Talk:2020 Summer Olympics opening ceremony

Section removed
you cannot remove twice an entire main and principal section on the ground that you will find elsewhere its content…--Arorae (talk) 08:49, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I appreciate the work you do gathering information and references for these pages. Often it allows for facts not picked up earlier to be made available on Wikipedia. I think I understand the confusion, and I would like to make my case below:
 * I'm following the format of 2012 Summer Olympics opening ceremony as the baseline template for this page. I've chosen it as it has Good-Article status. In that article, the main summary of the ceremony is called "Proceedings". I can see that in the 2016 Summer Olympics opening ceremony that this section is called "Ceremony", but I think a case can be made that it is still at a C-class article, and the section should also be changed to "Proceedings". In 4 days, we will have the full list of proceedings and we'll be slowly adding paragraphs describing what happens in each section. This is why I also changed "Performers" to "Proceedings" as it is more describing events than who is performing.
 * Much of the content such as who are the Directors and Producers, and the theme has been mentioned in the "Preparations" section, and those facts in other Opening ceremony pages are discussed there.
 * I can see that the paragraph about the formal opening, the line "The Olympic cauldron will be lit by an athlete, still unknown." and the line about Cornelius can be moved to the proceedings section.
 * Would love to hear your thoughts. Lama12 (talk) 09:49, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Love seems too much, like is just enough.
 * a good article in 2012 sounds not a good article in 2021, especially the format could be changed or not adapted, especially with the Covid crisis. I am trying to gather in one section, which I called "ceremony", the main steps of the ceremony itself and you start not only to empty it, but to revert it all (twice) and even to cut off some links inside the parts you have preserved, like the cauldron designer name, Oki Sato. Why? You have pick up some of my contributions and make also disappeared some (no more opening speech or put elsewhere, no more specific theme of the ceremony). Why? as we say in French, you look like "an elephant in a china shop", editing only according to your own point of view, with no regards for my own contributions. sorry but it is not like that WP works…--Arorae (talk) 19:18, 19 July 2021 (UTC)


 * The 2012 article has been continuously edited since then, although it did fail peer review in 2020 due to no interest from Wiki editors. Lama12 (talk) 21:28, 19 July 2021 (UTC)


 * The word "Proceedings" appears to have been used almost exclusively in fleshed out Opening Ceremony articles, with 2016 being one exception. 2020 should most likely use "Proceedings"; 2016 should probably be changed to match. EditorSeto (talk) 14:48, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

Name typo
and you cannot write names like that, with capitals and Japanese order:
 * KOBAYASHI Kentaro
 * HIRAHARA Shintaro
 * TANAKA Tomoyuki
 * but only Kentaro Kobayashi, etc,--Arorae (talk) 08:52, 19 July 2021 (UTC)


 * I was copying the Tokyo 2020 press release, which had it in that format. But alas, I have made the change .Lama12 (talk) 10:07, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * thanks but you have a sandbox for that. WP is not a sandbox for copy and paste without regards.--Arorae (talk) 18:22, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Controversies as a sub heading in the Preparations section?
There's a lot of Controversy with people resigning throughout the past 18 months, and with the extra details about the musician who almost had to resign (although it was too late). Would it be better to include a Controversy section now? Lama12 (talk) 12:56, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * No chance of that. It will get 'reverted', just as this comment will.
 * The above text was by‎ on 92.24.71.231 09:24, 25 July 2021‎

Imagine
Why is there no mention of Imagine, by John Lennon? Kind regards, JJK2000 (talk) 07:24, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
 * The editors haven't added it yet. If you have a reference, please add it to the proceedings. Lama12 (talk) 09:43, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Lack of critical response, especially from Japanese media
The Olympic has seen critical responses among Japanese prople. As some examples:

"Athletes fall asleep due to Thomas Bach's speech being too long" https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/9b519b3e9d675f66ad45bbabfecaa84918c35b74

"50 local police on Olmypic-related duty quarantined for COVID-19 infection" https://news.yahoo.co.jp/pickup/6399699

"Message from the emperor ignored by prime minister Suga" https://bunshun.jp/articles/-/46477?utm_source=news.yahoo.co.jp&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=relatedLink

According to WP:BALANCE these voices from mass media should not be ignored.

The above text was by‎ Thepinata on 06:30, 26 July 2021.


 * Agree with your findings. I've added the first link to the Reception section, and a related link which gave some Japanese reviews of the ceremony. I really think we first need to include a Controversy section to this page to explain the protest outside during the ceremony, and then the second link can be added. The third link needs a Japanese voice to contextualize the comments being made in that article and to explain if it's related to the opening ceremony, or if its a wider criticism about the lack of leadership against Tokyo 2020. Lama12 (talk) 12:52, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

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