Talk:2018 United States gun violence protests

Title?
I'm not sure, perhaps this article (Enough Walkout) should be moved to National School Walkout? Here is the official Facebook page. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:43, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I've gone ahead and submitted a request to have the page moved, but still welcome input. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:48, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
 * That name seems to have been first used, and gotten significant attention, for the April 20 walkout proposal by student Lane Murdock.--Pharos (talk) 01:58, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Are you suggesting "Enough Walkout" is the more appropriate title? Or, perhaps we should have a single article for both, called National school walkouts? I based on the current article title on the event's Facebook event page and promotional artwork, but of course we should go with the name used more often in secondary coverage. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 02:00, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I do think "Enogh Walkout" is more appropriate if it's just this event. There are three school walkout efforts, this one for March 14, and both a student-led and a teacher-led one for April 20, as well as non-walkout protests.  I think perhaps we could go even broader, to include 2018 United States gun violence protests.--Pharos (talk) 02:07, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
 * OK, let me cancel my move request. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 02:11, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅ I've cancelled requested move to National School Walkout and moved this one to 2018 United States gun violence protests, per your suggestion, which I think is more appropriate. We can always create standalone articles for whichever events are independently notable, if any. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 02:14, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Apparently, the two are in touch now.--Pharos (talk) 04:32, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

Other protests
Since the scope of this article has widened, I'm assuming we should add information about other smaller protests, and not just the March 14, March 24, and April 20 events? I see today there are demonstrators outside the White House. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 02:23, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree, the ones in Florida I think belong too.--Pharos (talk) 02:39, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Do you mean the one organized by Never Again MSD on 2/17, or have there been others? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:22, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

Background section?
Would a background section help to give readers some context, perhaps addressing the many recent mass shootings in growing public frustration appropriately? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 03:58, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
 * This is just activism, not objective, and I am a bit annoyed at the extent to which Wikipedia is used as a soapbox for the American culture war. It would be nice to see some clean statistics on gun violence, but "mass shooting" isn't a decent metric. The problem is that if the topic were to be looked at objectively, the overwhelming problem would turn out to be gang violence, which is of no interest to the activists. But no, you should not write a "background section" carefully tuned to fit your partisan preferences. --dab (𒁳) 21:45, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
 * What are you talking about? "Background" sections can be neutral... --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:47, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
 * No, this entire article is to document the protest and the points of view of the protesters, so it does not need to have debates on it. Same for every other wikipedia article, as this is not a debating site. If you want to debate about this issue, I suggest you go over to Wasabi,the,one (Talk Contributions) 23:50, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Images
Hi all,

Just added an image of a rally held in Brooklyn today following the walkout. There are several others that editors of this page may find useful (either instead or in addition). &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 01:16, 15 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:22, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

National School Walkout, March 14
I won't fork an article unless this one gets too long, but the National School Walkout on March 14 is likely independently notable and deserving of a standalone article, if coverage were fleshed out to its fullest potential. The coordinated demonstration involved thousands of U.S. schools, and saw international participation. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:38, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I think the article would have a better quality if it started with a "Background" section first. The Demonstration section is mostly about the background. Some of the information available in Stoneman_Douglas_High_School_shooting could be reused. That way, the Demonstration section can be mostly about the various protests using a sub-heading. User:Tetizeraz. Send me a ✉️ ! 14:21, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Early planning of different protests
It appears the first idea was for teachers to strike on May 1, proposed by Berliner and then Ravitch, and got notice on Slate. Murdock made a proposal for a student walkout on April 20 about the same time, and it seemed like that date was gaining momentum, so the teacher effort was realigned to April 20. The Women's March Network was inspired by the idea from Murdock and decided they could implement it more practically on March 14. This all happened very quickly in the first couple of days after the shooting.--Pharos (talk) 18:13, 4 April 2018 (UTC)