Talk:2014 Winter Olympics/Archive 2

Judging controversy
There is reporting of an alleged vote swap between US and Russian judges in, you guessed it, figure skating. This came up on a related skater's page, and I wrote up the following paragraph for inclusion. On reflection however, our policy on biographies and the general rule of relevance suggest they shouldn't be there, so could someone who understands the parent/child structure of the articles here drop this in the appropriate place?--Tznkai (talk) 18:31, 8 February 2014 (UTC) "French sports newspaper L'Équipe, quoting an anonymous Russian coach, alleged that Russia and the United States would swap votes, with the United States voting for Russian athletes in pairs figure skating and team events and Russia voting for the Americans in ice dancing. The allegations were categorically denied by U.S. Figure Skating."


 * Concur - should be included in the article → www.canada.com --IIIraute (talk) 18:39, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Maybe Concerns and controversies at the 2014 Winter Olympics? Sportfan5000 (talk) 18:46, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I would hold off until more and further information comes out. These kind of allegations about shoddy judging, rumours of collusion, and anonymous allegations are sadly all too common around the Olympics.  If a specific, i.e. named, coach came out and said it, it would hold much more weight, but for now its simply "anonymous," and for all we know could simply be a journalist or a paper trying to make a name (and it wouldn't be the first time).   (For all we know this could simply be the French trying to get back at Russia/USA over the judging scandal in 2002.  "French Judge" is still a relatively common term for a corrupt judge in some part ;).  Ravendrop 19:29, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I agree, but, and the but here is that while in my editorial judgement, I wouldn't have run the article in my newspaper as news (but fobbed it off on the guy/gal on Olympic blogger duty), several reasonably reputable outfits did report on it. Thus far, there is a newsworthy allegation and a denial. I don't feel too strongly about it, but I'd frankly rather a neutrally written paragraph be inserted now than fighting fires against the more inflammatory versions likely to come.--Tznkai (talk) 19:40, 8 February 2014 (UTC)


 * An allegation and a denial, in a sport where such dramas are ridiculously frequent, simply DO NOT meet Wikipedia's standards. HiLo48 (talk) 21:22, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Care to unpack that a little? It doesn't seem self evident to me, and the fact of noteworthy allegation isverifiable through multiple reliable sources. I mean, I also don't think that, say, politicians having sex with people not their spouses is worthy of paying attention to, but that choice is taken out of my hand. Wikipedia needs to reflect what the world cares about more than it dictates what we care about. I would pleased to have clear policy direction telling me not to include it, I honestly would.--Tznkai (talk) 04:31, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
 * As the very first post suggests, it was almost inevitable that a judging dispute would occur in figure skating. They happen all the time. It's simply not notable. We can make these judgements. HiLo48 (talk) 04:38, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure, but the Olympics themselves are also equally inevitable, inevitability doesn't really help us as a guide.--Tznkai (talk) 05:11, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
 * To expand slightly, in my judgement, this whole thing is dumb and no one ought to pay attention to judging disputes in figure skating until they are substantiated. Also in my judgement, it is encyclopedic and ought to be included as a thing that happened and people chose to care about.--Tznkai (talk) 05:13, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Since this is sounding like a conspiracy theory, I think that this would fall within and could be covered as such on the article.  --Super Goku V (talk) 20:55, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Looking at the sources, I'd include both the allegation and the denial. They are both sourced. It does not matter whether is a hoax from L'Equipe or not - It's an allegation after all, which does not imply its correctness. Zhaofeng Li [ talk... contribs... ] 02:51, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
 * And I support including it in Concerns and controversies at the 2014 Winter Olympics, since it's the most relevant place. Zhaofeng Li [ talk... contribs... ] 02:58, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
 * , Would you like to describe, that why you have removed Security threats? Telegraph is not a rumor site.  Occult Zone  ( Talk ) 03:08, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Are you sure about that? Anyway, find substantial and multiple sources discussing the issue please. Volunteer Marek (talk) 03:31, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I cannot assure, but I can find few sources.,, .  Occult Zone  ( Talk ) 03:54, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Circassians/Krasnaya Polyana
I removed the section about "Red Hill" (sic) but mostly just because it was badly written and cited to an unreliable/low quality source. I have no objection to restoring the info with better grammar and a reliable source (like maybe this ).Volunteer Marek (talk) 05:10, 10 February 2014 (UTC)


