Talk:African-American upper class/Archive 1

Proposed move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the proposal was moved. I'm going to whip out my shiny English degree and point out that the proposed title is fine with or without the hyphen, depending on how you're reading it—whether you see it as an upper class which is African-American or an upper class of African Americans. --BDD (talk) 22:37, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

– "African American" is more often the favored term for blacks in the U.S. At any rate, middle class is not a proper noun. Marcus Qwertyus (talk) 18:25, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Black American Upper Class → African-American upper class
 * Black American Middle Class → African-American middle class


 * Mild, cautious support of Black to African-American. The terms aren't quite synonymous. In any case the move to sentence case is obligatory. Red Slash 00:05, 9 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Tenuous support. Red Slash, why are they not synonymous? Btw, I'm genuinely asking not being sarcastic :) Zarcadia (talk) 03:07, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Ooh, difficult question. Difficult. Some people dislike one term or the other. For instance, if you were black and your family had lived in Jamaica for a couple hundred years, and then you moved to the USA and became a citizen, you would definitely be a black American... but would you really be "African-American"? I mean, definitely your roots originally were from Africa, but heck, don't they say that everyone's roots were? So it's not synonymous. (Apart from tricky things like Americans descended from Moroccans, who are definitely of African descent but maybe not black.) Glad you asked, Zarcadia. Red Slash 07:38, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Charlize Theron and Hoda Kotb are technically African Americans but are not particularly black. —  AjaxSmack  02:10, 10 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Support. The main article is at African American, the proposed title reads better, and "African American" is often used as an equivalent for "black" in the U.S. whether it is technically the same or not.  —  AjaxSmack   03:16, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment. No particular opinion on BA vs AA, although AA is more politically correct, and I believe more common. Strong support for removing unnecessary capitalization from Upper/Middle Class. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 19:04, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment - why have you proposed putting a hyphen in "African-American"? The article on the subject does not have one: African American. Thanks &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 18:34, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
 * African American, as in "He is an African American," is a noun phrase. African-American [Noun], on the other hand, is a compound adjective. Marcus Qwertyus (talk) 18:25, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Move discussion in progress
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