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Title: Consistent individuality in the timing and magnitude of flowering by Adenanthos obovatus (Proteaceae) Author(s): Wooller RD, Wooller AJ Source: AUSTRALIAN JOURNAL OF BOTANY  Volume: 46   Issue: 5-6   Pages: 595-608   Published: 1998 Times Cited: 0

Will check and add soon (seeing which Adenanthos are closest to GAN...Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:25, 23 November 2010 (UTC)


 * ✅ good article. added. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:08, 23 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Bradshaw et al (2007) "Ecology of the Honey possum, Tarsipes rostratus, in Scott National Park, Western Australia" contains a figure with caption "Flowering phenology of the seven major food plants of Tarsipes rostratus in Scott National Park: Banksia occidentalis, Beaufortia sparsa, Corymbia callophylla, Banksia ilicifolia, B. meisneri, Adenanthos obovatus and A. meisneri", showing this species flowering from early june to last september. We already have superior information on flower phenology, but the fact that it is one of the "seven major food plants of Tarsipes rostratus in Scott National Park" is interesting. Species seems to have been mentioned in passing in a few other Tarsipes rostratus papers, so it may be possible to pull something solid together there.
 * yup. added this one. you're right as there are other papers mentioned... Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:28, 24 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Shearer et al (1998) "Susceptibility of Plant Species in Coastal Dune Vegetation of South-western Australia to Killing by Armillaria luteobubalina" lists this species in Table 6: "Plant species that occurred in less than three disease centres of Armillaria luteobubalina in coastal dune vegetation, and were killed with mycelial sheaths of the pathogen beneath the bark of the root collar".
 * ✅ added. Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:44, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Hesperian 00:31, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Grant (1950) "The Protection of the Ovules in Flowering Plants": "The destructive habits of birds in their visits to flowers may be associated with the presence of strengthening tissues in many bird flowers... Adenanthos obovata is marked by the development of nests of sclereids in the corolla and tracheary elements of the style."
 * Bentham (1873) "Notes on the Styles of Australian Proteaceae": four sentences detailing flower anatomy and physiology, and a figure.
 * Figure now at File:Adenanthos obovatus flower (Bentham 1873).jpg
 * I'll have a look in some of the standard books we've been using for banksia articles; e.g. Food of Australian Birds, Australian Seeds, etc.
 * Nothing for this species in Food of Australian Birds. Hesperian 13:37, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Nothing for this species in Australian Seeds either. Hesperian 01:02, 25 November 2010 (UTC)


 * All looks good. Still fiddling round with both papers I've just added. This chapter:


 * Hopper, S. D., and Burbidge, A. H. (1986). Speciation of bird-pollinated plants in south-western

Australia. In The Dynamic Partnership. (Eds H. A. Ford and D. C. Paton.) pp. 2031. (Government Printer: South Australia.)

looks good to - love to see the fulltext of that. Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:15, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Rejected intermedius: text and plate. Hesperian 05:11, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

PS: Hesperian, you wanna do the distrib map or leave it to me? Happy either way. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:50, 24 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Meh, I have an unhappy relationship with distribution maps at the moment. In short I think the maps I create are crap, and I don't like producing crap, but I can't see my way to generating good solid svg maps that I can be proud of. Having said that, I guess I don't mind producing yet another crap map, since the article needs one. Hesperian 00:01, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, thatd be great. I'll leave it to you and ferret out more sources. Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:07, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

image
The botanical illustration is Plée engrv. after Poit. according to the article on the book, hopefully that is accurate, is it worth noting here. cygnis insignis 02:52, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, according to Nelson's PhD thesis all three of the protologue species were figured, A. cuneata by Sauvage, and the other two by Poiteau. Hesperian 05:27, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Done. Hesperian 12:47, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I noticed the species is reported in field surveys of Phytophthora cinnamomi, listed as an 'indicator species' observed during impact and recovery. That any use? cygnis insignis 06:48, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

note
Apparently Gardner was first to reject A. intermedius. Source is Hesperian 12:49, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Nah, something's wrong there. That source is for A. intricatus (syn. A. argyreus). Hesperian 06:34, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Section ordering
Shouldn't the Description section go after Taxonomy? I'm not sure, but it's just something I've noticed in other taxa FAs...  Auree   ★  01:57, 5 December 2011 (UTC)


 * It's all Hesperian's fault as we've done it this way for all the proteaceae :( ...but seriously, years ago I always placed (and still do for birds, fungi etc.) taxonomy above description as (a) it gives a bit of background as to what we are defining as a species (b) there is a bit of description in the lead anyway (c) generally on older sqaure monitors, you're wanting to put images in the description section, which is a pain if there is a taxobox jutting down the RHS of the screen. Point (c) is becoming less relevant as we go to wider screens though. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:21, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

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