Talk:2009 Liberal Party of Canada leadership election

Crystal Balling??
Not to be a party pooper; but, aren't we jumping the gun with the creation of this article? GoodDay (talk) 21:06, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

John McCallum
Has anyone heard anything about whether or not Mr McCallum will be running in the leadership convention? Uniqueuponhim (talk) 19:09, 27 October 2008 (UTC)


 * No, he was a leading candidate to be interm leader until Dion announced he would stay on until a new leader is chosen. McCallum will not be running.(Mr. No Funny Nickname (talk) 21:34, 27 October 2008 (UTC))

Cancellation?
What happens with this page if Dion becomes prime minister on december 8 and decides to stay on? the whole idea was absurd until like an hour ago. Ericl (talk) 20:53, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
 * The article will be updated to reflect whatever happens when it actually happens. There is to be no speculation in the meantime about what might happen. Bearcat (talk) 21:56, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

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Location/timing & politics of same
More than one columnist - though few if any in Canwest papers - commented on the curious choice of timing and location for the convention; two weeks before the pre-scheduled British Columbia general election, and the noticeable lack of participation by anyone of note from the BC Liberals (especially the Premier); one columnist as I remember said it was like here was a cordon sanitaire around the convention, another joked about barbed wire; also of note were other comments that the convention was being held in the new Vancouver Convention Centre, which is one of the Premier's most loudly-bragged but most-cost-overrun projects (twice the cost overruns of the Fast Ferries), which makes it even more "odd" that the BC Liberal Party and federal Liberal Party basically avoided each other all week; it's not odd if you understand British Columbia politics and the volatility of the British Columbia polity; being seen with Campbell could lose Ignatieff support from his natural constituency, which in BC includes NDP supporters; being seen with Ignatieff would lose Campbell support from the many Tory/Reform members and MLAs within his ranks - and hte many Martinites within the BC Liberals; and to speak on any provincial issue would cost Ignatieff and the federal Liberals as "interference in British Columbia politics". Most of this is citable as commentary, it's not original research at all; I can't recall just now which columnists it was, if I come across coverage I'll be back and add some. In no other province but Quebec could this happen; a federal NDP, Tory or Liberal leadership convention held during a provincial general election would not have been so isolated in any of the other eight provinces......but book such a convention in "hostile teritory" in what was known long in advance to be election season in British Columbia strikes me as an organizational gaffe of the first order, and was only solved by ignoring it, and each other, altogether.Skookum1 (talk) 02:34, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Dion's departure
Dion didn't step down as party leader, 'cus his party lost the 2008 general election. He offered his resignation after his performance in the 2008-09 Parliamentary events. GoodDay (talk) 17:07, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Update: I've made the appropiate changes. GoodDay (talk) 17:11, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Dion announced on October 20 2008 that he would resign but remain as leader, but that he would stay on as leader until a new leader was chosen at the convention. What I think you're confusing is that Dion stepped down as leader after the 2008-09 Parliamentary events, prompting the selection of an interm leader.Mr. No Funny Nickname (talk) 17:33, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I need a source on that, as I don't trust me memory. GoodDay (talk) 17:45, 16 December 2009 (UTC)


 * I peaked at CBC site, you're correct. His resignation was originally scheduled to take effect at the 2009 leadership convention. GoodDay (talk) 17:49, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Temporal update
There are countless uses of present and future tenses throughout the article which need updating to the past tense.....Skookum1 (talk) 14:48, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Timing again

 * ''The party's national executive met on November 8, 2008, to set rules for the contest, and chose a date and location for the convention. A biennial and leadership convention was held in Vancouver, British Columbia from April 30-May 3, 2009, with the new leader being chosen on May 2

In other words, they deliberately set this convention 2 weeks before what they knew would be a hotly-contested British Columbia provincial election; while the provincial and federal parties are scarcely allies and, well, are barely on speaking terms (in public; their organizers and p.r. people are ofgten shared in common, among other connections, ranging from Mark Marissen and Patrick Kinsella to Dave Basi et al.), there's a given that the promotional nature of a a leadership-cum-coronation convention for a party of teh same name could influence electors, particularly new voters, who are unaware of the deep rift between the two party machines; I have yet to see even an op-ed column about the "curious" timing, but it must be out there somewhere (i.e. to use as a cite); though there were op-eds about the cordon sanitaire around the convention (i.e. the wide berth given by notable provincial Liberals from their federal counterparts). "Maybe" they stayed away from each other to avoid influencing the election....but if so, why did the federal party choose this location (with all its scandalous cost-overruns) instead of choosing to hold this convention in another province which wasn't having an election campaign? The mainstream media avoided the topic(s), so looking to them for such cites is useless, but it's a fairly obvious logic that the timing and location were deliberate.....I really wish this country didn't operate with blinkers on, but it does....Skookum1 (talk) 14:48, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

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LeBlanc & Rae candidacies
There seems to be some confusion as to wether LeBlanc & Rae were candidates for the leadership (for May 2009), or the interim leadership (for December 2008). So which, was it? GoodDay (talk) 08:45, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

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