hedgehog (video game) (Sonic the Hedgehog games) Featured articles	 Smallville (season 1) (Lists of science fiction television series episodes) Featured articles	 StarCraft (Military science fiction, Science fiction video games) Featured articles	 StarCraft: Ghost (Science fiction video games) Featured articles	 Star Trek: First Contact (1990s science fiction films, Star Trek films, Time travel films) Featured articles	 Star Trek: The Motion Picture (1970s science fiction films, Star Trek films) Featured articles	 Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (1980s science fiction films, Star Trek films) Featured articles	 Star Trek III: The Search for Spock (1980s science fiction films, Star Trek films) Featured articles	 Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country (1990s science fiction films, Star Trek films) Featured articles	 Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope (1970s science fiction films) Featured articles	 Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back (1980s science fiction films) Featured articles	 Starship Troopers (Military science fiction, Science fiction novels) Featured articles	 Superman (Superman) Featured articles	 Superman (film series) (Science fiction films by series) Featured articles	 Sydney Newman (Doctor Who) Featured articles	 System Shock (Virtual reality in fiction) Featured articles	 The Halo Graphic Novel (Halo novels, Military science fiction comics) Featured articles	 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (Comic science fiction, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (radio series), Time travel novels) Featured articles	 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (radio series) (Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, Science fiction radio programs, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (radio series)) Featured articles	 The Illuminatus! Trilogy (Cthulhu Mythos novels, Prometheus Award winners, Science fiction book series) Featured articles	 The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (Shapeshifting in fiction, Time travel video games) Featured articles	 The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (Time travel video games) Featured articles	 The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons and Oracle of Ages (Time travel video games) Featured articles	 The Quatermass Experiment (Quatermass) Featured articles	 The Stolen Earth (The Sarah Jane Adventures, Torchwood) Featured articles	 The Time Traveler's Wife (Time travel novels) Featured articles	 ToeJam & Earl (Fictional extraterrestrial characters) Featured articles	 Tom Swift (Fictional scientists) Featured articles	 Transformers (film) (2000s science fiction films) Featured articles	 Transhumanism (Science fiction, Transhumanism) Featured articles	 Watchmen (Hugo Award winning works) Featured articles	 William Gibson (American science fiction writers, Canadian science fiction writers, Cyberpunk writers, Nebula Award winning authors)

 Featured articles	 Beyond Fantasy Fiction (Fantasy fiction magazines) Featured articles	 Captain Jack Sparrow (Fictional undead) Featured articles	 Carnivàle (Carnivàle, Fantasy television series) Featured articles	 Characters of Carnivàle (Carnivàle) Featured articles	 Characters of Final Fantasy VIII (Final Fantasy VIII, Final Fantasy characters) Featured articles	 Final Fantasy (Final Fantasy) Featured articles	 Final Fantasy IX (Final Fantasy games) Featured articles	 Final Fantasy Tactics (Final Fantasy Tactics, Final Fantasy games) Featured articles	 Final Fantasy VI (Final Fantasy VI, Final Fantasy games) Featured articles	 Final Fantasy VIII (Final Fantasy VIII, Final Fantasy games) Featured articles	 Final Fantasy X (Final Fantasy X, Final Fantasy games) Featured articles	 Final Fantasy X-2 (Final Fantasy X, Final Fantasy games, Final Fantasy spin-offs) Featured articles	 Final Fantasy XI (Final Fantasy games) Featured articles	 Final Fantasy XII (Final Fantasy games) Featured articles	 Flood (Halo) (Fictional undead) Featured articles	 Grim Fandango (Bangsian fantasy) Featured articles	 Honoré de Balzac (French fantasy writers) Featured articles	 Jason Voorhees (Fictional demons, Fictional undead) Featured articles	 Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell (Fantasy novels) Featured articles	 King Arthur (Arthurian characters, Knights of the Round Table) Featured articles	 Kingdom Hearts (Kingdom Hearts) Featured articles	 Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories (Kingdom Hearts) Featured articles	 Kingdom Hearts (video game) (Final Fantasy games, Kingdom Hearts) Featured articles	 Kingdom Hearts II (Kingdom Hearts) Featured articles	 La Peau de chagrin (Fantasy novels) Featured articles	 Madlax (Supernatural anime and manga) Featured articles	 Mana (series) (Mana series) Featured articles	 Mário de Andrade (Magic realism writers) Featured articles	 Planescape: Torment (Planescape) Featured articles	 Ravenloft (module) (Ravenloft) Featured articles	 Superman (Superman) Featured articles	 Superman (film series) (Fantasy films by series) Featured articles	 The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (Shapeshifting in fiction) Featured articles	 The Lord of the Rings (1978 film) (Films based on fantasy novels) Featured articles	 Tokyo Mew Mew (Magical girl anime and manga) Featured articles	 Vagrant Story (Fantasy video games)