 * ✅.--Yalens (talk) 20:27, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Copied and pasted information
I noticed that pretty much the entire Security section was copy/pasted snippets from the news articles it cites. I trimmed it down and re-wrote it, but I think we need to run some scans on the rest of the article. ViperSnake151  Talk  20:50, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Sharemap
What is this weblink to the interactive map from sharemap about? Why is it linked and why in a way it looks like that the link leads to another wikipedia article? --Pustekuchen2014 (talk) 13:21, 9 February 2014 (UTC)


 * no idea, but I wish that someone crop it a little, on its Y axis. Images take too much space in the article as it is.--PLNR (talk) 06:26, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Sharemap is, well, kinda like the custom map feature of Google Maps, but using Open Street Map content. It's a free content project that enhances our goals. And additionally, it IS an external link. They're just slightly lighter colors than "normal" links. ViperSnake151   Talk  21:03, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 February 2014
Please change "Independent Olympic Participants" to "India"; suspension of India has been lifted, as mentioned here: http://www.olympic.org/news/ioc-executive-board-lifts-suspension-of-noc-of-india/224038

14.192.209.86 (talk) 09:17, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

✅  Occult Zone  ( Talk ) 09:26, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Concerns and controversies - WP:UNDUE
The Concerns and controversies section in this article is far too long. I am well aware of all the politics involved with the Olympics. I just think that editors have perhaps over focused on such issues rather than the game itself. That's what Concerns and controversies at the 2014 Winter Olympics is for. -- Tobby72 (talk) 20:55, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Every news article i see comments on one or more of the issues, this Olympics is apparently quite controversial, in that regard. Sportfan5000 (talk) 20:59, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * "Far too long"? In a measure by copy-pasting this article into a word document and doing a word count, the controversies section only takes up 1324 of the article's 11778 words. That's about 11% of the article- and that's including the words of the newly added tags which really shouldn't count as they aren't really a part of the section's content. It's pretty hard to believe that that (a mere 11% of the article) is in any way excessive. --Yalens (talk) 21:11, 10 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is not a newspaper or online news site. Wikipedia is an online encyclopedia, written from a neutral point of view.


 * Take a look at 2008 Summer Olympics. -- Tobby72 (talk) 21:16, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * And we've had six years to work that material. As the Games are underway i think it's unrealistic for anyone to do anything but their best as events progress. Too early to claim undue as the Games are still going on. Sportfan5000 (talk) 21:23, 10 February 2014 (UTC)


 * The chunk about the Circassians was way wordier than it should have been, but the content seemed fine. Just needs to be concise, not cut. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:25, 11 February 2014 (UTC)


 * It can be trimmed down a little but I think it's fair to point out that there may be shorter sections not only as noted above, but because of the time to fix them but it was a different event and so naturally this article will be different. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 19:34, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
 * It's more neutral and much shorter now, but I kept all the key points. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:55, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Participating nations
Is there a colour key anywhere for the map of the participating nations? Green presumably means a NOC fielding a national team, but I cannot find any indication of what blue (eg. Uruguay) or yellow (eg. India) colouring means. - Tenebris 20:18, 10 February 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.91.170.20 (talk)
 * From File:2014 Winter Olympics Participants.png, "Green = Full participation. Blue = New winter olympics countries Orange = Competed under Olympic flag (India)." Granted, there could be a key somewhere on the article.  --Super Goku V (talk) 01:44, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

India needs to be added to competing nations!
Please add India to the list of competing nations the IOC has Lifted their ban, on them!--Subman758 (talk) 07:22, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Comparing U.S. schoolroom laws with Russian effective ban on all LGBT propaganda
Per Talk:Concerns and controversies at the 2014_Winter Olympics I think this information is equally misplaced here. I've bolded the problematic portion: "On 6 February 2014, Obama confirmed the intent of the choices during an interview with Bob Costas aired by NBC the next day, stating that "there is no doubt we wanted to make it very clear that we do not abide by discrimination in anything, including discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation." Although the U.S. government was praised by HRC for the decision [ed. to send openly gay athletes to represent the US], a writer for the Washington Post has since noted that eight U.S. states (including Utah, the 2002 host state) have laws regulating or banning the coverage of homosexuality in school sex education classes."

