Talk:1994–1996 United States broadcast television realignment

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Fairly OddParents Freak (Fairlyoddparents1234)  00:10, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

U.S. television network affiliate switches of 1994 → 1994 United States broadcast TV realignment – The reason why I am calling this move is that this article title seems to be the odd one out in the television industry realignment series. All of the other articles on similar cases (e.g. "2006 United States broadcast TV realignment") all use "realignment" in their name and this does not. Let me remind you that the events constituted more than just changing of affiliations. Many mergers and acquisitions occurred during these events, such as Fox/ New World and CBS/ Westinghouse. Let me remind you that this could be the largest single industry realignment ever. This is why I think this is a good idea to move this page to reflect the fact that this is more than just simple affiliation deals...

Fairly OddParents Freak (Fairlyoddparents1234)  01:55, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support for consistency. --BDD (talk) 18:00, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Does anyone have books on this?
I suggest we find books to refer to for this article, so we won't violate WP:OR. In the meantime, keep those edits rolling! Fairly OddParents Freak (Fairlyoddparents1234)  C 23:27, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

On the sex life of Rupert Murdoch
Saying he "lusted" after something isn't very NPOV, is it? 147.134.45.56 (talk) 16:20, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

The new fifth and sixth networks
Other than the fact that both networks launched during the switches and that both networks affiliated with some stations that were affected by this event, I don't see any connection with the subject of the article. Do any of you feel that this section should be eliminated? Freshh (talk) 20:33, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
 * A discussion about the UPN/ WB launches may be useful, since it discusses what happened to those former Fox stations that lost Fox to New World. Lets keep it. Though I see it can be trimmed. Fairly OddParents Freak (Fairlyoddparents1234) T &#124; C Member: WP:TVS  15:22, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Too much going on
There is an information density problem here.

There is so much information being presented, lots of "ironically" and ties to the present where they don't make sense, and so much information for the average reader that they get lost. Additionally, the article is very, very long.

A while back I started working on streamlining the article, but I abandoned it and it's probably mostly out of date. You can see it at User:Raymie/Big Switch.

Adding the UPN and WB situation to this article was a mistake; only in a few markets did it affect the Fox switches (e.g. Detroit, where WKBD turned down the Fox network). Raymie (t • c) 02:23, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Agreed. This article is over 17,000 words. That seems excessive. RobertM525 (talk) 23:54, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Proposed solution to length issue
I have just placed on my sandbox page a list of every station that changed affiliation as a direct result of the switches, as well as a list of outlets that were part of the holding companies Fox invested in that Fox chose not to include. The chart itself is a little ragged, but it's a good start toward what I hope will be a finished product acceptable to go into Wikipedia.

Another idea is for a realignment page covering the period between this realignment and the one in 2006. Content would include the affiliation changes for CBS in Jacksonville and NBC in the San Francisco Bay Area, how hundreds of independent stations joined two new networks en masse, and the switch of many Sinclair Broadcast Group stations from UPN to the WB. - Desmond Hobson (talk) 23:44, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

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Requested move 16 January 2019

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The result of the move request was: Moved in line with consensus on the date range. (closed by non-admin page mover)  SITH   (talk)   11:47, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

1994 United States broadcast TV realignment → 1994–96 United States broadcast TV realignment or 1994–97 United States broadcast TV realignment – The affiliation changes stemming from and including the Fox-New World agreement took place over the course of two to three years; as such, specifying a time span would be appropriate. Given that an additional affiliation changes related to a transaction stemming from the Fox-New World agreement took place in early 1997 (i.e., WJXX's sign-on and assumption of the ABC affiliation in Jacksonville, Florida from WJKS), "1994–97 United States broadcast TV realignment" may also be acceptable as a new title for the article. TVTonightOKC 15:24, 16 January 2019 (UTC) --Relisting. samee  converse  09:22, 29 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment: Per MOS:DATERANGE it should be 1994–1996.--Gonnym (talk) 18:27, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment reply: It should be noted that the United States network television schedules articles follow a date range along the lines of "1994–95". MOS:DATERANGE does permit the use of two-digit ending years "in certain topic areas if there is a very good reason, such as matching the established convention of reliable sources," so said style illustration might apply here. TVTonightOKC 00:25, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Procedural comment. I have closed a related discussion at Talk:Repercussions of the 1994 United States broadcast TV realignment as "no consensus", but if a consensus is reached in favor of a move here it would be fine to move that for purposes of consistency; it should really have been one multimove discussion from the start. Dekimasu よ! 20:39, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose the date range proposed per MOS:DATERANGE, neutral on the actual proposal. --Gonnym (talk) 10:48, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Support the move to 1994-1996. I agree with the rationale in the nomination, but the MOS is clear 1996 is to be used.  Calidum   15:50, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Support the move to 1994-1996. As for the comment in the section below, neutral on splitting the sections related to FOX Sports as a separate article. WAVY 10 Fan (talk) 19:07, 2 February 2019 (UTC)


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split fox sports-related stuff from this article
I've got it. maybe we should split everything that is related to fox sports from this article and turn it all into a new one. I know this has something to do with the realignment and I love sports too, but maybe the NFL's effect on these events can be separate so that if someone wants to read a specific topic without the article changing it to another one and then back and the reader doesn't remember what happened before, we could do that instead because I think this is going to be more reasonable for everyone. I also support the change of the name from 1994 to 1994-1996.2604:6000:130F:47A1:7896:33D5:2736:F2D0 (talk) 14:57, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

Requesting Oxford comma
There are certain instances in which the Oxford comma is not included, like in this: "(CBS, NBC, and ABC)". As such, the Oxford comma needs to be added in more of these sentences. --TheLennyGriffinFan1994 (talk) 04:22, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

The 1992 Northeast Wisconsin/Upper Michigan television affiliation switch
Has anyone on Wikipedia thought about creating an article on the 1992 affiliation switch that has affected both the Green Bay, Wisconsin and Marquette, Michigan markets simultaneously back in 1992?

Here's a table I created for the article: