Talk:Aeroflot Flight 5143

Should the article be moved?
I've reverted for now, but also started a discussion at WT:AVIATION regarding a possible move.--Jetstreamer $Talk$ 16:55, 27 September 2014 (UTC)


 * By the way, this is not true, crew fatigue is just the same unofficial version, but according to the investigation, the accident was due to technical problems                                                     "
 * Official conclusion
 * According to the final report of the investigation, the cause of the crash of flight SU-5143 was the stalling of the aircraft in a flat tailspin in flight at the height of the practical ceiling with a large flight mass under the influence of high non-standard outside air temperature, low margin of attack angle and engine thrust. In addition, the crew made a number of deviations from the requirements of the RLE, lost speed and failed to pilot the aircraft.
 * It was also revealed that, on the proposal of the Tupolev Design Bureau and the State Research Institute of Civil Aviation, the flight weight of the Tu-154 was increased from 70 tons at an altitude of 12,500 meters to 86.5 tons for a flight level of 12,100 meters, without taking into account deviations in outside air temperatures from standard ones.
 * Unofficial versions
 * There is a widespread version that the crew control mode was widely assigned before the flight, as a result of which the total wakefulness of piloting showed almost 24 hours. According to the investigation report, the crew observed on flight SU-5143 arrived from Tashkent on the same plane (flight SU-175) at 18:18, following in the passenger cabin as service passengers; data on their pre-trip rest in Tashkent is not available.
 * Due to the fact that the independent speech reaction turned out to be severely damaged, it was not possible to determine exactly whether the state of the crew became still a “special” flight state.
 * Investigators determined that crew fatigue was a factor in the accident. Цйфыву (talk) 11:14, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

Passenger list
So 148 adults plus 52 children equals 200 plus 9 crewmembers is 209 occupants, so why is the passenger count 191? RaceGurram (talk) 00:11, 3 May 2022 (UTC)


 * The 148 adults already includes the 9 crewmembers, so you cannot count them twice. I will agree it seems an unusual way of presenting the numbers - normally it would be a case of "191 passengers (including 52 children), plus 9 crew". It still makes 200.
 * WendlingCrusader (talk) 16:30, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Aeroflot flight 7425 ?
Elsewhere on Wikipedia, and all over the internet (sites probably lazily copying Wikipedia) you will find this crash referenced as Flight 7425. Today I have checked back to the original sources, plus baaa-acro.com, and all agree on flight number 5143. Case closed.

Now I'm heading off to update the loose ends here on Wikipedia, starting with... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroflot_accidents_and_incidents_in_the_1980s

WendlingCrusader (talk) 16:46, 12 July 2024 (UTC)