Although technically true that the comparison has been made, the legislation in Russia is nationwide and has been met with international condemnation and Olympic-focussed protests. It seems misplaced to cherry-pick US state laws and apply them this way. Another comment from that discussion: Also worth noting that "U.S. officials" aren't what is mentioned by the Washington post blog piece since it is actually referring to the independent laws of federated states, not the opinion of official positions of any United States (federal) official, nor any of the official positions of any of the several states or their officers. Anyone else see it's inclusion here as not needed? Sportfan5000 (talk) 20:58, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * The hint that the section is non-neutral and original research is the "although" - it is a section independently providing a rebuttal to the statements of a public figure. We're writing an encyclopedic history here, not a blow by blow. The Washington Post writer was essentially writing an opinion piece rather than reporting. My opinions on the Post's slopply labeling of their sections aside, in this case it has equal relevance to citing, say a random lawyer. The fact of the laws is probably notable elsewhere the argument of equivalency is not encyclopedic. However, if say, President Putin turned around and said "hey, 8 of your states also have similar laws Mr. Obama" that would be notable, regardless of how sensible the argument is.--Tznkai (talk) 21:04, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * If there is no consensus to keep this information i will look to removing it. Sportfan5000 (talk) 00:50, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I agree on removing it. I just removed a similar sentence in the controversy article without having seen any talkpage discussion. I agree that if Putin or other high Russian officials had accused the US of hypocrisy that would have been notable, with proper attribution; it would also have been notable if there had been a major debate over how these sets of laws compare with multiple reliable sources covering the issue. Just one WP column doesn't cut it. Regards, Iselilja (talk) 01:07, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

I think the sentence should stay. Both Russia/USSR and the US are known for accusing each other in things they both practice (e.g. imperialism, interfering in other countries internal affairs, racism (esp. before 1960s), LGBT rights, etc.) The fact that a well-known newspaper like Washington Post published this article is enough to make it notable and relevant. -- Ե րևանցի talk  01:40, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
 * By that logic the article would overflow with cross criticism from Russia about the U.S. This is just not notable criticism as it stands now, as outlined above. Perhps a new development will render this noteworthy. Sportfan5000 (talk) 08:26, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Medal table is wrong
List of nation`s place in overall medal count is wrong! They should be sorted by gold medals (then by silver and bronze)! Not by total number of medals! Somebody, please change it! Thanks!


 * closed. Either it is already addressed, or you confused something, it follows the same format as all the other Olympics. --PLNR (talk) 09:19, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
 * The table is correct as of 12 February 2014 --MSalmon (talk) 11:51, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

French translation
A particular editor has requested that a French translation of the official name of these Games be included in the lead of the article, despite this not being historically included in the articles of prior Games, because French is an official language of the IOC. Yet, the editor who asserts this has noticeably added this information to other recent Olympic articles with the same footnote, and has also made other edits insisting the inclusion of translations of titles for officially bilingual works and organizations, in leads.

We need actual consensus on this. This is the English Wikipedia, the translation does not add anything to the rest of the article, and we have an Interwiki link that uses the French name. ViperSnake151  Talk  23:44, 11 February 2014 (UTC)


 * There were at least three particular editors. You reverted someone, I reverted you, you reverted me then a third reverted you. English Wiki, sure, but facts are universal. You'll notice the lead of Russia (or pick one) also has official names in the official language. It's not even a translation, per se, just a second official name. It adds the same basic info to the article any name does.


