Talk:A Dramatic Turn of Events

Article is written favorably toward album
Around the Reception area people are continuing to add un-reputable, highly rated sources, including using positive feedback in the negative section. Every time I try to change the page it is modified back. Someone check this please.Sonicspeed500 (talk) 06:12, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Reception removal
Why was it removed? Tons of fans responded how they felt in the comments, just like wikipedia to take down everything useful — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.84.27.153 (talk) 18:21, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

The name of the fifth track
The edit that changed the track name to "Bridges in the Sky" was not vandalism. While the original announcement lists the track as "The Shaman's Trance", many online sources, including outlets offering pre-order of the album list it as "Bridges in the Sky". I'm not certain which should be put in the article, but those edits were made in good faith, and are not vandalism, and it's a bit harsh to label them as such.



Milko Krachounov (talk) 19:12, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Tracks Length
Is the tracks length source reliable? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.139.221.129 (talk) 00:32, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Personnel
Any body able to find/discover and add more personnel to the album? Such as the intro voice in Bridges? — Preceding unsigned comment added by I.AM.CASK (talk • contribs) 02:51, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

What needs to be added?
Hey guys. The article has a pretty good, but not flawless Completion rating. What else needs to be added?

Ktmartell (talk) 21:08, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

ADToE based on Images and Words structures?
I think a mention of this article might be warranted for the main page. Anyone else think so? zappafrank2112 (talk) 00:08, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Probably a bit too controversial until DT comment on it Duncan3dc (talk) 11:47, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

That's not an article, it's some random guy speculating. Nothing worth putting in the article. 142.68.169.112 (talk) 19:34, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Does no one think it should be mentioned considering even Portnoy commented on it? Ktmartell (talk) 01:14, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

It most definitely is not just some random guy speculating. Go listen to "Lost Not Forgotten" and "Under A Glass Moon" and pause after each part and compare what each instrument is doing in each. If that doesn't convince you, do the same thing with "Wait For Sleep/Learning to Live" and "Far From Heaven/Breaking All Illusions." The songs are structured entirely the same. Not plagiarized like Nickelback's "How You Remind Me" and "Someday" but A Dramatic Turn of Events uses the same roadmap as Images and Words — Preceding unsigned comment added by SivArt (talk • contribs) 22:07, 11 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I actually came to this talk page specifically to say that I think the way it's presented currently is just about perfect. It is mentioned (as it bloody well should be), but in a fact-based way and without any Blabbermouth slant. Well done to whoever worded this bit of the article. MXVN (talk) 12:24, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Additional Chart Information
The album debuted at #1 in Japan on their overall album chart (the one that includes foreign and domestic albums). Someone should add that with the proper citations. 142.68.169.112 (talk) 19:36, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

The album is #5 on the first week of sale in the Czech Republic, source: http://www.ifpicr.cz/hitparada/index.php - "TOP50 - Prodejni" and "201137" should be selected. I do not know better method of linking. The wiki page seems to be a bit messed up, so I do not dare to edit. Belenor (talk) 09:56, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Biased reviews
I know a lot of of the Wikipedia articles for fringe bands have this problem, as the person who edits it is more likely to be a fan and more likely to want to add positive material, but the reviews posted for this album are not taken from the usual stock of music critic sources, but rather a cherry picking of other positive review sites. I don't have anything against this album, I just think we should be working towards some consistency, for the sake of the reader. 202.171.168.178 (talk) 16:24, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

I agree. I just found Metacritic's page for the album and it looks like the professional, reputable reviews of the album are quite mixed. We definitely need to do something about that section. Ktmartell (talk) 18:04, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

I've just noticed the review taken from The AU Review, authored by dave roberts doesn't seem to be a professional review. I think we should remove this. Duncan3dc (talk) 17:25, 23 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Well spotted, it appears to be a user review. It should be removed. Idiotchalk (talk) 03:01, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Trivia
The main character in the cover of ADTOE is the same used for the cover album of Circus Maximus, The 1st Chapter, in 2005. Some details let see that the shirt is the same, so we can think clip art was used for the making of the art of ADTOE. On the web are many sites where this is posted, so you can search. It's not important, just part of the trivia. It's a little bit interesting, though. --Stargazer004 (talk) 03:11, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Missing some great information
Last night I was fixing up some references and saw that the references listed for some information were just references to the ADTOE Facebook page! I ended up having to remove them because I couldn't find the original articles! The pieces of information I'm speaking of are the lyric and "heavy, Latin, and devastating" lines from Rudess. Does anyone know where we can actually find these gems?--Ktmartell (talk) 01:51, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Adding pictures


I'm trying to get a recent picture of Mangini to add to the article. I'm also thinking about adding an image in "Lyrical themes". What does everyone think about this image and caption? I'm thinking it could work, but could also be a little bleak.--Ktmartell (talk) 00:52, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

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