Talk:5–2 defense

reversion to Bill George game
People don't read talk I see. In the book "Wow Boys" by James Johnson, in the Epilogue, (p 189 in my paperback edition), there is a long quote by Clark Shaughnessy, who was the Bears defensive coordinator at the time. I'll give it here.

"We were in what appeared to be a six man line. They all played possum until just before the snap. Sometimes they jumped away at the moment of the snap. You can do that against the shotgun because a shotgun play never starts as fast as a T play. That's the weakness of the shotgun. The reason the 49ers couldn't block us was they couldn't find us.'"

So, I'm going to remove the reversion when I have time. If it keeps getting added back I'm going to ask to have this article locked. Dwmyers (talk) 16:01, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

Bill George in 1961 - 5-2 front?
I'm going to remove the reference to the Bill George game versus the 49ers, because there is evidence in the book "Wow Boys", by James Johnson, that the front is actually a six man line. Clark Shaughnessy talks extensively about the game in the end of that book (page 186). Dwmyers (talk) 15:26, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

5-2 Oklahoma and option offenses of the time
I know, but don't have all the references to tie the use of the Oklahoma to its ability to stop the Split T option offenses of the late 40s. It fell out of favor because it wasn't as good at stopping triple options, and that's when 1 gap defenses of the Miami 4-3 became popular. I have a couple Bud Wilkinson books on order, so we'll see. Dwmyers (talk) 07:56, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Merger proposal
The two pages, 5–2 defense and 5–2–4 defense, are clearly the same. Other standard American football formation articles, such as 4–3 defense and 3–4 defense&mdash;though the 5–2 is no longer a standard formation at the college or professional level&mdash;don't follow the format of including the number of defensive backs. JohnnyPolo24 (talk) 15:28, 12 February 2010 (UTC)