 Featured articles	 Alien vs. Predator (film) (American horror films) Featured articles	 BioShock (Horror video games) Featured articles	 Bride of Frankenstein (1930s horror films, American horror films, Comedy horror films, Films based on horror novels, Frankenstein films, Science fiction horror films) Featured articles	 Cannibal Holocaust (1980s horror films, Cannibal films) Featured articles	 Cartman Gets an Anal Probe (Alien abduction in popular culture) Featured articles	 Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow (Castlevania games) Featured articles	 Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow (Castlevania games) Featured articles	 Devil May Cry (video game) (Horror video games) Featured articles	 Devil May Cry 2 (Horror video games) Featured articles	 Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening (Horror video games) Featured articles	 Edgar Allan Poe (American horror writers) Featured articles	 Gremlins 2: The New Batch (1990s horror films, Monster movies) Featured articles	 Halloween (1978 film) (1970s horror films, American horror films, Halloween (franchise), Slasher films) Featured articles	 Halloween II (1980s horror films, American horror films, Halloween (franchise), Slasher films) Featured articles	 Halloween III: Season of the Witch (1980s horror films, American horror films, Halloween (franchise), Science fiction horror films, Slasher films, Supernatural horror films) Featured articles	 Jason Voorhees (Friday the 13th characters, Horror film characters, Zombies and revenants in fiction) Featured articles	 Jurassic Park (film) (Giant monster films) Featured articles	 Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver (Legacy of Kain) Featured articles	 Mary Shelley (English horror writers) Featured articles	 Night of the Living Dead (1960s horror films, American horror films, Living Dead films, Science fiction horror films, Zombie films) Featured articles	 Silent Hill 4: The Room (Silent Hill games) Featured articles	 System Shock (System Shock) Featured articles	 Tenebrae (film) (1980s horror films, Italian horror films, Slasher films) Featured articles	 The Cat and the Canary (1927 film) (1920s horror films, American horror films, Comedy horror films, Haunted house films) Featured articles	 The Historian (Dracula in written fiction, Horror novels) Featured articles	 The Illuminatus! Trilogy (Cthulhu Mythos novels) Featured articles	 The Mummy (1999 film) (1990s horror films, Action horror films, American horror films) Featured articles	 The Pit and the Pendulum (1961 film) (1960s horror films, American horror films) Featured articles	 Treehouse of Horror (series) (Halloween television specials) Featured articles	 Vampire (Vampires, Vampirism) Featured articles	 Witchfinder General (film) (1960s horror films, British horror films, Films based on horror novels)

 Featured articles	 Edgar Allan Poe (American science fiction writers) Featured articles	 Johannes Kepler (German science fiction writers) Featured articles	 Mary Shelley (English science fiction writers) Featured articles	 Pattern Recognition (novel) (Novels by William Gibson) Featured articles	 William Gibson (American science fiction writers, Canadian science fiction writers, Cyberpunk writers, William Gibson)

