Talk:Abdominoplasty

Need Assistance with External Link Policy
I am trying to understand why an external link that I posed is considered SPAM while a similar link, SurgiCare, on the external links section of this article is not?

The page I linked to had very detailed information on the process both positive and negative and includes risks. I do feel that the link is relevant and informative.

I would like to make sure I follow the guidelines and stay within the boundaries in future actions, and respect the intentions of the community and Wiki overall.

Srikarna 21:45, 28 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi there, I was the editor that reverted out your changes. All your edits to-date have been advertising the one website, again and again. This is against our policy regarding spam. Here are the relevant policies to do with spam and external links. WIkipedia is an encyclopedia and not simply a collection of links, nor is it a vehicle for advertising your services, as you have. I strongly suspect surgicare probably shouldn't be in there either, unless there's extreme justification. Wikipedia is not a marketeer's battleground, neither. If you've any further questions, just ask on my talk page - A l is o n  ☺ 21:59, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

I added a page that has almost 500 before and after abdominoplasty pictures Charles.Downey (talk) 17:41, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Links to commercial website
Using link to ones personal website is inappropriate within any part of Wikipedia..-- Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 20:07, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Please define belly button death
It's mentioned but there's no definition or link to an explanation of this term. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.157.175.217 (talk) 01:49, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Promotional material
I have removed recently-added material that seems promotional in nature and/or is not backed by reliable medical sources. I have made similar edits to Trans-umbilical breast augmentation and Buttock augmentation. In order to avoid redundancy, please discuss these changes to all three articles here.--Taylornate (talk) 03:40, 28 October 2013 (UTC)


 * the content is not promotional and it is backed by reliable sources, The doctors listed are board certified and have the authority to back the claims made on this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fblan001 (talk • contribs) 13:20, 28 October 2013 (UTC)


 * MD ≠ Medical Deity. Okay, that was a bit snarky. Think about this way: Would those references be acceptable in an article submitted to Plastic and Reconstructive Surgery? No. As a rule of thumb, if a leading plastic surgery journal would not accept a reference as being sufficiently reliable and authoritative, then neither will Wikipedia. No, I'm not trying to equate the two, this is an online encyclopedia, not a peer-reviewed surgery journal. I simply offer it as a rule of thumb to perhaps prevent all your additions being deleted over and over again.


 * It's too bad really because the article is well-written and informative--that's how I ended up here--I searched Google for "abdominoplasty" and landed on this article! And I learned what I needed to know. All you need to do is add some references to well-respected cosmetic/plastic surgery textbooks and/or peer-reviewed journal articles and this Wikipedia article will be even better. But believe me, cheap affiliate landing pages and links to commercial sites will always get deleted quickly. At the very least, it's not worth your time and energy.  Mark D Worthen PsyD  05:20, 15 January 2014 (UTC)


 * I also suggest removing material from this Abdominoplasty page and the Buttock augmentation page that is promotional in nature and/or is not backed by reliable medical sources. This article reads like a sales pitch. Juliet Sabine (talk) 00:22, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

Photos
I suggest removing Otto Placik's promotional photos which are misleading and look like WP:OR Juliet Sabine (talk) 05:30, 5 December 2017 (UTC)


 * I also suggest removing the names and links to websites from any of the photos as they are promotional. Juliet Sabine (talk) 03:42, 20 December 2017 (UTC)


 * I suggest moving one of the photos of the procedure in process into the WP:LEADIMAGE place, but removing the name of the doctor and link to their website. I will do this as soon as I have time and figure out how -- likely this week. Juliet Sabine (talk) 04:10, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

Related Procedures
I suggest removing the whole current section on Liposuction from this page as it is unsourced, promotional, and misleading. I suggest replacing it with the information --

"Liposuction, also known as also known as lipoplasty, is a type of surgery that removes fat from the human body in an attempt to change its shape. Evidence does not support an effect on weight beyond a couple of months and it does not appear to affect obesity related problems. Serious complications include but are not limited to death, deep vein thrombosis, organ perforation, bleeding, and infection. While the suctioned fat cells are permanently gone, after a few months overall body fat generally returned to the same level as before treatment. This is despite maintaining the previous diet and exercise regimen. While the fat returned somewhat to the treated area, most of the increased fat occurred in the abdominal area. Visceral fat - the fat surrounding the internal organs - increased, and this condition has been linked to life-shortening diseases such as diabetes, stroke, and heart attack.


 * While we're on the subject of related procedures, I find it a glaring omission that there is no Wikipedia article on Apronectomy. A much less radical surgery than Abdominoplasty, Apronectomy involves the surgical removal of an overhanging apron of flesh, typically from the paunch, after weight loss.
 * Nuttyskin (talk) 10:05, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

The summary of the Complete Abdominoplasty is unclear
The "Complete Abdominoplasty" section currently has five steps listed, no citation, and many steps seem to be missing.

I added a "Clarification needed" tag to Step 3, which says "sutures are used to tighten the muscle fascia". It's not at all clear what this means, is a segment of tissue cut out with the gap sutured shut? Is a segment of tissue doubled over and sutured? The latter seems less likely. Shortening muscles and other connective tissues is not so easy.

This section ("Complete Abdominoplasty") also does not mention a second linear incision to remove a wedge-shaped piece of skin, which I'm fairly certain is common practice. It only mentions the first horizontal incision.

This section is also not clear about the removal of fat (adipose tissue) from above and/or below the musculature of the abdominal wall. This can be done several ways, including liposuction or a more involved technique where the tissue is dissected and each blood vessel is ligated. I read about the latter technique for the removal of abdominal and thigh fat, I could find the citation, although it wasn't necessarily in the context of abdominoplasty.

I might like to find a good source on the surgical technique and rewrite this section. Fluoborate (talk) 05:02, 22 March 2024 (UTC)