 * As for other stuff, it exists. InedibleHulk (talk) 14:04, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
 * In this case, it doesn't. If you're going to insist on its inclusion, please change all of the other articles to include the French names. ViperSnake151   Talk  17:04, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Hrm, in this case, I would support English only, as it is an international event on an English wiki, or English/French/Russian, which are the languages available on Sochi.ru. IOC's official languages are not dispositive as each Olympics is also independent organized.--Tznkai (talk) 18:03, 12 February 2014 (UTC)


 * I've added the other name to the rest. Not because of an ultimatum, it was just a good idea. Thanks. Each Olympics is somewhat independently organized, but always under the official umbrella of the International Olympic Committee, which chooses official names. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:24, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Readding Independent Olympic Participants to the table.
As stated on the Olympics page: "India were reinstated on 11 February 2014, however, as he had already competed in Sochi his results were recorded under IOP." Shiva Keshavan did not compete as an athlete from India, but as an Independent Olympic Participant. --Super Goku V (talk) 18:28, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

A olympic park
"It is also the first time that a Olympic Park" Sweet mother of pearl can someone with edit rights change that "a" to "an." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.231.208.5 (talk) 16:04, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done 97rob (talk) 19:16, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 February 2014
I would like to see a list of nations at their first winter olympics next to the list of countries that didn't compete in the last winter olympics

121.91.195.44 (talk) 03:37, 15 February 2014 (UTC)


 * . Don't see why this is necessary or how it improves the article.  (Note that I'm also not convinced that displaying the nations who missed the last games or who were at the last but not this one adds anything to the article either.) Ravendrop 09:10, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

ShareMap link
ShareMap link IS NOT external link - it is InterWiki link.

ShareMap was under acceptance process and it was added to MediaWiki projects InterWiki linking table. According to Wikipedia manual of style it is allowed to put this type of links inside article content and they are trusted and never treated like spam.

If you go to HTML code you will see that there are not rel="nofollow" and class="external" in this links attributes.

Please do not remove this link, unless you think that it is not suitable here and content may mislead users.

--Jkan997 (talk) 13:34, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I still think it is misleading and adds nothing to the page or the map. When you click on the link the map that you are sent to isn't interactive in any way.  Additionally, if it was an interactive, because it looks like an external links, I would expect it to go to an official Sochi page such as this one, which provides more details on transit, or this one which is interactive and shows much more information than simply the venues themselves.  For these reasons I think the link should not be included.
 * (Additionally, can you point to a page where it says it is an acceptable in-page link. The ones listed on the pages you point to are all either for interlanguage or interproject links.)  Ravendrop 00:52, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Post Olympic Venue Usage
Does anyone know more details about post Olympic venue usage? The section is rather small and mainly focused on the F1 circuit (and the circuit doesn't actually use any of the venues, just the park itself). While watching Olympic coverage I've heard little things mentioned such as a potential hockey franchise from the Russian hockey league moving (or being added to) Sochi and playing in one of the stadiums. If a source for that (and I'll look too) can be found that would be a good thing to add as well as any other info regarding other venues. -AnonWikiEditor (talk) 01:01, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
 * This is the organizing committee's official Legacy Report. Like most of these, its information on the venues is rather general, with specific information only really coming out months to years after the Olympics have concluded.  (see the ongoing saga of the London Olympic Stadium's post game usage, which was supposed to be decided well before the games).  It does have a good amount of information about the infrastructure legacy though.  Ravendrop 03:17, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Patriotism
Some American patriot has taken it upon himself to add some extra medals to the United States on the medal count. Someone should revise this list and update it with the correct numbers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.202.247.103 (talk) 18:06, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅ already been reverted 97rob (talk) 19:48, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Ice Dancing Cheating
The main "Concerns and controversies at the 2014 Winter Olympics" has been not been updated regarding this scandal. The U.S. team ended up winning gold and the Russian team ended up winning group gold. Could someone with more Wiki editing knowledge than me update both that article and include the issue in this one? ty Teknozilla (talk) 12:07, 19 February 2014 (UTC)Teknozilla
 * Conspiracy theories do not belong in the article. -AnonWikiEditor (talk) 00:51, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Notable ones do, but I'm not convinced this one is all that notable. Apparently every Olympics has similar rumors of cheating. Sportfan5000 (talk) 03:12, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
 * ... what about Kim Yuna, i.e. Adelina Sotnikova? - it's not just rumors. Katarina Witt almost did burst into tears of anger when she first heard about the judges decision. --IIIraute (talk) 07:18, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
 * How is it a conspiracy theory? A source broke the "fix" to the news magazine L'Equip before the skating had even began and then, just like the article said would happen, Davis and Charlie as well as the Russian group ice skaters did get the gold. L'Equip is a respectable magazine. They broke the Lance Armstrong doping scandal. All Wiki article criteria are met. It should be included in the article.Teknozilla (talk) 09:57, 20 February 2014 (UTC)Teknozilla
 * The allegation wasn't proved, because the allegation was not that Davis and White would win, but that the judges would cheat. You're making a novel synthesis based on existing facts, which cannot be allowed on Wikipedia, especially when involving living persons.--Tznkai (talk) 20:05, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Uh, no. If you read L'Equip's article, it states that the U.S. pair's ice skating would get the gold. Please read the article before making non sense statements.Teknozilla (talk) 11:15, 21 February 2014 (UTC)Teknozilla
 * I have not read the article. It is both paywalled and in French, and we do our best to use free and English language sources around here. However, if you could email me the appropriate sections that conflict with every bit of English language reporting on the subject, I would be happy to take a look at it. you can go to my user page and click the link.--Tznkai (talk) 23:22, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
 * So the world's number one ice dancing team ended up winning Olympic gold? Yup, that type of outlandish outcome could surely only have occurred by way of cheating. Thankfully that one Russian guy revealed everything. -AnonWikiEditor (talk) 06:14, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Mario Game
Why is their a section about the Sochi 2014 mario game? It is not important. It's a waste of space! please delete — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.173.170.141 (talk) 5:23, 19 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Consider this a second voice questioning why this is notable. The first poster may not have been eloquent in their objection, but their objection has merit. Innumerable tie-in products are made for the Olympics. Do we have any source indicating this is a widely known tie-in, that it has some special status, that it was highly visible, etc? I question its notability in that context, and also the weight we're giving it. It gets its own subsection and paragraph, which is comparable length to what we spend on discussing categories of branding, rather than specific items. Mayeb shorten this to a single sentence and add it to one of the other headings...it just seems too much coverage for something of questionable notability.204.65.34.237 (talk) 23:35, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

I have deleted the section about the Sochi 2014 Mario game.

LGBT rights neutrality
The phrase "propaganda of non-traditional sexual relations" is somewhat misleading, because someone forget to add "among minors".178.187.52.66 (talk) 14:21, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * The entire phrase is a red herring, and needs to be corrected to report what reliable sources have stated, that it's a ban against "gay propaganda," no one is buying the think of the children appeal. Sportfan5000 (talk) 16:27, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I did just fix that right now. Why you have such a problem with it, I don't know, because it's only mentioned once, and immediately followed by everyone decoding what it really means. ViperSnake151   Talk  19:36, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * My comment was directed at the general idea that people are upset about protecting children, no one is. I'm sure i will have many changes in mind when i look at the changes you have again made, mostly obscuring what I feel are the most relevant, and notable points. If no one else addresses them before I get to it then I will. Sportfan5000 (talk) 23:44, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Results books
The Results books are now online.

Results books Hektor (talk) 13:08, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 February 2014
Nikita Borisovich Dzhigurda men http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_International_2013#Results www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNEQAE1zRtM&feature=youtu.be

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Next Olympics...?
Does the wiki show where the next olympics will be held, I cannot find it...? (Thetechwizard21 (talk) 02:43, 1 March 2014 (UTC))

Politicized media coverage?
What is Politicized in awareness campaign over LGBT rights\Human rights\Censorship etc? much of the section seem to be over reaching and loosely tied SYN.--PLNR (talk) 17:10, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I wrote this section. "Politicized" is not my language; this is how IOC officials Mario Pescante, Thomas Bach, and others (as well as many journalists) described the atmosphere during and leading up to the Games. "Awareness campaigns" and other forms of protest/demonstrations are banned on Olympic grounds, as per Rule 50 of the Olympic Charter. This entire section is well-referenced, including the criticism of the media coverage. --Life is like a box of chocolates (talk) 21:18, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Concern regarding
Salzburg campaign leader threatened by Russian mafia

I've got a concern with this particular paragraph, as only one source is cited, which, no offense to the source, is an isolated one from a regional newspaper in Germany. As I'm not a regular Wikipedia editor I thought I'd just add a section on the Talk page about this, so that if someone else who's more experienced comes along this page, they could take action or ignore it entirely. Either way, it doesn't feel or look right. It's a rather big claim in such a small paragraph and it's not really sourced well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.96.116.166 (talk) 17:42, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Well fine. I have removed it for now. Anyone else who would like to add it back, they shall require multiple sources.  Occult Zone  ( Talk ) 23:38, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi User:OccultZone, I agree that in principle strong claims require strong sources. So how many sources would you like? More than one I presume so perhaps two or three? AadaamS (talk) 15:04, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
 * At least 2 will work. I hope you will suggest much better headline for the section. Thanks  Occult Zone  ( Talk ) 15:06, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok, I will try to come up with something better and I am also open to suggestions. I will reuse the Frankfurter Allgemeine source as it is the third-largest newspaper in Germany according to List of newspapers in Germany, there are not many newspapers in Germany with a better reputation as far as I know. Only Die Zeit and Süddeutsche Zeitung have a larger circulation. AadaamS (talk) 15:14, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure and thanks for defining credibility of the newspaper.  Occult Zone  ( Talk ) 15:16, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay, I found this source as well: http://www.focus.de/sport/olympia-2014/andere-olympia-bewerber-unter-druck-gesetzt-russen-mafia-soll-bei-sotschi-bewerbung-geholfen-haben_id_3870510.html, by Focus (German magazine) which has a circulation of around half a million copies per month. Its English Wikipedia page doesn't say much, but there's one in german Wikipedia too: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focus. Can I re-add the paragraph if I add this source? The originator of the story was Bild am Sonntag but I didn't find an article on the bild.de website. There are other lesser german magazines which reprinted the story too, but Focus and FAZ (abbreviation for "Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung") I think are among the strongest sources AadaamS (talk) 07:59, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Plus another source from austrian Wirtschaftsblatt: http://wirtschaftsblatt.at/home/life/sport/3812017/Sotschi-statt-Salzburg_War-die-Mafia-im-Spiel AadaamS (talk) 08:01, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Can be added now. Thanks a lot.  Occult Zone  ( Talk ) 09:27, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
 * This page only lists the major concerns/controversies - and I don't think this was major enough (especially considering there wasn't English reporting). It should be moved to Concerns and controversies at the 2014 Winter Olympics. Kirin13 (talk) 15:14, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
 * You should make your edit, then only I will know that what type of body you want for this article.  Occult Zone  ( Talk ) 15:18, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Good. The subsection, "Politicized media coverage", looks very large as well.  Occult Zone  ( Talk ) 15:25, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Since the two of you just made the decision for inclusion, I was giving the courtesy to discuss before removing the material. But since you prefer me to just go ahead, I have done so. Kirin13 (talk) 15:27, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Possible copyright problem
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Request for Comment
There is a Request for Comment about "Chronological Summaries of the Olympics" and you're invited! Becky Sayles (talk) 07:53, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

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Concerns and controversies
The Concerns and controversies section in this article is far too long. Take a look at 2008 Summer Olympics. -- Tobby72 (talk) 12:56, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
 * As it is similar in length to the section in the article for the previous Winter Olympics ([]), and there have been no other objections or reasoning posted, I am removing the undue weight tag. - Flaose (talk) 12:58, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

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Medal table
Russia has problems with doping so several of the medaills will be stripped. A warning is needed close to the table, not in the last section.Xx236 (talk) 06:17, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

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