Articles that are under Featured articles and under Fantasy writers:

 Featured articles	 Frank Klepacki (Dungeons & Dragons video game designers) Featured articles	 Honoré de Balzac (French fantasy writers) Featured articles	 J. K. Rowling (English fantasy writers) Featured articles	 J. R. R. Tolkien (English fantasy writers)

Articles that are under Featured articles and under Horror writers:

 Featured articles	 Edgar Allan Poe (American horror writers) Featured articles	 Mary Shelley (English horror writers)

Other
These are some other tables pointing to possible articles to be added:

Portal:Speculative fiction nominated to be featured portal
Portal:Speculative fiction is now a Featured portal candidate. Please come participate in the discussion here. Thank you for your time. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WikiProject Japan ! 08:02, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * It was promoted! Thanks to everyone who participated in the discussions and who helped improve the portal. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WikiProject Japan ! 19:13, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Links to other languages
Why does this page link to the German de:Portal:Science-Fiction? I thought a better translation for the English word "speculative fiction" would be "Phantastik" because this means fantasy AND science fiction (and much more). Furthermore, the German de:Portal:Phantastik does link to the English Portal:Speculative fiction. --Bücherfresser (talk) 11:36, 1 September 2010 (UTC) (I'm sorry if my English is bad, it's not my native language)
 * You are correct for the German one (and I've corrected it now). Speculative fiction covers science fiction, fantasy, horror, alternate history, and related topics. The French and Netherlands portals you linked to are specifically for fantasy (magic, supernatural, etc.) ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WikiProject Japan ! 16:56, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Portal and the Science Fiction template
The portal has a section which closely parallels the content of Template:Science fiction. I am planning to change this templates contents shortly, and want to alert editors here of the change, so they can decide if my changes should be reflected in the portal section or not (i am neutral on this right now, having just noticed this parallel)Mercurywoodrose (talk) 08:42, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Notice from the Portals WikiProject
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 * Talk to Nihonjoe & The Transhumanist I suggest using the following convenient portal automation system with this "switch" https://pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Fantastyka/Wybrany_artyku%C5%82&action=edit . It seems to me that it is optimal.--Yasnodark (talk) 15:19, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Categories about writers
Hello The Transhumanist, 日本穣, DragonflySixtyseven, BrownHairedGirl, Hu.--Yasnodark (talk) 13:02, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
 * User:BPK2, Ser Amantio di Nicolao, User:Paul A,  User: Jllm06  !  I want to hear your opinion about the category's entry & others about speculative fiction writers.--Yasnodark (talk) 13:12, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Problem with Main tab on portal page
The Main tab contains the text, "The play Hippolytus, narratively introduced by Aphrodite, is suspected to have displeased contemporary audiences of the day because it portrayed Phaedra as too lusty." Aside from my opinion that this does not belong in the third paragraph of an introduction, it is also, according to the Wikipedia article about the play (Hippolytus (play)), not true. I can see that this incorrect information has been pulled from the Speculative fiction page, and I have brought up the error on the talk page there, but I suggest that copying more than the intro from that page and putting it here is unwise, because:
 * There is no automatic link to update the text here when the text on the original page is updated
 * The "History" heading from the original page is missing here, making the jump from an intro to a paragraph-long discussion of Euripides rather confusing
 * The history of speculative fiction is really not the most important thing about it.

Ideally, someone would flesh out the intro on the original page, so that it provides more information about the qualifications for being included under the umbrella designation, why an umbrella designation was needed in this case, and basically more than just a list of the sub-genres that are included in it. Then that intro could be copied here and things would be much better.FideliaE (talk) 13:30, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

Proposal to delete all portals
The discussion is at Village pump (proposals). Voceditenore (talk) 15:54, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

"Portal:Harry Potter" listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Portal:Harry Potter. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:44, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

"Portal:The Prisoner" listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Portal:The Prisoner. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 07:00, 14 November 2019 (UTC)