Talk:A. D. King

Cause of Death
This article states that the cause of King's death was listed as suicide. However, the Time article referenced states that it was "accidental drowning". Can someone clarify or expand on this? -Bindingtheory (talk) 20:01, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

"in fact A. D. King drowned at home after a long bout with alcohol and depression." It is hard to tell in these cases if the death was intentional so Time is assuming "accidental drowning rather than "suicide". Also, Dr. Martin L King's widow would certainly have spoken up if King's brother had been a victim of foul play.

I'm going to give folks a chance to respond before adding the quoted information to the article. --Javaweb (talk) 02:57, 10 September 2010 (UTC) Javaweb
 * The claim by Taylor Bunch is absolutely false. None of the eye witnesses interviewed in the documentary entitled "Behold The Dream: Brother To The Dreamer" supported the claim, including Mrs. Naomi King, the wife to Rev A D Williams King. Please respect the family and stop unfounded rumors; in fact it is an insult upon injury without any evidence or facts to back up the claim.--Dr. Babs Onabanjo — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.71.184.244 (talk) 22:25, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

(Moved the comment to show what it was responding to) Javaweb (talk) 04:20, 7 March 2013 (UTC)Javaweb

Regarding this line:

Also, Dr. Martin L King's widow would certainly have spoken up if King's brother had been a victim of foul play.

It reads like the opinion of one single Wiki editor. To use such a line, the statement must have an attribution. For instance, "Psychologist So-and-So believes that the widow would have spoken up..." The line as it exists is an op-ed line and has no place in an objective account. The use of the word "certainly" is out of place, for it's implying that those who do not see it this way are blind. This is an op-ed comment, not an objective line. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bqua2022 (talk • contribs) 00:26, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

Regarding this line: — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bqua2022 (talk • contribs) 00:29, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

However, it is likely that the stress of his brother's high-profile activist work and the trauma of his assassination exacerbated A.D.'s heart problems, rumor disclaimed by his wife Naomi Ruth Barber King, of which there was a family history.

1) rumor: what rumor? Was it a rumor that A.D. had heart problems? Or was it a rumor that his trauma was exacerbated by heart problems? Or is Ruth disclaiming the idea that A.D.'s activist work was stressful? I have no idea from reading this sentence. 2) disclaims: an awkward word, used multiple times. More to the point would be: "Wife Naomi Ruth Barber King denies that A.D. had heart problems." 3) "It is likely": according to whom? Most media sources? Most Americans? The Wiki editor who wrote this? This use of the passive voice here is particularly problematic since the subject of how A.D. died is controversial. The passive voice is out of place. It makes it sound like God himself thinks that A.D.'s death was from natural causes.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bqua2022 (talk • contribs) 00:20, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

Problem with citing AD King Foundation video
Naomi King, the widow, said, "There is no doubt in my mind that the system killed my husband." Note that the explosive sound after her statement. Although she certainly believes this, the source is misleading because her video is punctuated by an explosive sound effect from a bomb or bullet but he was not killed by a bullet or explosion. This outweighs any information from providing the clip. --Javaweb (talk) 01:17, 21 August 2012 (UTC)Javaweb
 * I completely disagree with the assertion that because of the bomb blast, the statement made by Mrs. King was compromised. If you watched the entire documentary not the trailer, you will notice that the only bomb blast occurred when Mrs. King's house was bombed on May 11, 1963 Birmingham Alabama. Also note that his church was bombed in Louisville, Kentucky. Was that indeed by coincidence? Not in a million chance!--Dr. Babs Onabanjo — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.71.184.244 (talk) 23:04, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

(Moved the comment to show what it was responding to) --Javaweb (talk) 20:32, 6 March 2013 (UTC)Javaweb
 * The trailer CLIP was misleading because it consisted of his wife saying he was murdered and then a gunshot-like sound effect. His widow's remarks are still in the article. Only the out-of-context sound effect is not there. His house bombing is in the article. Do you have a reliable source for the KY. church bombing? If so, that bombing belongs in the article.

--05:40, 7 March 2013 (UTC)Javaweb