Talk:2010 Grand Prix motorcycle racing season

Moto2
Will the 250s be replaced by a 600cc four-stroke class for 2010?--MartinUK (talk) 13:42, 10 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes. BTW, now that Moto2 bikes will have four-stroke engines, will they be allowed to race in Laguna Seca? --190.135.55.130 (talk) 18:14, 5 July 2009 (UTC)


 * There is still a degree of debate as to why they haven't raced there in the past; the 2-stroke issue isn't a certainty as I understand it. Anyway, it's up to the oranisers and Dorna to reach an agreement, as there are other races that would have to give way, which might not suit the advertisers etc. Ged  UK  19:50, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Position vs. points in the results
For the sake of clarity and portability, I propose using the number of points earned per round, rather than position, in the results table. In other words, if a rider finishes first, the number in the box should be "25", not "1", especially since the last column is the total number of points.--Rubber Nipple Salesman (talk) 19:13, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I would have thought that makes it less clear. The table is really to show race results, not points scored; your way round would mean someone unfamiliar would have to look at a different table to work out where someone finished. To be honest, I think I'd have to look at the table to see where someone with 7 points actually finished. Ged  UK  19:48, 10 November 200

The Moto2 Honda engines are preparated by Geo technologies, not by Ten Kate!

Aprilia Moto2 withdrawl
Aprilia have reversed their former commitment to Moto2, leaving five teams without a confirmed bike. Thus, the entry list could change heavily. The article probably needs to reflect this.--MartinUK (talk) 00:00, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Results Table Suggestion
Wouldn't using the results legend template (key) at the top of the results sheet free up more space? The results legend alongside the results table is taking up space that could be used for information such as the full team name and bike model rather than just the bike brand.Orsoni (talk) 12:45, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Full bike information is better listed elsewhere than the results matrix. Just the brand actually tells quite a lot. How many instances currently are there where a manufacturer is fielding more than one model of bike? --Falcadore (talk) 17:32, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Many editors state that motor racing articles can be too long. I'm wondering if the information can be condensed by using a key, rather than using valuable space. The results legend is repeated for Moto2 and 125cc. It seems we could somehow manage the space better. I don't know why the reader should be made to search details elsewhere in the article, when it could be presented in a more concise manner. As an encylopedia article, the details should be presented in a manner suited for readers who know nothing about the subject. I'm not complaining, just offering constructive criticism. An example:

MotoGP
(key) {| Orsoni (talk) 04:42, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

I agree that the legend to the side of the article really does take up space that could be better used, but im not sure that the team name is that important, and could cause other problems. an example would be, ridersmotorcycles.com ducati a BSB example i know but this would cause the table to be over long in that column thus wasting the space you had free'd up by getting rid of the legend. Also just a comment on the table do the names of the countries really need to be there? i would of thought the flagicons would do a good enough job of depicting where the rider is from. If i could make a point that within both the BSB articles and the world superbike articles, unlike these moto gp article the support classes are not covered by the same article. and wondered if these articles should include that information in the same way that the moto gp articles do? I brought it up on the wiki project page. Cheers Xrateddan (talk) 22:04, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Orsoni frankly your table looks completely awkward. We already have a section "participants" which explains in detail for which team the riders compete and what model of the bike do they ride. Not to mention the flags already indicate the nationality of the riders, no need to have "Spain", "Italy", "Germany" etc in the table. Dr. Loosmark 22:12, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
 * My suggestion was meant to shorten the length of the article by combining tables. A participants section seems superflous to me, when the information can be combined into one section. Currently, if a reader clicks on the Wikilink under the BIKE category, they are taken to the article about the manufacturer, rather than to the article about the actual race bike. In my suggestion, all the information is there in one concise format. Another point is that, some readers may not know the difference between the French flag and the Netherlands flag, let alone the flag of San Marino. I think one of biggest drawbacks of the Formula 1 season articles are their excessive length, making it a bit of a nightmare for readers. I believe we should strive to make the articles reader friendly. My comments aren't an arguement for change, merely suggestions in the form of constructive criticism.Orsoni (talk) 06:00, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Another thing - the team column actually isn't representative. The constents of the team column seems to be Sponsor-Constructor and in no way links to any articles of motorcycle racing teams. That needs a fix just on its own. --Falcadore (talk) 06:06, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Good point regarding the TEAM links. Articles on MotoGP teams have only started to appear in the past year or so, which is why my version failed to link to those articles.Orsoni (talk) 06:18, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Replacement rider or not?
Mattia Pasini didn't race at Catalunya and Yusuke Teshima took his spot. Should he be classified as replacement rider or not? This file doesn't include Pasini in the entry list, however it includes Stefan Bradl, Axel Pons and Yannick Guerra, who all missed the race due to injuries, and their replacements (Cardus, Morales and Simeon) are shown specifically, which is not the case with Teshima, who is listed as regular rider here. BleuDXXXIV (talk) 10:11, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Pasini has been fired by the team and replaced with Yusuke Teshima, so i guess that Yusuke is technically a replacement rider having taken over the seat from Pasini as far as i know watching the coverage on eurosport it was mentioned several times, where as the other riders you mentioned were replaced because they were injured. Hope that helps Xrateddan (talk) 19:18, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Moto2/125cc round numbering
I have proposed a change to the round numbering in the Moto2/125cc/Moto3 Participants tables in the 2010, 2011 and 2012 season summary articles. You are welcome to express any views you may have on the subject at the centralised discussion. Thanks. DH85868993 (talk) 07:22, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

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