Talk:2006 Thai interim civilian government

Page title
This title seems both premature and POV - it is a matter of opinion, yet to be demonstrated one way or the other, that a government which doesn't exist yet is "under military control." Maybe it will be, but the title of the article cannot presume that. Adam 05:58, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree. A better title would be Thailand 2006 interim civilian government. In addition to your reasons, the current name is just unnecessarily long and awkward. Any objections to it being moved? LittleDan talk 21:36, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

well, it will be interim, it will be under control of the CRDM, it in thailand and in 2006 I don't see that there is a POV here but I don't mind having it called Thailand 2006 interim civilian governmentRoger jg 04:42, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Selection process
Do we need to mentionn those approached in the case of government ministry? I am in favour not to Roger jg 13:19, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Reference Sonakul
I don't think there is a need to reference the economic knowledge of Sonakul, he was a technocrat at the Finance Ministry and Bank of Thailand and previously served as the permanent secretary for finance. That's should be enough to justify his economic knwoledge. Roger jg 02:45, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Advisory council works for CDR, not civilian government
The junta established the advisory council to advise the junta, not to advise the upcoming civilian government. Thus the entire "Councils" section should be moved to the CDR article. If no disagreements, I'll do the move in 24 hours. Patiwat 05:55, 28 September 2006 (UTC)


 * approved Roger jg 09:49, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Draft interim charter doesn't belong here
The draft interim charter doesn't belong here. The interim civilian government doesn't exist yet, and even when it does, it will not have any authority over the interim charter. The junta has sole authority to push the interim charter from drafting to promulgation. The interim civ government will just have to live with it. The civ government will also not have any authority over the drafting of the permanent constitution - that will be the job of the junta and the constitution drafting assembly that it appoints. Any discussion of the constitution should therefore be handled in either Constitution of Thailand or CDR. Patiwat 09:45, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Ok to move it.

I don't undertsand your change in this section:


 * The Judicial Commission chaired by Supreme Court President Charnchai Likhitchittha approved Wednesday 27 Septembre the promotion of Jaral Pakdeekul secretary-general of the Supreme Court president to become the permanent secretary for Justice Ministry. Jaral would replace Jarupong Ruangsuwan, who retires at the end of this month and will need to be officaly appointed by the next prime minister before starting working in his new position. Previous Justice Ministry Permanent Secretary Somchai Wongsawat, brother-in-law of Thaksin Shinawatra, was arrested after the coup and is being detained by the Army.

The previous Justice Ministry Permanent Secretary was Jarupong Ruangsuwan who is retiring according to the ref? Roger jg 09:48, 28 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for pointing that out. He was Labor, not Justice. Patiwat 10:33, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

The PM vs. the government : where to put content?
Should major policies and controversies of the next interim government be covered in this page or in the page of the PM (whoever that might be)? This was a bit of a controversy in the Thaksin Shinawatra article. It ended up having lots of meaty detail about Thaksin's key policies, their impact, and the controversies that erupted. Unfortunately, it made the page quite long. Even when things were summarized and the original content put into a Policies of the Thaksin government article, the main biographical article was still quite heavy. On the other hand, if you put most of the meat in an article devoted to the government, the biographical page ends up being quite empty; after all, a politician's job is to create policies and manage controversy. Suggestions? Patiwat 10:43, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Why don't you wait and see what happens? - this whole article seems rather premature to me. Also, the prenominal "MR" should not be used without explanation. Is it not usually translated as prince? Adam 01:17, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Added link. But MRW hasn't been translated to Prince in modern times.  Kukrit and Seni Pramoj, the most prominent MRW's for the past 50 years, were never called Prince, to my knowledge.  Besides, MRW's are considered commoners, not royalty. Patiwat 01:35, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

dab header way too long
Can we shorten it? John Riemann Soong 22:06, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I rather like it. For someone who has only knows that there's been a coup in Thailand and who knows little else (like me!), it's a great way to point the reader in the right direction. It helps direct the uninformed reader without dumbing things down, so I'd "vote" for keeping it. -- Zantastik  talk  23:05, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

I know it is longer than usual, but the scope of this article was somewhat ambiguous. A few days ago, a significant portion of the article's content was a list of the advisors of the junta, which has nothing to do with the civilian government. Another large chunk of content concerned the draft interim charter, which was a creation of the junta, not the civilian government. Likewise, the civilian government will have to enforce the executive decrees of the junta, which were created announced right after the coup. Upfront disambiguation is neccesary. Patiwat 01:11, 2 October 2006 (UTC)


 * It's still pretty lengthy, but I at least removed the grammatical/wikilink redundancies. 72.232.185.186 19:07, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
 * On 2nd thought, I decided to remove the dab and rewrite the intro instead. 72.232.185.186 20:21, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

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